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|OT| ArcheAge - Queuing Simulator 2014

mkenyon

Banned
You can nab a fishing boat within a few seconds if you do it right, with no chance to respond against the thieves.

When farming, we drive a Merchant Ship and Clipper until we spot a raid on the Radar. When we get fairly close, despawn everything out of sight. Dive to the bottom of the ocean. Split up into 2-3 groups, assign each group a boat (only need about 3ish people to do it right).

Then we sneak to the surface, and shadowstep on the boat (can go from water directly to driver), PBAOE fear, grab the wheel, and take off.

Made ~600G doing this with 8 people in about 2 hours last night. 0 Labor spent.

Damn it feels good to be a gangsta.
 

Repgnar

Member
Running out of options so i'm going to ask here. Friend updated Glyph Monday evening and had no problem logging in to do some harvesting. Ever since Tuesday though she can't log in. She launch Archeage but then hackshield will give an error bringing up the support page. Running Windows 8, tried a number of admin privilege/whitelisting/etc and nothing it working. The Trion support has been garbage for us in the past so we're trying to figure this out on our own. Any ideas?
 
Anyone have some good info/sources on auroria? I really need to start reading up on it since it's out in a few days.

Also any tips for what items will be going up in price a lot (other than raw stone and thunderstrucks)
Got a ton of gold to invest but I'm too clueless about the patch
 

mkenyon

Banned
Anyone have some good info/sources on auroria? I really need to start reading up on it since it's out in a few days.

Also any tips for what items will be going up in price a lot (other than raw stone and thunderstrucks)
Got a ton of gold to invest but I'm too clueless about the patch
I'd imagine we'll be seeing an increase in basic 16x16 plans due to people trying to grab as much land as possible.

The thing about the Auroria expansion is that no one is absolutely certain what is going to be included as none of the lvl 55 content is being released (Library, Diamond Shores). The only thing that is for certain is the four castle areas and Serpentis.

After getting about 500-600 gold in fish from a guild last night, they got super super salty. Then we trapped them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_NS-rQHpAc
 

timkunedo

Member
Well I'm not big on pvp so I think i've seen all pve has to offer in this game. I've got around 500 gold and nothing to really spend it on. Blah...ah well. I'll wait for the next new big mmo to come along.
 
How do you have nothing to spend it on?
A farm cart? 300g or so
Fishing boat, 3000+gold
farm wagon 2000+g
Farmhouse: 500g ish

Or if you craft 500g will let you make 2 illustrious armor pieces



Speaking of crafting, scored pretty hard with the RNG last night.
Someone put an arcane illustrious ocean cloth chest on ah for only 200g for some reason. (240g in mats just to make it, then only 1/4 to be ocean, and a smaller chance to be arcane)
Spent 300g on mats to make it into magnificent, and it was ocean again (score!)
Then another 400g to make it empherium and it was lake (good, though obviously ocean would have been the superjackpot as it would have sold for almost 10k gold after I made it delphinad)
Regraded it twice , both succeeded so now I got a unique epherium lake shirt^^ 900 g investment but it'll sell for about 2500 gold.
Unique epherium gear is crazy good too, 94stamina and 62 int on a chest piece o.0

The ah on our server can be a real treasure trove, someone put up an arcane delphinad lake plate belt for 1000g (which is crazy as the odds of crafting delphinad is only 1/110 when you attempt it)
Regrading it to unique might cost 500-1000g more if I'm really unlucky but even then it's worth at least 2-3x more than that.
Free gold!

Goin into the auroria patch with about 7000-8000 gold worth between the chestpiece and stocked up thunderstrucks (not even counting the delphinad belt) , I'm praying someone will be dumb enough to put up a delphinad staff or bow for under 10k in the next week so I can snag that<.<
 
Mkeynon you're an umuricun right?:p
You guys got the patch already? If so tell me your 20/20 hindsight man.

What do you wish you had done to prepare for patch, what mats/items went up a lot (less obvious ones perhaps or obvious), which one suddenly have a new supply source and are crashing or going to crash?
Did you have trouble grabbing land?

What are glowing prisms selling for on your server right now? What about gilda dust? fire lunarite? Moonlight and sunlight archeum? DId any of these go up or down a lot?
 

StudioTan

Hold on, friend! I'd love to share with you some swell news about the Windows 8 Metro UI! Wait, where are you going?
I can't even log in :/

I don't even want any land on Auroria but I do want to plant more trees before bed.
 

mkenyon

Banned
Mkeynon you're an umuricun right?:p
You guys got the patch already? If so tell me your 20/20 hindsight man.

What do you wish you had done to prepare for patch, what mats/items went up a lot (less obvious ones perhaps or obvious), which one suddenly have a new supply source and are crashing or going to crash?
Did you have trouble grabbing land?

What are glowing prisms selling for on your server right now? What about gilda dust? fire lunarite? Moonlight and sunlight archeum? DId any of these go up or down a lot?
No, def not an "amurican", I actually despise the concept of nationalism in today's age.

The BR guilds get a bad rep because the dudes that run them are fuckwads, and they are so insanely bloated that they are filled with all sorts of trash players that interact poorly with the server because they have a certain tag over their head. Two of the guilds we poke at are US/Canada based, because they suck for all of the same reasons. Our ribbing has no cultural boundaries. However, when you are trying to kick the hornet's nest, you hit it with as much as possible. Hence the culturally insensitive slant.

Over the weekend, they had 2-3 clippers with each fishing raid patrolling because of this. We still made about 2.5K in stolen fish, and took their Hasla spots during peace (dat ping). We also now have probably 20+ informants in those guilds that helped us farm their fish more efficiently.

In terms of being ready for today, we just sat around the land, hoping to grab some mostly to sell. We did get a two 16x16s and an 8x8 with only TWO members on. The rest, including myself, were fucked by the login problem. The main plan is to hit every single boat that comes to auroria with building packs, unpack them, take the loot, and continue on. Then sell them back to the people we stole them from at outrageously inflated prices. Fortunately, our net of informants are aware of this plan and will be feeding us information of where the targets are heading, and which will be the juciest to grab. They all want that gold flow.
 

Won

Member
Sounds like it was another disaster. They didn't even bother to patch EU, because it was so bad on the US servers. Thx for testing America!
 
Welp patch in an hour or two here.

My guild spent almost 10k gold in consumables (enough for 3 hours of fully buffed fighting over the mine with 50 odd people) and convinced 3 of the biggest zerg guilds as well as an allied pk guild to help them defend the mines,so hopefully there'll be at least 1 green castle.

The west outnumber the east on our server, though I've been told they are very divided and 6 of their guilds will be competing with eachother over the mines (instead of our big alliance working together)

The biggest enemy will be the stupid login servers and the game performance and lag in such a zerg:\
 

Valus

Member
Hey guys, I just started this game with some friends. Any newbie tips you can offer? I just hit level 10 and my class is Stone Arrow based on the three options I picked. Is that a good class?

Also, does anyone know how to configure a controller to Archeage? There aren't a crap load of skills it looks like so I think I would enjoy it better that way.
 

mkenyon

Banned
You'll have 18-23+ skills at lvl 50. Definitely not controller friendly.

Yes, Stone Arrow is good.

My main advice would be to make sure you are not looking to the game to provide you with content. This is very much what you make out of it. Get involved in a community and get out in the world.

If you want to speed up your leveling, wait until you have max labor. Drink a Vocation Tonic. Buy stone. Make Hereafter stones. Sell them back on the AH to break even or maybe even a slight profit. That'll give you 2-3 levels in about 5 minutes.
 
Patch day = screenshot and story day
First mansion on the server by The law a few days ago.
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Fishers are allied with EVERYONE, even pirates:
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Thunderstruck tree on my farm yesterday:
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Another one today ^^:
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Today was patch day, we know the reds (nui) outnumber us 3 to one on this server so we decided to work together as a faction and help eachother at the mine/with carrying the packs to the lodestone for protection.

Arrival at the mine <5 mins after the server went up: My screenshots don't show the sheer number of reds as I had to limit maximum players shown onscreen to 100 to prevent it from being a slideshow.
Our alliance had about 200 people there, there were another 200-300 from other guilds, and at least a thousand reds (at one point we had a screenfilling zerg behind, in front and at our flank at the same time inside the mine)

http://abload.de/img/screenshot0058j0u8z.jpg
http://abload.de/img/screenshot00596uuj3.jpg

It looked grim when we arrived as reds were already inside and they had a humongous zerg inside, we managed to wipe most of the ones outside and take control of the entrance but as soon as we went deeper inside we ran into their main force which obliterated us with overwhelming numbers.
At this point we feared we'd not get any castle at all on the east.

We did fully regroup outside before reentering and they got split up after the fight , after about an hour of fighting and pushing into the mine we had finally had full control of it as the reds had become too scattered (never more than 100 or so people coming at us at the same time)

After 2 hours some of the reds started teleporting out, one green guild called eastern coalition that is not part of our alliance teleported out and a whole bunch of the pebbles started showing up on AH (150 of them) right before they left.
At this point we had no idea how many pebbles the reds had managed to get during the rough beginning and we were worried we'd be too late, so we bought all the pebbles, if only to deny them to the other guilds. (about 4000gold, which is only half of what we spent on consumables for the fight over the mines anyhow).
We had our miners give the mined pebbles to one guy who then mailed them all to our smelter who was waiting at his house with the crafting station.

As soon as the mats for the pack were ready our guild (except our miners) teleported to pirate island to take off with the pack, while the other guilds in the alliance stayed behind to keep mining and keep the reds at bay.

5 Minutes later: First castle claimed on the server belongs to us.
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A few minutes later the russian guild (bunch of hackers and cheaters, half of them got banned in the ban wave) got their castle up.

Then our GM gets a whisper from the first green guild that teleported out.
OOPS, they didn't know they needed the 20k vocation badge metalworking boost item on their smelter to craft the ingots. (most guilds did not know this, we assume most of the reds didn't know either seeing how they still didn't have a castle down at this point)
They offered 20k gold to get to use ours, we declined.



Another 15 minutes later we got enough pebbles for a second castle for another big guild in our temporary (literally for one day just for the mining war) alliance and they crafted their pack:
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At this point the reds and non allied green guilds decided they were running out of time and they all left the mines and instead went to guard the paths to the lodestones in numbers hoping to kill another guild for their castle pack.
We escorted the other guild with 2 full raids and formed a circle around their pack carrier (who had to be shitting his pants at this moment because of the threat of being killed by reds/another green guild)
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Took a screenshot of what the pack looks like but the name makes it a bit hard to see.

The fuckup guild (eastern coalition) that wasn't able to craft their pack showed up to try to grab the pack we were protection, so we all turned on bloodlust and wiped them before they could take a coordinated shot at it.
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Success:
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The reds took the fourth castle shortly afterwards.


Never expected the login servers to function but there were no issues and they stayed up.
Never expected to get 3 green castles considering how hard the reds outnumber us.

The eastern coalition was declared war upon immediately by the alliance after the castles were built for trying to pk the pack (and some of them turned on us while mining too)
Their gm is apparently quitting the game over the failed crafting of the pack (no vocation badges on their smelter) and failing to get a castle.
There were large numbers of guildless people around during the evening after everything was said and done. Their guild in particular will probably disband.

Working together really paid off, initially the plan was for our guild+its allies to go alone and the other 3 big guilds to go alone in their alliance but we wouldn't have gotten a single castle that way.
 
The cash shop update just changed everything.

Trion is now selling thunderstrucks in the marketplace...

First symptoms:
*doubling of APEX prices
*thunderstruck trees down to a third of their price
*archeum and regrade scrolls prices halved (the former is a good thing for crafters)
*treefarms for thunderstrucks are now pointless

Snowball effects:
*inevitable doubling of worker pots and tax prices
*devalueing of everyone's current gear
*land value dropping
*gilda price going up heavily due to the massively increased demand for fishing boat/wagon recipes in the coming days

Long term consequences:
-Every player can now easily afford a fishing boat or a farm wagons, which means a massive influx of gold pouring into the economy over the next weeks, which in turn will devalue gold and cause inflation (especially on cash shop stuff or actual rare things like delphinad).

-increased number of fishers and faster traderuns and more people crafting will lead to much higher demand for labor potions, further increasing prices for them and other cash shop items

-fishing boat memory leak making fishing impossible when there's more than 4-5 fishing boats will ruin fishing for a lot of the people who currently fish as there'll be way more boats at a pool

Since gold will be worth a lot less the cash shoppers will be the only ones with good income ingame as the regular gameplay ways of making gold like fishing/traderuns will be heavily devalued and more costly because of the increased labor potion prices.


Metagame changes: people (especially me) will no longer be willing to invest in anything ingame except apex , trion made it clear that holding on to any item/material/resource to anticipate future value is pointless as they will mess up the economy and supply chain on a whim.



For me, the guild I'm in and the fishing raid everything is changing.
Our plan is:

Control freedich in the coming week, prevent everyone from getting the gilda for their fishing boats/wagons and hand in the packs ourselves to sell the recipes at inflated prices.

Once people do get their boats up all the work I put into getting the server to cooperate on fishing will be nuked as we will become fulltime pk guild and raid all fishers (green) for their boats and fishes instead of keep fishing ourselves and help feed into the inflation.
Noone knows it yet but all the people in the fishing raid are about to get fucked in a few days, the plan is to make fishing painful and not profitable on our server.


We already started by banning eastern coalition from fishing.

The fishing raid previously existed outside of guild politics so everyone declaring war on them did not affect their ability to fish with us now it does as we no longer care about the integrity of the raid or the iron rule of 'don't pk green fishers).

Between them not getting a castle, not having a smelter, failing to pk our allied guild for a castle pack and now getting excluded from fishing that guild is done.
We told all the fishermen in their guild to leave that guild if they want to fish (they still don't know we will nuke the raid in a few days and just pk anyone indiscriminately)

All of their fishers left their guild, and tonight their leader announced he is quitting the game. RIP coalition

We will go pirate soon probably along with 3 other allied pking guilds and make life shit for harania and nui factions (by shutting down fishing and gilda runs)
We'll still have the castle, the leader's plan for now is to either shape the castle walls into a giant dick (<.<)

The server is also seeing a proper exodus, many people quit today in other guilds and a lot of people just found out they set up many costly 16x16 farms for treefarms which is making them give up on the game and/or lost their thunderstruck tree/craft mats/gear investments.
People who play the market got fucked hard too by this marketplace update.

Personally I'm looking forward to destroying what I spent a month to build up (fishing peace and fishing raid) and to finally drop the farmville/carebear grinding attitude that was caused by wanting to play the long game (get rich, snowball gold, get gear for the long run).
Instead it'll be all about pking , pvp and just dicking around until the (low pop) server dies.
 

Won

Member
Had to read up, if that's true....

Wow, that's that kind of slap into the face that makes me quit a game. And I can even get over the fact that I only recently finished my boat and all the work and focus now was pointless.

But fucking over the ingame economy for a cashgrab in such a game is just fucked up.

GG Trion. GG XLGames.
 

mkenyon

Banned
It's not all bad. It means gear is more affordable, and crafting is viable compared to Hasla, which is a really big deal if you play the game for PvP. Which I do.

It is also good for the people that don't have land, as the few groups of elites that controlled most of it for TStruck farms are dumping it for cheap.

IMO, this was a positive update. It just changed it from being an extremely capitalistic top heavy game to more distributed.
 

Valus

Member
How important is it to be a patron in this game? Can you get to the top without owning land or any of that stuff?
 

Carcetti

Member
I just started this and just been doing normal MMO leveling gind which might get boring. Only thing I know is that I want to do something with ships and boats when I'm all leveled up. Anyone on EU Dahuta server?

If you want to speed up your leveling, wait until you have max labor. Drink a Vocation Tonic. Buy stone. Make Hereafter stones. Sell them back on the AH to break even or maybe even a slight profit. That'll give you 2-3 levels in about 5 minutes.

And this is just awesome advice. Thanks!
 

mkenyon

Banned
How important is it to be a patron in this game? Can you get to the top without owning land or any of that stuff?
There's no real top, per se. There's no dedicated raiding content outside of two dungeons that aren't like WoW progression. The game is what you want it to be. So yes and no?

For me, the end game is basically being a pirate and screwing with the social order of my server. My newest game/extortion: http://forums.archeagegame.com/show...ouncing-Greenpeace-Initiative-and-Fishing-Tax
I just started this and just been doing normal MMO leveling gind which might get boring. Only thing I know is that I want to do something with ships and boats when I'm all leveled up. Anyone on EU Dahuta server?



And this is just awesome advice. Thanks!
Ships are for moving packs to the different trade cities for resources, gold, and gilda, as well as fishing. Then there's the ships that exist to fight in that framework of trade.
 

Valus

Member
There's no real top, per se. There's no dedicated raiding content outside of two dungeons that aren't like WoW progression. The game is what you want it to be. So yes and no?

For me, the end game is basically being a pirate and screwing with the social order of my server. My newest game/extortion: http://forums.archeagegame.com/show...ouncing-Greenpeace-Initiative-and-Fishing-Tax

Ships are for moving packs to the different trade cities for resources, gold, and gilda, as well as fishing. Then there's the ships that exist to fight in that framework of trade.

That's my server! Are people actually paying you? Lol.
 
This fucking game...

Just in:
apex exploit
gambling boxes exploit to get exactly the items you want

economy was already dead and buried, now they just pissed on the grave.

40 percent of my server has quit since the auroria patch (half the people on in guild, seas empty except for fishers, halcyona and crimson rift have a third of the people it did a week or two ago, more than half of my friendslist quit).

Anyhow we've destroyed the fishing raid now, stealing boats and killing anyone we don't know.
Worker pots go as high as 38g during the week now, never drop below 30 anymore (before the pay2win ts tree box it was 25g high 16g low), apex shot up to 180 but now with the new exploits they're up to 250-300g.. expecting workers to follow until they fix it.

Today we got some e-beggar, sorry I meant streamer, to quit, we streamsniped him on his traderuns and at freedich over and over until his face got red and he installed wow on the stream, good riddance.

Rumor is the 55 patch is out before christmas, so people crafting/farming now are wasting their time (library is a source of archeum and will tank archeum prices, + obsidian gear and the new dungeon gear making epherium pointless)
 
Here's whats happening in my guild atm and in friendslist.

People fed up and using all their mats and gold to craft/regrade (aka gamble)
Several delphinad pieces have been made, the rest made trash while they run out of gold.

People care so little about their efforts so far because of the bugs/dupes that they're just gambling to decide if they keep playing or quit

Marketplace going down for 'possible exploit'

possible my ass, 24 hours late reacting too damage has been done, megadupes
 

Carcetti

Member
This is the weirdest MMO I've played leveling wise. With Far Cry 4, WoW and Dragon Age out now, I'm logging in every 3 days to craft sleeves and get 5 levels, then wait for the pool to fill. I don't even know what zone I'm supposed to be in right now and I think my 'main quest' broke since I don't have a story questline anymore.
 

soloscout

Neo Member
Despite the many short comings, which are less with Archeage the game and more with how XL Games handles changes and updates (consensus is that Trion is stuck in the middle) I am still having lots of fun with this game. Is anyone still playing on Aranzeb?
 
Update on my server (nui EU)

Population still in freefall, if I had to guess there's less than 30 percent of the pre auroria patch population left.
My guild got a second castle
Our castle scroll was on AH today for 500g (the default bid), noone bid on it (LOL) , it just expired
The other castle scroll was bought by the guild that owned it for 7000g

Pay2win nature of the game is in full view now.
Whales on my server 5v1ing people and winning

I fished forever and then some and got delphi weap + hc/unique magni plate and can 3v1 nonpayers too now, whales 2 shot me though. (silly to think that having the first fishing boat on the server and fishing for 4-5 hours a day at 90k since then would allow me to compete with wallet warriors)
Hit a total brick wall on gear progression, every upgrade attempt on my weapon costs 1000g (I've already blown 2000g on it with no success), every attempt at better gems costs 400g

Full delphi armor would be the obvious next upgrade but a dead server means nothing is actually for sale.
Seen 2 pieces of delphi lake in 2 months, I have one of them.

labor pots went up to 35g low 40g high, apex 250-300g.
We destroyed the fishing so noone gets to fish anymore (some still fish now and then by being sneaky), most people I've talked to don't even know how to make 500g a week anymore after paying for labor and taxes.

Trion killing off their own low pop servers by design and with the cash shop upgrades destroying the economy (labor cost too high for people to make efficient gold)

It's not even worth fishing sailfish anymore (second best fishes) because after labor and lure costs you only make 2g per fish, you'd have to fish for 150 hours just to repay a fishing boat cost. (150 hours fishing, or 70 euros for a wallet warrior)
 

Won

Member
The game sure crashed and burned pretty hard over the last couple of weeks.

My neighborhood is a wasteland. Guild member activity down by at least 50%. And no one wants to buy the scrolls for castle sieges.
Well, someone wanted to do one today, but Trion decided to do a maintenance right before the siege started.

Seems that boxes with rumbling trees are here to stay and with a the additon of a bear in the cash shop they managed to piss off another group of farmers.

It saddens me. The core game still is still pretty damn great. Could use some work (which it will probably never get), but it was defintefly the most interesting entry in the genre in good a decade. :(
 

StudioTan

Hold on, friend! I'd love to share with you some swell news about the Windows 8 Metro UI! Wait, where are you going?
The servers are broken since yesterday. My server on one of the two that are up but there is a huge queue. No thanks.
 

Vyrance

Member
Yea it's crazy that the game's been down for more than a day now. I haven't played since Saturday :(

I play on Calleil (NA), and we seem pretty healthy overall. Saw people listing some prices for things, as far as Calleil goes, labor pots stick around 30g, and APEX swings from 150g-180g depending on time of day
 
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Queen of Hunting

Unconfirmed Member
is this game dead. last post in here was last year ?
 
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