ElBoxyBrown
Banned
Pin-ups can be playful. There not just sexy.
Video games use references all the time.
Video games use references all the time.
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Overwatch's Tracer new over the shoulder pose after last weeks request
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archangelmorph
Member
I rest my case.
Blizz are still the biggest nerds for how they handle this, but what else is new?
The new pose is SO much better, but i still think that the reason of the change is incredibly stupid, is a "fast", "good friend" etc person not supposed to be or to desire to be sexy(not that the initial pose was that sexy)? It's like passing from a dumb plain stereotype(the sexy girl) to another as dumb and plain(the virgin heroine without sexual life or desires).
NumberThree
Member
Yes the controversy is silly. But it's worth noting that there was never a controversy about the original pose. Someone gave Blizzard feedback and Blizzard responded to that. The controversy started after Blizzard responded saying they'd be changing the pose.
Acquiescence
Member
So after all that controversy, they revised their decision and opted for a pose in which the key difference is that she lifts one of her legs up. And that's it.
I think if you're a video games developer, spending too much time on community boards has to be damaging for your health. I mean it has to be right? That's a whole lot of stress that I could happily live without.
I think if you're a video games developer, spending too much time on community boards has to be damaging for your health. I mean it has to be right? That's a whole lot of stress that I could happily live without.
Liferebooted
Banned
LOL I'd think the person who ruined the first pose for us would be even unhappier with this one. 
She's a character, not a person. As such she 'desires' to be whatever the artists and writers decide.
Her last pose could only be described as "Here's my ass". It had no nuance, and it seemed detached from Tracer's characteristics; it wasn't fun, or energetic. This one, by contrast, is better - if you want to see her as having a "desire to be sexy" it doesn't take away from that, but it also isn't her just doing an ass pose.
The change makes sense to me. It isn't about being prudish with the characters, it's about portraying the characters in a way that makes sense instead of giving a character a generic 'be sexy' pose.
Fine Ham Abounds
Member
As a leg and butt man, this seems barely different. I guess now instead of full on presenting, she looks more like a hood ornament?
Old Gimlet Eyes
Member
Oh yeah that original pose was a masterpiece and those dirty complainers ruined it alright.LOL I'd think the person who ruined the first pose for us would be even unhappier with this one.
Devilinthiscity
Member
2sexy4me
Change it again!
Seriously though, this looks like it could build a better argument than the other pose lol. I'm actually surprised people aren't upset about this one as well. I really like this one more though. Tracer is such a cool character.
Change it again!
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Seriously though, this looks like it could build a better argument than the other pose lol. I'm actually surprised people aren't upset about this one as well. I really like this one more though. Tracer is such a cool character.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Still sexy, but it's a much better pose. I approve.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
Holy shit hahahah. I can't get the image of her on the hood of a car out of my head now. That's what it's like alright.
Xamtheking
Member
Blizzard just wanted proper representation for flamingos
Entirely true, but the OP on the Overwatch forums made no sense with their complaint. The original pose did not specifically show off her butt, the fact that her outfit has spray on pants did that. When your behind her in-game her pants do that. If her pants were replaced with semi-loose fitting pants, say to match her bomber jacket, the old pose would have zero sexual appeal. Problem was the OP didn't complain about what really made the pose sexual by any definition, the pants, they instead complained about the pose.
This new pose is far better no matter the implications thanks to being more dynamic and visually pleasing, but again that OP's argument falls flat as the real crux of either pose looking sexual in any way is inherent to her outfit, not the poses themselves.
YoYo Switch
Banned
She's got a nice ass
The Last Wizard
Member
Wait, this was changed because of a complaint on the blizzard forums?
This is actually better.
This is actually better.
Not enough lions, 7/10.
ebullientprism
Member
Isnt this even more sexualised than before? Its a classic playboy pinup pose.
Phoenix Fang
Banned
I wish this game had a single player campaign that you didn't need to be connected online.
I agree that the old pose was bad and not sexy at all, but there are deep and realistic characters and there are flat and simple characters, the energetic heroine whose only thought is to frag others is an old, flat and dumb stereotype, on the other hand complex, realistic and interesting characters have desires, dreams, interests, incoherencies etc, removing a bad pose because a certain kind of heroine cannot be or desire to look sexy is as stupid as the pose itself and reduces the character to a flat stereotype.
Admiral Woofington
Member
Game looks like it has a lot of fucking charm and a lot of potential for a great campaign of a light hearted watchmen/incredibles. But multiplayer only I have no interest in.
I think my wife nailed the situation perfectly when she said, "Both poses look like stereotypical pictures of women in games". She plays damn near everything video game wise and I think she is pretty resigned to the fact that it is a rare day when video game representation of women is ever truly spot on or not eye candy.
I agree with my wife here too. I know next to nothing about the game, it seems cool. I think it is pretty damned cool that Blizzard took feedback and used it to make a change. I think it silly how people overreacted to them doing that. Honestly it just looked like petty jealousy.
I kind of just wish people wouldnt overreact so negatively to things they don't agree with. Theb maybe we can have meaningful discussion about the actual issues that need to be talked about.
I agree with my wife here too. I know next to nothing about the game, it seems cool. I think it is pretty damned cool that Blizzard took feedback and used it to make a change. I think it silly how people overreacted to them doing that. Honestly it just looked like petty jealousy.
I kind of just wish people wouldnt overreact so negatively to things they don't agree with. Theb maybe we can have meaningful discussion about the actual issues that need to be talked about.
Actually they already have a sitting pose in the game.
The sitting pose is the best pose hands down IMO. So much more personality than the others.
CertifiedFP
Member
Uh, guys.
In my culture it is considered disrespectful to show the soles of your shoes to someone else.
In my culture it is considered disrespectful to show the soles of your shoes to someone else.
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) - But really, in some cultures it is.
NeoHorizon
Member
I like it. Looks better than the plain boring pose
Pretty much, old pose was a tired "sexy femme fatale" bullshit, this one is spunky and full of cheer like the character.
Agreed. It's cute, it's playful, and it's kinda mocking to the losers, haha.
neoism
Member
lol i seen that reddit and thought the new one was fake... lol.. neither bother me.
AmaterasuOni
Banned
Oh yeah. She's even hotter now. Good job Blizzard!
blizzard receives various complaints over a wide range of issues all the time. the idea that they "buckled" to anything is ludicrous. Someone pointed out something about the original pose and blizz tended to agree, especially since blizzard finally concluded that the pose didn't fit the playful nature of the character
to be honest the reactionary comments to the original complaint seem to be way louder and somehow more irritating.
Rabid Dwarf 76
Member
They gave her an even better pose. Well done! Not what I was expecting. Well done.
mikefrails
Banned
They're slightly hiding what we know is there. This whole thing is embarrassing.
Dance Inferno
Unconfirmed Member
LOL I'd think the person who ruined the first pose for us would be even unhappier with this one.
Do people not freaking read primary sources at all? Kaplan's post said they were planning to change the pose before anyone ever posted on their forums. People on the internet sure love getting up in arms about the cause du jour, even if they know absolutely nothing about it.
So yeah, that poster totally "ruined the first pose for us." Blizz sure showed him.
RockTurtle
Member
http://www.destructoid.com/surprise...s-in-overwatch-with-her-new-pose-353445.phtml
new costume incoming?
new costume incoming?
