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Now that was a good fucking twist. I wonder if Twitch themselves put out the rumor that Google was acquiring them?
The other option is to overturn it in the House or Senate, and the MPAA and RIAA have a lot more friends there than in the courts. It would be even more expensive to fight it there. Google, it should be noted, has won every case filed against it regarding the DMCA, so I'm certain they're no stranger to it and I don't think they're greatly pleased to be getting attacked by companies like Viacom on what is clearly shaky legal grounds.I want to agree with you in principle, but I think you're underestimating the costs and overestimating the chance of a favorable outcome.
It would be an expensive fight,
but one they could certainly win
yeah there's an Amazon center around here, and my friend Daiquan worked there. They had like a bell that went off if you were away from your station for even more than like 2 minutes, they were paid like shit, and they dog you hard if you don't reach your quotas, even though they seemed to love raising the quotas to ever more impossible heights.
It's like the epitome of a dead end job that makes one empty inside. I mean if you need a job there's no shame in it, you gotta get paid somehow. But Amazon should have an obligation to treat their employees with some shred of dignity, and they simply don't. I don't care, raise the Amazon.com prices if you need to. But treat your employees better Amazon.
You and I both know that these companies exist in a symbiotic relationship and while the relationship might change, there's no way a company like Vevo is going to cut contracts with Google, given how much money they make regardless of whether or not the legislation stays in place.No its not..... Neverminding the fact that if they took that shot and did actually lose the case, not only would the expense itself be tremendous, but the companies would immediately cut ties with them for trying to shatter their income streams. Vevo and every music/media company that Google has contracts with for everything from the Play Store to Youtube, to Play Music with their subscription music service would be in shambles as the companies they just tried to shank would end their contracts with them as soon as possible.
I think you have a fairly fairy tale view of how much independence companies have whose revenue streams depend on large companies like Google.The lack of all that content would bleed into their other businesses damaging their Android ecosystem and more. Its a tremendous risk that absolutely no one has taken because the stakes are sky high and theres no reasonable assurance of victory at all.
As someone that currently works at an Amazon Fulfillment center, pretty much everything you just said is false.
But that's just from my personal experience, I suppose. Perhaps it's also due to the fact that the center I work at is brand new.
You and I both know that these companies exist in a symbiotic relationship and while the relationship might change, there's no way a company like Vevo is going to cut contracts with Google, given how much money they make regardless of whether or not the legislation stays in place.
I think you have a fairly fairy tale view of how much independence companies have whose revenue streams depend on large companies like Google.
No my friend, my view is based on reality because I like to follow these things.
To the bolded:
Vevo In Talks With Facebook, May Leave YouTube (Report)
http://www.billboard.com/biz/articl...-talks-with-facebook-may-leave-youtube-report
Google was lucky to keep VEVO in the first place the last time renew talks were up. You don't seem to understand at all. They do something like this and lose, VEVO and many others walk.... period.
I assume Vevo likes money and will continue to go where the money is.What may work against Facebook's bid is the profitable pertnership Vevo and Google have established. A Dec. Billboard.biz article on Vevo's success since its December 2009 launch, noted that $100 million had been paid to content owners over two years and that 600 advertisers ranging from American Express to Vitamin Water had signed on. The video platform also has plans to expand its original programming as well as its television, mobile and international presence in 2012.
I assume Vevo likes money and will continue to go where the money is.
You're now changing the argument, but I agree that in order for a company to remain competitive they need to be looking at many revenue-generating options. They also need to be aggressive about their rates in order to assure good margins. This just seems like good business practice to me and is unrelated to the DMCA.You also assume its a case they can easily win. Sorry, far to many assumptions not enough concrete. VEVO can make money wherever they go, people are going to want to watch music videos, and Facebook would love to eat into Googles slice of the pie. These are the reasons these companies are going to court like you are suggesting. Its nowhere near as black and white as you were painting it.
If VEVO wasn't considering moving they wouldnt have been looking or demanding google lower their rates in order for them to stay with YT.
They paid 970$ Millions. Less than what was rumored from Google.
Wait, in cash? Huh.
I'd be interested in seeing what $970M in cash looks like.
Lol. I picture dump trucks full of pennies en route as we speak.Wait, in cash? Huh.
Cautiously optimistic. One one hand Amazon doesn't utilize the BS content-ID. On another, the smaller streamers will still be fucked. Here's to hoping they upgrade their infrastructure and bring up the quality and down the delay.
If they were in fact getting bigger and bigger, they could have simply fought the DMCA in court. It certainly doesn't seem like there's a company big enough anymore that would fight the ridiculous copyright law.
I think there's way too much passivity regarding this. Much like many other laws, there's no way the DMCA is a reasonable law, but since it's never gone to the supreme court, everyone just keeps twiddling their thumbs about it, running from it rather than facing it, even when they have the power to do so (and winning the case would be a landmark for better protections against false claimants, as well as saving an extraordinary amount of money in fees).
howcome it takes so long, considering its on kindle fire?
isn't amazon trying to get into gaming hardware? does that mean in the future they could restrict twitch streaming to only their platform?
also, there are streamers talking about recent changes to twitch like copyright claims and stuff, being done because of google. but google hadn't acquired them yet, any truth to that?
isn't amazon trying to get into gaming hardware? does that mean in the future they could restrict twitch streaming to only their platform?
also, there are streamers talking about recent changes to twitch like copyright claims and stuff, being done because of google. but google hadn't acquired them yet, any truth to that?
isn't amazon trying to get into gaming hardware? does that mean in the future they could restrict twitch streaming to only their platform?
also, there are streamers talking about recent changes to twitch like copyright claims and stuff, being done because of google. but google hadn't acquired them yet, any truth to that?
Consoles are probably safe but I doubt it's going to be on the other set-top boxes. Apple TV, Roku, and Chromecast are probably never going to get Twitch now as long as Amazon is still pushing Fire TV.
Damn this industry is impossible to read at times
Not really. Each want you to get ingrained into their ecosystem.
Of course. The thing is, it's easy to say in hindsight that Amazon should follow up on the purchase, but I've never heard one person before now say "Amazon will buy them." in a serious manner. Who here genuinely predicted that?Not really. Each want you to get ingrained into their ecosystem.
You just argued the opposite point in response to my post...
Of course. The thing is, it's easy to say in hindsight that Amazon should follow up on the purchase, but I've never heard one person before now say "Amazon will buy them." in a serious manner. Who here genuinely predicted that?
Do Prime subscribers benefit from this?