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Our hands-on impressions of the Switch
- Thread starter Moz La Punk
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This needs to be spread far and wide. People need to know this is legit because I think when it was announced, it inspired a LOT of cynicism.
More on the marble thing. At one point I had a single marble in the Joy-con, I was able to slowly roll.it around inside and clearly feel it in every area.
It was a strange sensation to hold the marble dead in the center, with a lot of balance! You'd could even feel the marble gain momentum as you tilted the Joy-con.
Only think missing is the clack sound because no speaker, but you really can feel it.
Genuine mind blown. I played that demo a lot.
It was a strange sensation to hold the marble dead in the center, with a lot of balance! You'd could even feel the marble gain momentum as you tilted the Joy-con.
Only think missing is the clack sound because no speaker, but you really can feel it.
Genuine mind blown. I played that demo a lot.
michaelius
Banned
Anyone managed to check if screen is IPS ?
Movalpolos
Banned
It's being used in a mini game collection currently. Would like to see how it's used in a full fledged game.
Great write up! It's nice to see some positivity on here, most threads derail into the usual doom and gloom about Nintendo. This looks like a premium device with excellent build quality.
The lack of 3rd party support never bothers me as I believe most here will have a Nintendo console as their 2nd console. I think it will sell better than expected - more than the GameCube but less than the Wii.
Have mine pre ordered and cannot wait!
The lack of 3rd party support never bothers me as I believe most here will have a Nintendo console as their 2nd console. I think it will sell better than expected - more than the GameCube but less than the Wii.
Have mine pre ordered and cannot wait!
I can already imagine a few good applications in Zelda, not the least of which Fishing
I was really excited for the rumble in the triggers for Xbox One but this tech makes that feel like an N64 rumble pack.
This is not vibrate slow or fast, it gives you the sensation in what seems like any point on the Joy-con, not just shake the whole thing.
Feeling the vibration from the top of your hand to the bottom, gives the sesntation of something moving inside.
I really hope this opens more unique gameplay and can finally introduce gaming to the visually imparied.
The other demo, safe cracking, was pretty good too but didn't really show off the strange feeling of something moving inside the Joy-con.
This is not vibrate slow or fast, it gives you the sensation in what seems like any point on the Joy-con, not just shake the whole thing.
Feeling the vibration from the top of your hand to the bottom, gives the sesntation of something moving inside.
I really hope this opens more unique gameplay and can finally introduce gaming to the visually imparied.
The other demo, safe cracking, was pretty good too but didn't really show off the strange feeling of something moving inside the Joy-con.
Moz La Punk
Member
Thing is I dont think Zelda uses it, although its difficult to judge right now.
Like I said at the bottom of the previous page the rumble is fantastic, but I hope Nintendo (and other developers) use it in a lot of titles so its not some forgotten feature in a few years.
Would be great if you could, in Splatoon 2, "weight" your ink supply that way !
Not sure if it's IPS but I was shocked at how sharp and clear the screen is. Viewing angles are perfect, I didn't notice any lack of clarity at any angle.
For someone who hated every panel Nintendo have used, they finally got this one right.
Movalpolos
Banned
Can you blame them? Nintendo seems to be doing everything wrong. The controller haptic gimmick seems cool though, but I fear it will be underutilized.
Ghostshark
Member
It's great to hear that it's comfortable to hold. What were your impressions of the build quality? Did it feel durable? Does it have the sorta creaky cheap feeling like the 3ds, or did it feel closer to an ipad?
Moz La Punk
Member
Echoing this. The screen is top notch. Not comparable to screens on the 3DS or Wii U at all.
It feels luxury and durable, thats the great thing about the console and the different controllers. Of course build quality will have to prove itself over the years. It does not have a cheap feeling but I also can't really compare it to an ipad. It is its own thing.
I love reading the impressions on the joycons. When we first heard the rumors, there were a lot of threads with mock-ups and I think nobody really found anything that would feel ergonomical in the different use cases. Most of us felt that it was a gimmick that would never be used. To hear Nintendo not only manage it but actually knock it out of the park is great. They really have some controller design wizards walking around there. Makes the 80 for the dual joycons also sound a lot less bad.
Beren the Empty-Handed
Member
I remember that a few years back, there was some speculation that Nintendo would use some haptic rumble for the Wii U controller, maybe there's a connection between these rumors and the "HD" rumble ?
This needs to be spread far and wide. People need to know this is legit because I think when it was announced, it inspired a LOT of cynicism.
Gizmodo is super positive about the rumble, even for traditional games like Zelda (ie climbing up stairs): http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2017/01/p...witch-feels-new-and-classic-at-the-same-time/
Moz La Punk
Member
Oh, so I was wrong about Zelda not using it. Cool. The more games use the rumble the better!
Nah, it has gotten completely out of hand. There's a ridiculous hyperbole where everything gets framed negatively. There are genuine concerns yes, but most of what is going on on GAF is just unfettered shitposting right now. Mods should start acting IMO.
Well that negativity didn't take long to arrive.
Moz La Punk
Member
The hyperbole on NeoGAF (was checking the forum on the way to the event and afterwards yesterday) wasn't comparable with how the press on their way to the event though about it and it wasn't comparable to how the press though after the event. There are some drawbacks, mostly on the software side, but I haven't heard a lot of negativity about the system itself.
Myself and some colleagues were a bit shocked on the negativity on GAF to be honest. But either way, GAF is part of the consumer public so its all fair game.
The milk demo uses the rumble too, I was able to get 14 cups of milk due to the rumble giving accurate feedback to how well you were doing the motions.
I can't really articulate the demo well, but you got a sense that doing the motions and inputs a certain way made more milk come out in a single pull.
It was weird, but I instantly knew doing things a certain ways gave less milk so I changed the method and got more.
The average score was 4 cups.
I can't really articulate the demo well, but you got a sense that doing the motions and inputs a certain way made more milk come out in a single pull.
It was weird, but I instantly knew doing things a certain ways gave less milk so I changed the method and got more.
The average score was 4 cups.
Concerns were about the screen not so long ago. End result is, it gets praised left and right.
I'm certainly not afraid to criticize Nintendo, the price of everything from the console to the accessories to paid online were all terrible decisions, but I am nothing if not determined to look at the Switch from a balanced view. There are clearly interesting positives to discuss as well as negatives and by the looks of things, this HD Rumble feature is being criminally overlooked.
Thanks for the impressions!
The bolded is not exactly what I meant
Do you know if you could set up 4 switches in the same way as those 8 and play Mario Kart with 8 players on those 4 Switches?DarkGorgon
Member
I need Gamecube VC
Starfox Adventures!!!!
Starfox Adventures!!!!
Moz La Punk
Member
Thanks for the impressions!
The bolded is not exactly what I meant
Ah! No idea, we were confined to the set up at the event.
I really don't get the hyperbole at all either.
The device is more powerful than a Wii U, which had some stunning games. You can also play these games on the go, and this is a HUGE upgrade from a 3DS.
The price is a premium but is competitive when you compare it to an iPad or similar tablet. I get that Nintendo are pushing this mainly as a "home console" but you can't just include a screen, battery etc without pushing costs up.
Movalpolos
Banned
That seems to be the standard since last gen, I would be really surprised if it didn't have these apps.
Didn't notice much heat on Splatoon and Mario Kart, demo stations had been running for a few hours at that point.
Didn't notice any fan noise or anything either
Moz La Punk
Member
Correct, didn't notice the fan.
Like I said earlier the Switch got kinda warm on the backside during my Zelda playthough. Wasn't bothering me at all and it wasn't HOT, just warm.
eXistor
Member
Good impressions, thanks! I really do think Nintendo can get a decent sized hit with the Switch if they can keep up momentum, they really can't afford any major crap-ups anymore. I think the showing was good enough, but they really need to keep this train going with new announcements throughout the year.
Movalpolos
Banned
If the new Zelda doesn't utilize the haptics that would be such a missed opportunity to incentivize that version over the Wii U.
Kentuchi
Neo Member
Yes definitely the game line-up should have been better and neogaf is right on thar, also that paid online service is cause for concern but we still don't know how consumers would react, neogaf so far generally thinks this is DOA but I haven't gotten that sentiment outside gamer circles, it's like two different worlds.
Especially as I'm more aware of the echo chamber effect of online communities these days it does feel like we shouldn't as a community be so quick to say this isn't going to be successful for Nintendo long term.
tenderbrew
Member
Thanks for the hands-on. I've felt like avoiding GAF for the last day and a half because I just couldn't take the negative echo chamber.
This stuff all sounds excellent and it's nice to hear some solid hands-on. Looking really forward to Zelda in ... 48 days (holy shit!)
This stuff all sounds excellent and it's nice to hear some solid hands-on. Looking really forward to Zelda in ... 48 days (holy shit!)
Gizmodo says you can feel you're climbing up a hill. Subtle things like this should make playing the game more visceral.
Movalpolos
Banned
I would like to read some of your thoughts on these issues:
What do you think about online paywall?
The one game a month that you lose after a month?
Storage space?
Cost of accessories and controllers?
Do you think any of these will be a factor in the success of this device?
many thanks for your write up and positive impressions. nice to read the positives, although i share your concerns about the launch line up. unfortunately N did not tell much about VC which could make up a bit for the line up.
but honestly i was one of the believers anyway and zelda cemented my day one order (first N console since gamecube).
but honestly i was one of the believers anyway and zelda cemented my day one order (first N console since gamecube).
Moz La Punk
Member
Sure, no problem.
About the online paywall / one game a month deal: difficult to say without knowing the specifics. What will the online infrastructure of the Switch offer? We have to know that before making conclusions. If they've just said 'well, Sony and Microsoft put it behind a paywall so we will too', they've lost the plot, because Sony en MS offer online options that have been expanded and perfected over the course of multiple generations. If Nintendo can offer a similar online experience, they're in the right for asking money. As far as the one game a month deal goes I would have done things differently. I would have offered the entire VC line-up free of charge for everyone getting a Nintendo online subscribtion. An Onlive type of deal, where you pay monthly to play online AND to play all VC games free of charge. It may not be the most profitable but Nintendo needs to hit it out of the park this generation.
Storage space is difficult to say if it will become a problem, but 32 GB isn't a lot and it kind of baffles me because Nintendo has been earning a lot money from selling their full priced games digital.
The price of the controllers and stuff is too high imo. Perhaps its needed to make it profitable with all the technology in the controllers, but its just too high compared to what people are used to when buying controllers.
I don't really think all these things are important when facturing in the overall success of a console. Its all about trying to create a hype and you do that with a great console and great games. The great console is there, no doubt, the great games are coming but we haven't seen enough. 2017 is still a bit empty. They need to change that, perhaps they are doing that and they haven't showed everything yet, especially third party wise, but that would be strange as third parties have nothing to gain by keeping their games a secret now, especially since the console is coming out in 7 weeks.
Nice to hear it's applied on Zelda, and Mario Kart 8 as well per GX's impressions. Like I said in the other thread about HD rumble, I am hoping that more games use this feature pretty extensively.
Possumowner
Member
Great impressions on the Joycons,seems they're pretty unique technology in them.
Octavianus
Banned
I would love a new Wario Ware in the vein of Smooth Moves using the Joy-Cons
Moz La Punk
Member
Yes, I think that would be a killer app down the line. Here's hoping.
A new Warioware for the Switch would be nuts with this feature, among other things on the Joycons.