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Ocelot in MGSV is so god damn boring.
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Jawmuncher
Member
Yeah Oceleot was just kind of there to remind you that it's a Metal Gear game. Was a shame that he didn't do all that much. At least Miller was cool with all his angst.
Spring-Loaded
Member
The Soviet soldier
the_batman
Banned
well he did
groom Venom Snake to be a doppelganger of Big Boss
brandonh83
Banned
Like many things about this game, he was just utterly boring and soulless. Hardly anything felt "right" in the grand scheme of the MGS franchise and what you're saying I think can be applied to so many other elements. Ocelot is boring, Miller is boring (and an all around terrible character), and Snake is just... nothing. It completely lacked the personalities and quirk of everything about the series.
That was all before the game.
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
Yeah. It's pretty amazing that they managed to take such an interesting character from MGS3 and make him worthless. That fucking game...
Jawmuncher
Member
Miller was the best. It made sense for him to be an asshole the entire game.
Guess I just like my jerk characters.
the_batman
Banned
Kojima never should've went open world ;_;
SoulUnison
Banned
*Snake see a helicopter for the 500th time*
"Boss, that's an enemy gunship!"
They couldn't even bother to record more than one line for that?
So many of the characters seemed to be condescending to me/Venom over the entire course of the game because they didn't have any lines beyond the "This is the first time you've encountered this" version.
It's like the VA equivalent of Zelda reminding you what something is every time you pick it up.
"Boss, that's an enemy gunship!"
They couldn't even bother to record more than one line for that?
So many of the characters seemed to be condescending to me/Venom over the entire course of the game because they didn't have any lines beyond the "This is the first time you've encountered this" version.
It's like the VA equivalent of Zelda reminding you what something is every time you pick it up.
Also, is MGSV like, the third time in the series that Ocelot has "hypnotized" himself? What were they *thinking* trying to pull that shit again?
KyanMehwulfe
Member
Good. You captured it alive.
Gerugamesh
Neo Member
Miller won me over in the cassette tapes. He's at his best in those.
zswordsman
Member
I was really looking forward to him, especially after MGS3. Heck I thought we could have at least had some missions where him and venom team up but nope :/
Evolved1
make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
Only character with an actual arc was Quiet.
Kind of amazing when you think about it. Only character worth a shit was the one ridiculed for their appearance and barely muttered a sound in a game overflowing with near-endless exposition. And yet she was the only character that had development that actually lead somewhere.
What a weird fuckin game.
Kind of amazing when you think about it. Only character worth a shit was the one ridiculed for their appearance and barely muttered a sound in a game overflowing with near-endless exposition. And yet she was the only character that had development that actually lead somewhere.
What a weird fuckin game.
RustyNails
Member
I think it comes together in that final...revelation chapter and shows us why Kaz and Ocelot differed on Big Boss. Would have been cool to go into missions with him.
Jawmuncher
Member
"Stay low so you won't be spotted"
Yep he definitely came through in those. You can't say Kaz was boring after hearing about his Burgers.
matrix-cat
Member
The enemy sniper...
RustyNails
Member
The ones where he makes code talker taste his burgers was the best shit.
brandonh83
Banned
It made sense considering the direction of the game/story overall but that was my problem, it didn't have the soul or charm of the earlier games. People often criticize the series of being stupid and wacky, but MGSV was stupid and wacky without the bells and whistles that actually made it enjoyable in the past. It's always been a ridiculous series, but highly memorable and fun; it felt like there was a method to the madness up until Peace Walker and this game, and hell, even Peace Walker by comparison had more of what I like about the series. It was like they tried to make it more dark and "grounded" but... didn't. When you do a story like this you have to strike a certain tone and the previous games did so with their chin held high.
matrix-cat
Member
It's something of an ancestor to the traditional carrot
Zombie James
Banned
Are you sure he's boring? Check your iDroid.
SolidChamp
Banned
Totally agree.
Spring-Loaded
Member
The Soviet raven
Astral Dog
Member
The discussion of MGS V plot was a few months ago.
Perfection.
matrix-cat
Member
Revolver "Sharashka "Shalashaska" Shashka" Ocelot
KyanMehwulfe
Member
Worse was that he doesn't even look or sound like Snake Eater Ocelot.
The power of reverse hypnosis: Venom Ocelot.
Thankfully, Vengeful Kaz is god tier in V.
The power of reverse hypnosis: Venom Ocelot.
Thankfully, Vengeful Kaz is god tier in V.
SoulUnison
Banned
"Guys, this game is almost 6 months old! We don't talk about games that elderly!"
*goes to post in a Bloodbourne thread*
CreeperBlocks
Banned
"There are wolves in that area"
Maybe he's boring because he
? Is that a possibility?
Maybe he's boring because he
hypnotized himself.
It felt weird going from a series where each game had so many layers and depth to this empty production.
The whole game you are chasing a Phantom. Literally.
You were trying to find a story to decipher. Instead you got mission after mission for our against shell corporations.
Then there was about 5 missions of actual story, it was short and sort of lame.
The end.
No twins, no memes, no wills.
The whole game you are chasing a Phantom. Literally.
You were trying to find a story to decipher. Instead you got mission after mission for our against shell corporations.
Then there was about 5 missions of actual story, it was short and sort of lame.
The end.
No twins, no memes, no wills.
Strangelove77
Member
A real waste of Troy Baker. The character just never lived up to who he's been in the previous games, mostly do to lack of...that character. Dude's not around a lot.
Same could be said of everyone but maybe Quiet. All the actors did a good job, even Kiefer, they just didn't have anything interesting to say.
As it is the game's story is more of a cameo fest. It's all your favorites...not doing shit.
Same could be said of everyone but maybe Quiet. All the actors did a good job, even Kiefer, they just didn't have anything interesting to say.
As it is the game's story is more of a cameo fest. It's all your favorites...not doing shit.
the_batman
Banned
lol it's true,
didn't he hypnotize himself to believe Venom was actually Big Jefe?
shit.. maybe Konami had a point about Kojima wasting too much money..
brandonh83
Banned
Hell, what was the point of Sutherland even?
GekigangerV
Member
Not only is he and the whole support team rather dull, but there is ZERO transition from Josh Keaton Adamska to Zimmerman's Revolver Ocelot. Neither in voice or personality.
KyanMehwulfe
Member
jabberwocker
Banned
brandonh83
Banned
Okay Kiefer. Say "Cipher" and the word "the." Now grunt a few times. Okay go home. Here's a few million. At least we can market this a little.
Jawmuncher
Member
I can see where you're coming from. I actually kind of liked the grounded approached it took. But I agree it still needed some more trademark MGS charm to it story wise.
