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One Piece Manga |OT2| Four Emperors, One King, All Blue

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Lunar15

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She'll probably join luffy's group for Big Mom. Makes sense too, since they'd be following a White Rabbit to an Alice in Wonderland themed arc.
 

Kornflayx

Member
She'll probably join luffy's group for Big Mom. Makes sense too, since they'd be following a White Rabbit to an Alice in Wonderland themed arc.

I think she will sneak in somehow. She said "Oh, that sounds fun" when Luffy said that he wanted to go to Big Mom. It's Oda, he wouldn't have her say that if she doesn't go with him
 

Ray Down

Banned
We got some SBS stuff, best stuff in the Supernova info:
The Supernova's (1) Favorite and (2) Least Favorite foods.
Kidd - (1) Cabbage Rolls (2) Curry Udon
Killer - (1) Peperoncino (2) Curry Udon
Apoo - (1) Tom Yam Soup (2) Mayonnaise
Urouge - (1) Azuki beans, Pork (2) Vegetables (I kinda see why you're the fallen monk)
Hawkins - (1) Fortune Cookies (hah!) (2) Meat
Drake - (1) Chicken Rice (2) Eggs
Law - (1) Onigiri, Grilled fish (2) Bread, Umeboshi
Bege - (1) Meatballs, Tomatoes (2) Tomato juice
Bonney - (1) Pizza (Margherita) (2) Carrots

Luffy hates Hawkins the most confirmed.
 

Kave_Man

come in my shame circle
We got some SBS stuff, best stuff in the Supernova info:
The Supernova's (1) Favorite and (2) Least Favorite foods.
Kidd - (1) Cabbage Rolls (2) Curry Udon
Killer - (1) Peperoncino (2) Curry Udon
Apoo - (1) Tom Yam Soup (2) Mayonnaise
Urouge - (1) Azuki beans, Pork (2) Vegetables (I kinda see why you're the fallen monk)
Hawkins - (1) Fortune Cookies (hah!) (2) Meat
Drake - (1) Chicken Rice (2) Eggs
Law - (1) Onigiri, Grilled fish (2) Bread, Umeboshi
Bege - (1) Meatballs, Tomatoes (2) Tomato juice
Bonney - (1) Pizza (Margherita) (2) Carrots

Luffy hates Hawkins the most confirmed.

Hawkins can never be redeemed now, he's nothing but trash.
 
We got some SBS stuff, best stuff in the Supernova info:
The Supernova's (1) Favorite and (2) Least Favorite foods.
Kidd - (1) Cabbage Rolls (2) Curry Udon
Killer - (1) Peperoncino (2) Curry Udon
Apoo - (1) Tom Yam Soup (2) Mayonnaise
Urouge - (1) Azuki beans, Pork (2) Vegetables (I kinda see why you're the fallen monk)
Hawkins - (1) Fortune Cookies (hah!) (2) Meat
Drake - (1) Chicken Rice (2) Eggs
Law - (1) Onigiri, Grilled fish (2) Bread, Umeboshi
Bege - (1) Meatballs, Tomatoes (2) Tomato juice
Bonney - (1) Pizza (Margherita) (2) Carrots

Luffy hates Hawkins the most confirmed.
Lmao at Hawkins.
 

Ray Down

Banned
This is kinda cool:
Another fan counts the number of times each Strawhat has performed a "tsukkon" (I'm guessing that means "tsukkomi" or "comical reaction to something stupid"). In decreasing order:
Usopp (458 times)
Nami (295 times)
Zoro (263 times)
Sanji (246 times)
Chopper (129 times)
Luffy (112 times)
Franky (92 times)
Robin (16 times)
Brook (15 times)
Extra
Buggy (57 times)
Vivi (40 times)

LOL at the big distance between #1 and #2.
 

SolVanderlyn

Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
Bonney is going to kill Carrot and Luffy is going to beat up Hawkins, you heard it in SBS first
 
This is kinda cool:
Another fan counts the number of times each Strawhat has performed a "tsukkon" (I'm guessing that means "tsukkomi" or "comical reaction to something stupid"). In decreasing order:
Usopp (458 times)
Nami (295 times)
Zoro (263 times)
Sanji (246 times)
Chopper (129 times)
Luffy (112 times)
Franky (92 times)
Robin (16 times)
Brook (15 times)
Extra
Buggy (57 times)
Vivi (40 times)

LOL at the big distance between #1 and #2.
Surprised to see Luffy so low and Robin in the list lol
 

Taborcarn

Member
It was at this moment jack knew....he made poor life choices that week

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They understand that it was a living animal. Seems kind of stupid to constantly shoot it and not realize it might try to defend itself.

"As long as this thing just dies without any retaliation, we should be fine."
 

GhostBed

Member
They understand that it was a living animal. Seems kind of stupid to constantly shoot it and not realize it might try to defend itself.

"As long as this thing just dies without any retaliation, we should be fine."

Jack is really dumb, but unfortunately he has no one there to talk him out of his bad ideas. His crew members are just glorified hype men.

That panel of Ginrummy in chapter 821 makes me think she'll be saving Jack's ass. Thinking Sheepshead is down for the count now, though. Dude had a rough couple of days.
 

Kave_Man

come in my shame circle
Jack is really dumb, but unfortunately he has no one there to talk him out of his bad ideas. His crew members are just glorified hype men.

That panel of Ginrummy in chapter 821 makes me think she'll be saving Jack's ass. Thinking Sheepshead is down for the count now, though. Dude had a rough couple of days.

Yeah makes me think Kaido is probably the only person who keeps him under control.

Bet he probably has the same type of relationship that Zoro and Sanji have with the other calamities.
 
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Jack is really dumb, but unfortunately he has no one there to talk him out of his bad ideas. His crew members are just glorified hype men.

That panel of Ginrummy in chapter 821 makes me think she'll be saving Jack's ass. Thinking Sheepshead is down for the count now, though. Dude had a rough couple of days.
Yeah I wondered about that panel, but it seems as though she's shocked at his statements about torturing Zou. Oda keeps focusing on her, so this seems likely.
Would love to see the fallout if he returns to Wano, because like someone in here posted, Jack hasn't accomplished jack shit for all of his recent efforts. Kaido gonna be mad!
 

smurfx

get some go again
so who do you think weeble finds first? luffy or marco? i kinda want weeble to follow luffy to whole cake island and cause some huge uproar there. maybe his mom works for big mom and big mom forces luffy to fight weeble for entertainment. maybe he doesn't even chase luffy there and weebles mom is invited to the wedding and brings weeble with her. of course after luffy gets caught weeble goes after him.
 
so who do you think weeble finds first? luffy or marco? i kinda want weeble to follow luffy to whole cake island and cause some huge uproar there. maybe his mom works for big mom and big mom forces luffy to fight weeble for entertainment. maybe he doesn't even chase luffy there and weebles mom is invited to the wedding and brings weeble with her. of course after luffy gets caught weeble goes after him.
Kinda want weeble to find Marco now only because now the minks are heading to him as well
 

Veelk

Banned
Since this arc is pretty much over, except for the party, I'll just chime in my bit.

I didn't like it, despite initially thinking I would, for reasons that are mostly repetitious of OP's traditional writing techniques which I don't see a need to repeat. I occasionally lurked in this thread to see what other user's responses were, and I think it show how OP simply doesn't cater to my tastes that what a lot of people praised as awesome, I found really lame. The characters don't feel believable in how they behave (the whole Mink hiding Raizou thing), I loath Raizou's character design (and yes, I know thatsthejoke.jpg), I was disappointed how the Red Polygraph turned out to be nothing but a exposition mechanic (I was hoping it'd reveal something about the void century. Even a little information would be nice).

And while they didn't get to do as much as I'd like in Dressrosa, my favorite characters of Usopp, Zoro, and Robin were the ones who remained in that arc, and now it looks like we're getting Nami, Chopper, and Brook to go rescue Sanji along with Luffy. So, the only straw hats I like even a little are out of the game and I'm just left with...these guys. Great.

And now, it's even suggested that either Kidd got crushed by Kaido and Apoo joined him, or the Kidd-Hawkins-Apoo allience joined with Kaido as a whole. Which if so, is really, really lame because you know how much I like Kidd (not as much as you think, really, but the pool of OP characters I like is slim pickings and he's the closest I find to being likable). I can get the rest of the Supernova's doing their own thing, but Law, Luffy and Kidd were the ones who were established as vying to become Pirate Kings under no one's rule but their own. So Luffy and Law are doing their own thing, but if Kidd's ambitions just got wrecked after being built up, I'm gonna be sad. Kidd makes a good rival to Luffy, I would rather he remain independent or else in an alliance, but not under any Yonko. He can't serve as a real rival to luffy if he's under someone, or else just had his ambitions ruined by Kaido. My hope is that they're about to pull some coup d'etat or some shit.

The only think I like that I'm taking away from this arc is Zou itself, but that's just because I like the concept of giant, living, ancient weapons, and Zou provides that.
 

RomanceDawn

Member
I honestly feel bad for you Veelk. Like maybe you shouldn't be reading One Piece? It's like when I used to torture myself with Sonic games or the Pokemon anime. What you want just isn't there.

Though sometimes I think you look so deep, you look beyond what you were actually looking for. In this arc, it's ancient history, another time it was wondering why Sanji is the only one who utilizes fire in such a way(he's not).
 

GaimeGuy

Volunteer Deputy Campaign Director, Obama for America '16
Since this arc is pretty much over, except for the party, I'll just chime in my bit.

I didn't like it, despite initially thinking I would, for reasons that are mostly repetitious of OP's traditional writing techniques which I don't see a need to repeat. I occasionally lurked in this thread to see what other user's responses were, and I think it show how OP simply doesn't cater to my tastes that what a lot of people praised as awesome, I found really lame. The characters don't feel believable in how they behave (the whole Mink hiding Raizou thing), I loath Raizou's character design (and yes, I know thatsthejoke.jpg), I was disappointed how the Red Polygraph turned out to be nothing but a exposition mechanic (I was hoping it'd reveal something about the void century. Even a little information would be nice).

And while they didn't get to do as much as I'd like in Dressrosa, my favorite characters of Usopp, Zoro, and Robin were the ones who remained in that arc, and now it looks like we're getting Nami, Chopper, and Brook to go rescue Sanji along with Luffy. So, the only straw hats I like even a little are out of the game and I'm just left with...these guys. Great.

And now, it's even suggested that either Kidd got crushed by Kaido and Apoo joined him, or the Kidd-Hawkins-Apoo allience joined with Kaido as a whole. Which if so, is really, really lame because you know how much I like Kidd (not as much as you think, really, but the pool of OP characters I like is slim pickings and he's the closest I find to being likable). I can get the rest of the Supernova's doing their own thing, but Law, Luffy and Kidd were the ones who were established as vying to become Pirate Kings under no one's rule but their own. So Luffy and Law are doing their own thing, but if Kidd's ambitions just got wrecked after being built up, I'm gonna be sad. Kidd makes a good rival to Luffy, I would rather he remain independent or else in an alliance, but not under any Yonko. He can't serve as a real rival to luffy if he's under someone, or else just had his ambitions ruined by Kaido. My hope is that they're about to pull some coup d'etat or some shit.

The only think I like that I'm taking away from this arc is Zou itself, but that's just because I like the concept of giant, living, ancient weapons, and Zou provides that.

Oda doesn't give you a slow trickle of info. He drops bombs. We'll find out about the void century at Raftel
 

Veelk

Banned
I honestly feel bad for you Veelk. Like maybe you shouldn't be reading One Piece? It's like when I used to torture myself with Sonic games or the Pokemon anime. What you want just isn't there.

Though sometimes I think you look so deep, you look beyond what you were actually looking for. In this arc, it's ancient history, another time it was wondering why Sanji is the only one who utilizes fire in such a way(he's not).

That first point has been asked before and the answer is the same. What I enjoy is secondary to what I can learn from stories. I don't need to enjoy a story to find it worth reading. It's as simple as that.

Besides, for every series I don't like, there are two dozen that I do. I read the new chapter and go back to playing bloodborne or reading the new Fairyland or Shadow Ops book, watch an episode of better call Saul, read the new Attack On Titan if it's there, and so on.It's not like I'm wallowing in my own misery by taking 5 minutes a week to keep up on OP. It's not even like how it was when I was rereading the series, where arcs would take hours to complete. It's just a few minutes and done.

As for the other stuff, I have my counter points to that. But I'm done having debates about OP, atleast for the while, since their generally the same points repeated. If I can find something new to talk about or something old in a new way, then I'll being that in. I just wanted to throw in my two cents on this arc.

Oda doesn't give you a slow trickle of info. He drops bombs. We'll find out about the void century at Raftel

Oda does both, I'm pretty sure, especially in his art. But I'm just saying it's one of the few things I'm genuinely interested in about his world, so when it looked like we were getting something like it, I got excited.
 

grandjedi6

Master of the Google Search
I'm betting Jack was reaching Zou because either one of the minks was a traitor or because he secretly had a vivre card on them without their knowledge. And I'm willing to bet that whichever mink it is, they'll be one of the ones to go with Luffy to Big Mom's island (based on the color spread, it's either Carrot or Pedro...). That way Jack will next crash Big Mom's tea party/wedding, which is totally something he would do.
 
We got some SBS stuff, best stuff in the Supernova info:
The Supernova's (1) Favorite and (2) Least Favorite foods.
Kidd - (1) Cabbage Rolls (2) Curry Udon
Killer - (1) Peperoncino (2) Curry Udon
Apoo - (1) Tom Yam Soup (2) Mayonnaise
Urouge - (1) Azuki beans, Pork (2) Vegetables (I kinda see why you're the fallen monk)
Hawkins - (1) Fortune Cookies (hah!) (2) Meat
Drake - (1) Chicken Rice (2) Eggs
Law - (1) Onigiri, Grilled fish (2) Bread, Umeboshi
Bege - (1) Meatballs, Tomatoes (2) Tomato juice
Bonney - (1) Pizza (Margherita) (2) Carrots

Luffy hates Hawkins the most confirmed.


Hawkins confirmed shit and Bonney is my girl
 

Chariot

Member
I'm betting Jack was reaching Zou because either one of the minks was a traitor or because he secretly had a vivre card on them without their knowledge. And I'm willing to bet that whichever mink it is, they'll be one of the ones to go with Luffy to Big Mom's island (based on the color spread, it's either Carrot or Pedro...). That way Jack will next crash Big Mom's tea party/wedding, which is totally something he would do.
That would be interesting and a reason Luffy and Big Mom don't get to fight yet or maybe Luffy even gets saved by Jack randomly crashing in and fucking everyone's shit up. Him being a high ranking guy of Kaidou essentially being a declaration of war and starting the big conflict between the two Emporers. Imagine him poison bombing Big Mom's entire food stash.
 
That would be interesting and a reason Luffy and Big Mom don't get to fight yet or maybe Luffy even gets saved by Jack randomly crashing in and fucking everyone's shit up. Him being a high ranking guy of Kaidou essentially being a declaration of war and starting the big conflict between the two Emporers. Imagine him poison bombing Big Mom's entire food stash.

Maybe it will be a running gag. Jack will crash Big Mom's party and get beaten up by Big Mom.
 

RomanceDawn

Member
it's kinda weird for an mastodon dude get beaten by a giant elephant. I wonder what's up with that.

Nothing weird it's poetic justice! The first attack Jack threw out at the Mink's was a giant swing of his trunk. The first attack that Zunisha through out at Jack was a giant swing of it's trunk. What comes around goes around!
 

Jarate

Banned
So guys, is it basically confirmed that Momonusuke is a D at this stage?

also, Ive got a feeling that Oars used Zou a thousand years abo to move the continents like what has been theorized, and that was why he was being punished by the D's
 

RomanceDawn

Member
]So guys, is it basically confirmed that Momonusuke is a D at this stage?[/B]

also, Ive got a feeling that Oars used Zou a thousand years abo to move the continents like what has been theorized, and that was why he was being punished by the D's

I don't know. I could be wrong but I believe the royals Wano Kingdom were allies of the D's but not the D's themselves.

Interesting connection between Oars and Zou. Any idea why you think Oars had Sunisha moving continents?
 

RomanceDawn

Member
Zunisha is big, but not enough to move continents. At least if we are applying common sense here.

While I don't subscribe to the idea that Zunisha was the one pulling continents, if Oars could do it(assuming his epithet is true), then Zunisha certainly could.
 

Majukun

Member
While I don't subscribe to the idea that Zunisha was the one pulling continents, if Oars could do it(assuming his epithet is true), then Zunisha certainly could.

well,don chinjao too was described as "splitting continents"..but in the end his feat was nowhere as impressive as that
 
So my friend and I just had an interesting discussion. What if Apoo (and maybe Hawkins) were already aligned with Kaido from the start?

If Jack and Apoo had a pre-existing line of communication, then that would been that Apoo would have already been in touch with Jack before he attacked Zou. As we know, Jack was on Zou several days prior to Luffy beating Doflamingo and before the time-skip even began. Therefore, Apoo would have had a line of communication with Jack before his meeting with Kid and Hawkins.

Also, if you think about Hawkins and his probability/fortune-telling voodoo bullshit, maybe that's how Jack was able to locate Zou consistently, making him an accomplice. If you think about it, how did Jack figure out where Doflamingo was post-dresrossa? He always seems to know where to go.

There are several holes in this, which make me skeptical. You could argue that Jack learned about Apoo/Hawkins/Kid after he left Zou from Kaido, since it was a certain amount of days to get from Zou->Doflamingo's escort. Also, Jack could just be using Vivre Cards and has some for people on Zou and Doflamingo himself. Finally, I'm not sure what the point of Apoo and Hawkins trying to form an alliance with Kid would be if they were already with Kaido.

That all being said, if Kid is being held prisoner atm on Wano as opposed to being killed then there may be something going on here we don't know of. The only other connection I can think of is Kid attacking Scotch (underling of Kaido) near the beginning of the time-skip.

Him being in the prison cell is the biggest question though. Why is he being kept alive?
 
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