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CelticFC#1

Free Scotland in 2008
Just popping in to say Nakamura is the fucking BOMB!

Easily the most talented player in Scotland at the minute, and he was so close with one of his trademark free-kicks yesterday, picked up Man Of The Match in what was a fine debut.

Can't wait for the 20th, a Naka Special into the Broomloan, last minute, 3-2 to the Celts, 8,000 Hoops going crazy. :D
 

Mama Smurf

My penis is still intact.
Yeah, I'm pretty great.

I didn't even mean to check the score until I could see the highlights tonight, but I fell asleep for a couple hours, woke up a few minutes ago and immediately checked the football news like the whore I am. It's automatic, my mind didn't even register the idea there could be any reason not to.

Oh well, I don't know who scored the Arsenal goal so there's still something to surprise me.
 

Mama Smurf

My penis is still intact.
Seen the highlights now. Can't say I can judge the game fully from 30 minutes, but there didn't seem to be that much between the teams. Few things though.

Del Horno didn't seem very impressive. A few mistimed tackles, going to the ground too easily allowing acres of room behind him if he misses the ball...pretty much the reasons I fault Bridge. Hopefully that was just a bad game or only his bad moments were shown in the highlights or whatever, otherwise...well, much as he hates the position and it causes Chelsea problems attacking down the left, I'd play Gallas there still and Carvalho in the centre. Especially against strong attacking teams.

I didn't get to see much of Crespo or Wright-Phillips, but on the Arsenal side Hleb seemed quite promising. Got involved well, seemed to click at how to link up, unlike someone like Reyes who's just never seemed to get how Arsenal play. I still think it's a good little central midfield Arsenal have got and remain confused by all the talk of having to bring in someone like Jenas to replace Vieira. If they had Chelsea's money then sure, but it's better spent elsewhere. You've got Gilberto Silva and Flamini on the defensive side, Hleb and Fabregas on the attacking creative side. Just pair them up depending on the opposition.

Oh and it looks like Chelsea aren't going to get Essien. Not this summer anyway. I doubt they're too concerned, what Lyon wanted was ridiculous and, unless Real Madrid go in for him (and probably not even then), Chelsea's offer is unlikely to even be matched by any other club, let alone beaten. So now Lyon are left with a player who doesn't want to play for them, no doubt causing unrest in the squad and amongst the supporters, who they know they're going to lose eventually. They can't wait for the three years of his contract to be up, he'll leave for free. Likewise they can't wait two years, with only one year left they're going to end up with offers considerably less than Chelsea's current one, as no team's going to bother paying through their teeth for a player they can pick up for nothing in a year's time.

So really, they're going to have to sell him next summer or the January after that. Is Essien that good? Is he really worth that one, maybe one and a half years of extra time you have him, where he's not even at his best as he doesn't want to be there? Is the stress of the situation on the players, the manager, the club as a whole worth it to keep him? This is £21m AND Tiago we're talking here. You've got a player to fill the gap, perhaps not as good but still talented, and a shitload of money to improve the team in any way you want.

I just think it's a crazy situation. As I understand it, great as he is Lyon would probably win Ligue 1 without him anyway.

EDIT: The only thing I can think is the Lyon president believes he can convince him to sign a new contract. Can't really see how though. French football is decent, but it's what...the fifth league in Europe? Maybe sixth, I don't know, it's between them and Holland. He's already won two titles there and been named player of the year, he's not going to stay to achieve something new as I doubt they could seriously challenge for the Champions League (though who knows nowadays, it's been fucking crazy these last two years. Not consistently anyway). He's also from Ghana, so there's not likely to be much success at international level to look forward to. He's ambitious and talented, and that means he's going to want to head to one of the big clubs in Europe, almost certainly in England, Spain or Italy (probably only Bayern Munich could appeal to him from elsewhere). If he's interested in the money side of things, Lyon won't be able to match the biggest teams in those leagues, and they wouldn't even come close to Chelsea.

So why the fuck would he stay?
 

Shinobi

Member
Solid said:
and nice prediction again mama smurf.

WTF...I predicted it too!

Chelsea's defense is just incredible...Arsenal couldn't get anything going in the last third of the pitch. Seemed like there was an extra blue shirt there at all times, filling up any space the Gunners could've used. Yet when the blues got on the break, they always seemed to be at least even with Arsenal, or even had an advantage. Technically speaking they're just an incredible team. With all that said, Arsenal wasn't outplayed by any means...the first goal allowed was just pure skill, while the second could've been played a bit better by the defense (it was a bit unlucky as well). Still, credit to Chelsea...Drogba too for that matter, who's looked pretty good to me in the preseason.
 

Solid

Member
sorry shinobi ;P

yeah drogba played great. i'm a little surprised, that's not too often! robben can also do much better. he didnt get that space. arsenal did well to get him out of the game.
 

Ghost

Chili Con Carnage!
Knowing how dumb Rio is, he's probably in mountains of debt. Spent most of his 9 months off in a casino or something equally retarded.
 

Mama Smurf

My penis is still intact.
psycho_snake said:
you beat me to it=P

He couldnt have timed it better, although its taken him a while to realise that 110K per week is a good wage. What exactly does he need all that money for? he must be looking at very overpriced clothing

It's the best wage in the Premiership. John Terry's on £90,000 a week, Gerrard's on £100,000 and I believe there's a few other players up there with them. And those aren't old contracts, they're pretty new. So god knows what made Rio think he should earn more than them.

I don't get it either. If he'd just accepted the inital £100,000 a week offer, that's £5.2 million a year. £120,000 a week is £6.24 million. I mean honestly, we're not talking an increase of double, can you really buy that much more for £6.24 million than you can with £5.2 million?

Oh well, I guess it doesn't matter. Well, not to me, but United fans can thank him for that £4 million he's just cost you over the next 4 years, as if you weren't in enough financial shit as it is. Have fun!
 

psycho_snake

I went to WAGs boutique and all I got was a sniff
Mama Smurf said:
It's the best wage in the Premiership. John Terry's on £90,000 a week, Gerrard's on £100,000 and I believe there's a few other players up there with them. And those aren't old contracts, they're pretty new. So god knows what made Rio think he should earn more than them.

I don't get it either. If he'd just accepted the inital £100,000 a week offer, that's £5.2 million a year. £120,000 a week is £6.24 million. I mean honestly, we're not talking an increase of double, can you really buy that much more for £6.24 million than you can with £5.2 million?

Oh well, I guess it doesn't matter. Well, not to me, but United fans can thank him for that £4 million he's just cost you over the next 4 years, as if you weren't in enough financial shit as it is. Have fun!
I hate talking about football players wages, I mean, they're getting paid to play football and they get paid in one week what we get paid in 2 years!

Having Rio Ferdiand signing his contract is better then saving £4 million a year. He's a very good defender who is incredibly composed and he is someone who we need. Without Rio, we would be stuck with Silvestre and Brown, which is the equivelent of putting a dead donkey on the pitch. Now all we need to do to win the premiership is to put Rooney down the middle and buy Ballack and the latter is more likely to happen.
 

Mama Smurf

My penis is still intact.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/4134192.stm

The 55-man shortlist for the inaugural FIFPro World XI Player Awards at Wembley on 19 September is headed by 19 Premiership players.

Ballot forms were sent to 38,000 players asking them to pick a world XI for the event, which has been organised by the international players' union.

Shortlist for the FIFPro World XI Player Awards.

Goalkeepers: Gianluigi Buffon (Italy/ Juventus), Iker Casillas (Spain/ Real Madrid), Petr Cech (Czech Republic/ Chelsea), Nelson Dida (Brazil/ AC Milan), Oliver Kahn (Germany/ Bayern Munich).

Defenders: Alex (Brazil/ PSV), Roberto Ayala (Argentina/ Valencia), Cafu (Brazil/ AC Milan), Sol Campbell (England/ Arsenal), Fabio Cannavaro (Italy/ Juventus), Roberto Carlos (Brazil/ Real Madrid), Ricardo Carvalho (Portugal/Chelsea), Ashley Cole (England/ Arsenal), Rio Ferdinand (England/ Man Utd), Gabriel Heinze (Argentina/ Man Utd), Lucio (Brazil/ Bayern Munich), Paolo Maldini (Italy/ AC Milan), Alessandro Nesta (Italy/ AC Milan), Carlos Puyol (Spain/ Barcelona), Walter Samuel (Argentina/ Inter Milan), Jaap Stam (Holland/ AC Milan), John Terry (England/ Chelsea), Lilian Thuram (France/ Juventus), Gianluca Zambrotta (Italy/ Juventus), Javier Zanetti (Argentina/ Inter Milan).

Midfielders: Michael Ballack (Germany/ Bayern Munich), David Beckham (England/ Real Madrid), Joe Cole (England/ Chelsea), Deco (Portugal/ Barcelona), Luis Figo (Portugal/ Inter Milan), Gennaro Gattuso (Italy/ AC Milan), Steven Gerrard (England/ Liverpool), Kaka (Brazil/ AC Milan), Frank Lampard (England/ Chelsea), Claude Makelele (France/ Chelsea), Pavel Nedved (Czech Republic/ Juventus), Andrea Pirlo (Italy/ AC Milan), Arjen Robben (Holland/ Chelsea), Ronaldinho (Brazil/ Barcelona), Cristiano Ronaldo (Portugal/ Man Utd), Paul Scholes(England/ Man Utd), Mark van Bommel (Holland/ Barcelona), Patrick Vieira (France/ Juventus), Xavi (Spain/ Barcelona), Zinedine Zidane (France/ Real Madrid).

Forwards: Adriano (Brazil/ Inter Milan), Hernan Crespo (Argentina/ Chelsea), Didier Drogba (Ivory Coast/ Chelsea), Samuel Eto'o (Cameroon/ Barcelona), Thierry Henry (France/ Arsenal), Zlatan Ibrahimovic (Sweden/ Juventus), Ronaldo (Brazil/ Real Madrid), Wayne Rooney (England/ Man Utd), Andriy Shevchenko (Ukraine/ AC Milan), Ruud van Nistelrooy (Holland/ Man Utd).

Now I'm not one to judge most of the players outside of the Premiership, so I'll leave them alone for the most part. The following are strange:

Sol Campbell (England/ Arsenal) - Great player, but last season? I know he was injured so it's not his fault, but he didn't even play half of Arsenal's games last year.

Walter Samuel (Argentina/ Inter Milan) - WTF why is he rated so highly!

David Beckham (England/ Real Madrid) - He played fine for England, but I didn't get to see him much for Real. From what I hear, he only did ok. May be wrong on this one though.

Paul Scholes(England/ Man Utd) - He actually got a good number of goals last year, but I seem to remember he had a really good spell briefly. Apart from that, it was a very average season, nowhere near what he once was.

Didier Drogba (Ivory Coast/ Chelsea) - Did alright, but people aren't even sure he should be in the Chelsea team, let alone a world squad.

Ruud van Nistelrooy (Holland/ Man Utd) - Last season? Come on!

As for players not there...I imagine Duff wouldn't be happy that Cole got in ahead of him. I think Cole deserved to be ahead of him, but it's not what you want to see when you're supposedly ahead of him in the pecking order and played more games. Then there's Gallas who'd be thinking the same thing about Carvalho (though they both deserve to be there, poor Gallas) and Ferreira, who should just be there. If there's a better right back around today, I haven't seen him.

Pires has been screwed too. I mean, he only outscored every player in the Premiership except Henry (alright, not Johnson but dammit you don't count if you get 11 penalties!), and from midfield at that. That maybe deserves a place!

Of course, the truly screwed are the entire rest of the world who apparently don't contain a single player good enough for a world squad.
 

CelticFC#1

Free Scotland in 2008
That list really sucks so much balls.

Also, where's Forlan and Riquelme?

Nothing more than a popularity contest.
 

Solid

Member
where is gallas? i get real sad when people always forget him. he always plays good, never has a bad game. if it were up to me i'd rather see him on that list than carvalho.
 

Mama Smurf

My penis is still intact.
I reall need to see Ibrahimovic play more. You post these great goals every so often (well, I assume they've all been from you), but in the...probably 5 ish times I've seen an entire match, he hasn't impressed me at all.

Well, that's not true, he's clearly a good player, I just haven't seen anything from those games that pushes him ahead of most forwards at big teams.

It's probably just bad luck.
 

Mama Smurf

My penis is still intact.
Poor Everton. They played so well (until the last 15 minutes when it was pretty flat all round), completely outplaying Villareal for large parts of the game. But that's football, you take your chances when they come or you could be punished. Still, they're hardly out of it, but knowing you need to go to Spain and score at least 2 goals is tough.

Phil Neville did fantastic, Everton fans must be well chuffed/relieved. I've always liked him in midfield, even if most United fans who mention him do so in disgust.

United through pretty much though that's no surprise. What the fuck is up with Old Trafford's pitch? The season's only just started but it looked horrible. Goodison Park was beautifully smooth, Old Trafford was all mottled and the ball was bobbling. I don't think the Glazers are going to turn a proft firing the groundsman.
 

Solid

Member
09/08/2005
Man. United 3-0 Debrecen
Everton 1-2 Villarreal
Wisla 3-1 Panathinaikos
Anorthosis 1-2 Rangers
Vålerenga 1-0 Club Brugge

yay! villarreal is half-way through! :D
 
Mama Smurf said:
United through pretty much though that's no surprise. What the fuck is up with Old Trafford's pitch? The season's only just started but it looked horrible. Goodison Park was beautifully smooth, Old Trafford was all mottled and the ball was bobbling. I don't think the Glazers are going to turn a proft firing the groundsman.
I bet if they had lost you wouldn't even have brought up the pitch conditions. ;)
 

Mama Smurf

My penis is still intact.
Spellbound said:
I bet if they had lost you wouldn't even have brought up the pitch conditions. ;)

...what? I don't even know what that means. Do you think I'm saying United only won because of a bobbly pitch? That's the only way I can make it make sense, but why would I be saying something so stupid?
 
Mama Smurf said:
...what? I don't even know what that means. Do you think I'm saying United only won because of a bobbly pitch? That's the only way I can make it make sense, but why would I be saying something so stupid?
Well I was semi kidding, and what I was saying was that after Man U had won 3 nil and looked pretty damn good doing it all you could comment on was the pitch condition(something negative)...your not unlike most people.
:)
 

Mama Smurf

My penis is still intact.
Well I barely saw them, I was flicking over from the Everton match every so often.

Besides, it's the curse of a good team, especially one that's been near the top as long as United, to have people focus on their negatives. Take it as a compliment, it just means we're so used to seeing good things that negative things stand out.
 
Spellbound said:
Well I was semi kidding, and what I was saying was that after Man U had won 3 nil and looked pretty damn good doing it all you could comment on was the pitch condition(something negative)...your not unlike most people.
:)

ManYoo supporters playing the victim, not terribly convincing.
 
despite us winning 3-0 I am slightly concerned about how many chances we missed.

I don't really want a repeat of last season kthxbye
 

Mama Smurf

My penis is still intact.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/4715559.stm

John Collins doesn't think much of Essien.

I really don't know about him, I can't recall ever having sen him play. Has anyone here? What did you think of him?

Not that John Collins is helping his case with comments like this:

But for me, it would be a bit of a strange signing if he went to Chelsea.

Not only because Essien would cost so much money, but also because he is not quite a holding player in the mould of Makelele.

Neither is he as good as Lampard in getting forward and scoring goals. Added to that, I couldn't see Jose Mourinho deploying him on the right of midfield now that Shaun Wright-Phillips has signed.

I don't think he gets it. That's exactly what Chelsea are after, a player in between the Lampard/Makelele role. That's why they wanted Gerrard so bad, he can defend well when needed, far better than Lampard can though not on a Makelele level, and he can attack too, though it's debatable as to whether he's not as good as Lampard there or not.

That's the problem Chelsea face at the moment. If Gudjohnsen is playing in midfield along with Lampard and Makelele, as Mourihno seems to favour, all of a sudden he becomes the most attacking midfielder rather then Lampard. So if they're pushed back by any team, Lampard has to take over the defensive duties. He's competent in the regard, but it's really a waste of his talents.

Now with a player like Gerrard or Essien, Lampard no longer has this problem. If need be, those two will defend. if it opens up more, they'll attack. It would take the sort of pressure we saw from Barcelona against Chelsea last season to force Lampard to mainly defend if they had one of those players alongside him, and that's hardly ever going to happen.

Anyway, while I don't know if Essien is the right man, Collins reasoning for him not being the right type of player strikes me as completely wrong.

EDIT: And I have no idea why he's brought up the right side of midfield at all. I guess because Essien can play there? I hadn't realised that if that's the case, but obviously that's not why Chelsea are looking at him. They're WELL covered on the wings.
 

Solid

Member
i have never seen essien play, but everyone talks about him as his something of a super player. i'd like to see him in the squad. but chelsea needs to sell geremi. he will never play, i dunno why he didnt leave during the summer. if essien comes he will play less than he did last year (and that was not much!).

and essien > tiago... i think. so he will be the second choice if gudjohnsen or lampard cant play.

btw this affair is hilarious to follow. this aloua guy at lyon is comedy gold. he's even more arrogant than mourinho! :lol
 

Mama Smurf

My penis is still intact.
Yes, Tiago is quite similar to the sort of player I was describing. When he plays ahead of Gudjohnsen, it really does free up Lampard more when Chelsea are defending. He's just not good enough to make the place his own.

I assume if Essien does come over then Gudjohnsen will go back into an attacking role. That'd be better for Chelsea really, not that he did bad in midfield, just that in terms of numbers at least, they're not overflowing with strikers.

I feel sorry for Geremi. He did want to go a bit back when Middlesbrough wanted to take him back, but Mourinho wouldn't let him go. He can't have wanted to go that badly though or I think they'd have sold him.

Selling Parker (he must have really wanted to go, either that or Mourinho didn't rate him at all, he was the obvious man to step in if Makelele got injured or suspended) and loaning out Smertin obviously didn't help. But with Lampard, Makelele, Gudjohnsen, Tiago, Jarosik, possibly Diarra and maybe even Joe Cole (he could play central midfield no problem, I'm sure he used to play there for West Ham) ahead of him, how's he going to get a game?

To be honest, I think Mourinho has kept him as right back cover more than anything else. He doesn't seem to have much faith in Johnson (and I can't say I do either though I sure as hell wouldn't have tried Huth out there), so if Ferreira gets injured/suspended or has to play left back I think he wants some options.
 

Mama Smurf

My penis is still intact.
Alright, the Premiership's only a few days off, so predictions time. It's tough as the transfer market is still open for 3 weeks, but I'd just feel like I'm cheating waiting to see early Premiership games.

1st - Chelsea Why bother to explain why Chelsea will win the league when I can just...

Cech, Ferreira, Terry, Gallas, Del Horno, Wright-Phillips, Makelele, Lampard, Gudjohnsen, Robben, Crespo

Cudicini, Johnson, Carvalho, Huth, Bridge, Cole, Tiago, Jarosik, Geremi/Diarra/Essien, Duff, Drogba

2nd - Man Utd I don't know why as it can really go either way with players, but I feel sure Van Nistelrooy will regain his form and that'll make a huge difference compared to last year. They've hopefully sorted out their goalkeeping problems, Rio's contract is behind them and Solskjaer's returning. They don't have the cover to compete with Chelsea over a season, and the question mark of the Glazer takeover still hangs over them.

3rd - Arsenal They get third because, despite all I'm about to say, they're still an incredibly strong team and when on their game just electric. However, not only have they not solved their problems from last season, they've gone and created a new one. They've had a horrible time in the transfer market too, only managing to bring in Hleb so far. They've tried; Wright-Phillips, Baptista and Viera (the goalkeeper, failed his medical) immediately come to mind, but they've had no luck. Finally, they desperately need a plan B. Sometimes they're just not on their game or the opposition are stopping them playing how they want, and they just flounder. If they're not going to do it through transfers, they better be working hard on something in traning.

However, if they can stay clear of injuries, not pick up too many suspensions, have players like Toure and Lauren regain their form...they might just surprise me.

4th - Liverpool They've strengthened, no doubt about that, and will probably close the gap on the top 3 slightly, but I just don't think they're good enough to break into it. Despite his record, I find Benitez a bit of a wanker and often wonder if he's the reason his team can't seem to get inspired against lower opposition or away from home and their crowd. No matter what I think of Mourinho, Ferguson and Wenger, they all have a presence about them and I don't doubt they're in charge. Benitez strikes me as...well, a bit of a gimp. They should be strong enough to shake off the chasing pack though.

11th - Blackburn Only doing them because I support them. We were 15th last year so a pretty big jump, but I actually wanted to put us top half and held myself back as it could just be bias. We solved our defensive problems January last year and looked much stronger since, both through signings and Hughes stamping his own ideas on the team as we moved on from Souness. Our problem was goalscoring, as we just couldn't, but we've signed two strikers this off season and hopefully that will have been sorted too.

My only real worry is that with an actual strikeforce now, we might well abandon our formation from last season, which was basically a 4-1-4-1 with Mokoena in the Makelele role. It made us very solid even if we couldn't score, switiching to a 4-4-2 would be risky. I like to think we'll play both, depending on the opposition.

Relegation - It's too hard to put these in actual positions, but I think Sunderland and Wigan will definitely go down. West Ham...despite sneaking in the back door, I just have a feeling they might hang on and survive. If they do, West Brom are the most likely to go down, but I have bad feelings about Portsmouth and Fulham too. I'll go with West Brom, but I wouldn't be surprised if Fulham are right around there in particular.

The Rest - I expect Spurs, Bolton, Everton, Man City, Newcastle and Middlesbrough to be fighting for the UEFA Cup places and 5th spot, and, despite year's of mediocrity, I think Spurs will grab it. I like their signings and manager, the winning mindset is what they need, perhaps Davids can provide it. Man City for the other UEFA Cup spot (there are two right?), despite losing their best player. Hello again to lower midtable for Birmingham, Villa and Charlton.

1 Chelsea
2 Man Utd
3 Arsenal
4 Liverpool
5 Spurs
6 Man City
7-10 Bolton, Middlesbrough, Newcastle, Everton
11 Blackburn
12-14 Birmingham, Villa, Charlton
15-17 West Ham, Portsmouth, Fulham
18-20 West Brom, Sunderland, Wigan

Actually Birmingham seem too low there, but I'm not going back now!
 

Ghost

Chili Con Carnage!
You missed West Ham off the list

12-15 Birmingham, Villa, Charlton

Should be 4 teams there.


Anyway nice predictions, I agree with the top 5. I wish i could agree about the Hammers, being a fan since birth, but having seen them in pre-season, they have NOTHING up front, they struggled to get goals in the championship and havent added anything of worth to the forward line up.

I think West Brom will survive by the skin of their teeth again and send the three promoted clubs back down.
 

Mama Smurf

My penis is still intact.
Oops, thanks.

You're probably right about West Ham. I haven't even seen them play, it was just a feeling I was going on.
 

psycho_snake

I went to WAGs boutique and all I got was a sniff
Very happy with last nights results. Although we stuck with that 4-5-1/4-3-3 formation, we played very well, especially Rooney. he didnt seem to stick on the left wing, he seemed to just drift around the pitch freely and do what he liked. Van Nistelrooy got the all important goal that he needed and hopefully that will do good for him against Everton, speaking of Everton, I wanted top see them lose just so that they are not so confident when we play them, but I still want them to qualify.

United through pretty much though that's no surprise. What the fuck is up with Old Trafford's pitch? The season's only just started but it looked horrible. Goodison Park was beautifully smooth, Old Trafford was all mottled and the ball was bobbling. I don't think the Glazers are going to turn a proft firing the groundsman.
yeah, I thought it was just me. The pitch looked very patchy and oevrall it didnt look good. The Glazers probably fired half of our maintenance staff just so they can stick a couple more grand in their pockets:p.

mama smurf, you're predicition looks right. I would rellly like to say that Manyoo would win and although I have confidence in them, Roman Abramovics Russian Mafia have bought a top quality squad. Unlike United, when they rotate players, their playing quality doesnt drop. If they lose Robben through injury, no problem, just stick Joe Cole or SWP. If Duff needs a rest, they have a winger just as good to replace him. We dont have that sort of quality in our squad. If we lose Scholes, we have Park ji sung or quinton fortune as a replacement and they wont give the same quality.
 

Ghost

Chili Con Carnage!
BTW Mama Smurf

I hope you're right about Blackburn, Ive got money on them to beat us this weekend :D
 

Mama Smurf

My penis is still intact.
Hah, well I have mixed news for you. We played Wolves the season before last opening day and destroyed them 5-1, but last year it was West Brom and we drew 1-1.

I'm not sure why we keep getting newly promoted teams starting with Ws first game, but hopefully we won't complete the treble by losing this one.
 
I refuse to offer my services to this thread as I do not consider its genesis legitimate. Any thread begun in such partisan fashion is neanderthal in its conception. This should have been initiated by a regular.

I will also not prejudice the thread and its outcome as the season is ongoing so any comment would be premature at this time. / mcclellan

Those of you picking ManYoo are overestimating your depth and the effects age will have on the season. You're also overestimating the loss of Vieira to Arsenal. It will matter much more in Europe than it will the Prem. But such nuthanging for Sheep FC is usually par for the course in any footy thread (I'm excepting certain United supporters whom I know are legit).

Wigan, Fulham and Sunderland are down. Baggies barely escape despite Robson's utter incompetence. Fulham were shite last term and then sold/are trying to sell their best players. Not a recipe for success.

Abramovich FC, Arse, 'Pool, ManUSA for the CL. Boro just behind for UEFA as well as Spurs with their 1-8-1 formation and Birmingham to sneak in.

Norwich, Preston and Wolves will be up.

Souness for the sack first followed by Coleman and then Robson.

I will be glad to see the Hammers stay up. I really hope Blackburn and their brand of snorefest kick-the-ankle "football" go down but there's no way; there are just too many worse teams. If Hughes can manage to keep Savage, Todd and Bellamy from having a Bowyer/Dyer-sized punch-up by week 3 he should get manager of the year. Sorry MamaSmurf.

Carry on. May be in Clock End for the Geordies on Sunday.
 

Ryck

Member
brooklyngooner said:
I refuse to offer my services to this thread as I do not consider its genesis legitimate. Any thread begun in such partisan fashion is neanderthal in its conception. This should have been initiated by a regular.

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As I said before go right ahead and make one...you stuck up message board elitist trash... OR (better yet) keep refusing to offer your services.
 
Mama Smurf said:
1 Chelsea
2 Man Utd
3 Arsenal
4 Liverpool
5 Spurs
6 Man City
7-10 Bolton, Middlesbrough, Newcastle, Everton
11 Blackburn
12-14 Birmingham, Villa, Charlton
15-17 West Ham, Portsmouth, Fulham
18-20 West Brom, Sunderland, Wigan

Actually Birmingham seem too low there, but I'm not going back now!
Great predictions how do you see Champions League playing out?
 

Mama Smurf

My penis is still intact.
I have no love for Man Utd, just a realist. In fact I "supported" Arsenal in the FA Cup final as I always like to support someone when watching a match.

While I can understand a dislike for the way Blackburn play, I would hardly call our games snorefests. They're almost always interesting if only because they're so physical, it's teams like...oh I don't know...Charlton that bore me to death.

as well as Spurs with their 1-8-1 formation

This was funny.
 
Mama Smurf said:
While I can understand a dislike for the way Blackburn play, I would hardly call our games snorefests. They're almost always interesting if only because they're so physical, it's teams like...oh I don't know...Charlton that bore me to death.

I was honestly playing. In fairness I think last year's play was out of a sheer mandate to keep them up. I except more open play this year. However I do fucking loathe Robbie Savage and I do wonder how he will keep all those ex-cons content. The boredom of the Charltons of the world is due to having to keep these sides up no matter what, and that, unfortunately, is due to the very wide gulf in finances between the top eight or ten Prem sides and the rest. When I hear Charlton supporters talk about how maybe Curbs should go, I laugh -- for fuck's sake kids he's your savior. If anything he should go somewhere better.

Ryck said:
As I said before go right ahead and make one...you stuck up message board elitist trash... OR (better yet) keep refusing to offer your services.

My response was tongue-in-cheek. That's why I followed it up with a goofy McClellan quote. Sorry if I offended you. You can go back to licking your Rooney poster while sitting in your van Horsetleface replica kit.
 

Mama Smurf

My penis is still intact.
Spellbound said:
Great predictions how do you see Champions League playing out?

Knock out competitions are hard enough to predict normally, but the Champions League has gone crazily recently. Porto and Liverpool? I don't have a clue who'll win, but the usual suspects will be there or there abouts.
 
One thing you can bank on, Arsenal will squeeze through the group stage by barely beating the likes of Fourth In Our Ex-Soviet Republic League FC 3-2 in the final match followed by bowing out in Spain somewhere.

COME ON YOU GUNNERS
 

Shinobi

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Mama Smurf said:
I don't think the Glazers are going to turn a proft firing the groundsman.

:lol




brooklyngooner said:
ManYoo supporters playing the victim, not terribly convincing.

I don't know...they did go TROPHYLESS last year!




brooklyngooner said:
Sorry if I offended you. You can go back to licking your Rooney poster while sitting in your van Horsetleface replica kit.

brooklyngooner said:
One thing you can bank on, Arsenal will squeeze through the group stage by barely beating the likes of Fourth In Our Ex-Soviet Republic League FC 3-2 in the final match followed by bowing out in Spain somewhere.

COME ON YOU GUNNERS

:lol :lol :lol Ah, it's going to be a fun season...





Ryck said:
Oh nice one! What are we 13 or something?

He's an Arsenal fan, you're a Man U fan...why are you surprised? Unless you're the one who's 13. :lol

BTW, anyone like me waiting anxiously for the new roster/option files for WE7/PES4? There should be a few good ones after the transfer window closes.
 
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