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What would you consider terrible?
Vita numbers. 50-60K :|
What would you consider terrible?
I think Pachter had it at 675k and EEDAR had it at 600k. It was just predictions though, as far as i know.Didnt Pachter say last month the Wii U did 600k in Dec and was wrong.
If it is selling worse than the $599 PS3 did after the initial holiday release, than they have some problems. The window to fix this is going to keep shrinking if neither Microsoft or Sony go crazy with the pricing of their new systems. This will be a very interesting E3.
Vita numbers. 50-60K :|
This is pretty much the norm for most console launches though. The PS2 beat the shit out of the new consoles for ages.
I can see it going under 100k in February. They need a price cut badly.
First January in USA:
PS2: 248k
Xbox: 127k
Gamecube: 59k (after a much stronger start than Wii U, too)
GBA: 171k (8th month)
DS: 152k
PSP: 179k (11th month)
360: 249k
PS3: 244k
Wii: 435k
3DS: 171k (11th month)
Because those 6-7 year platforms are still going strong, if the PS4/720 was already announced the PS3/360 sales would probably be lower.
I'm not sure that's apples to apples in any case. The PS3 released into a strong economy without competition from high end smartphones and tablets at similar price points.
The reason the PS3 did so terrible its first year was because the economy was terrible. It was worse then than it is now.
I can see it going under 100k in February. They need a price cut badly.
The reason the PS3 did so terrible its first year was because the economy was terrible. It was worse then than it is now.
No, it didn't. The Wii outsold it handily right from the start - every month in 2007 except March, sometimes doubling the PS2's sales. The PS2 did do somewhat better than the 360 - although the 360 closed out the year ahead. The only new console it "beat the shit out of" was the PS3.
They need GAMES. I don't know why people instantly jump to price cuts. Yes, it'll cause a boost but games are a more pressing issue. A price cut is a more serious and permanent decision not one you just throw around because things aren't going well
Ummm... no, The Economic crises happened in 2008, PS3 launched in 2006.
People consider that good? For a console that's not supply constrained, this seems really bad.
If you were paying $599 for a console you'd think the economy were shitty too.
Gamecube: 59k (after a much stronger start than Wii U, too)
The price cut option has one advantage in that it can be implemented in the short-term. If the great software that's going to drive sales isn't going to be ready for some time, what else do you have to fall back on? If it's not finished, you can't just shove 3D Mario onto the marketplace and expect it to carry the platform.
Mind you, I'm not suggesting that the answer is a price cut. But it's worth noting that the 3DS recovery was the result of both high profile releases and a price cut.
The price cut option has one advantage in that it can be implemented in the short-term. If the great software that's going to drive sales isn't going to be ready for some time, what else do you have to fall back on? If it's not finished, you can't just shove 3D Mario onto the marketplace and expect it to carry the platform.
Mind you, I'm not suggesting that the answer is a price cut. But it's worth noting that the 3DS recovery was the result of both high profile releases and a price cut.
With the 3DS it always seemed they had the leeway to lower the price significantly. With the WiiU not so much. I'm pretty sure it's selling close to it's price point and Nintendo probably wants to keep it selling at a profit for as long as possible and cut only when they're absolutely sure it can't be salvaged. If they cut it and it booms later in the year they're essentially permanently losing that difference in profit
The whole marketing strategy is bad, I find criminal for example not focusing on the off TV aspect, it´s non existing in ads.I blame the ad agency.
Iwata said costs should come down enough for them to turn a profit on Wii U in the summer. Once they refine the OS a bit with updates and release some games, the fall and Christmas season should be better for them.
Well, better than what? Than what we're seeing now? I should hope so. Personally, while I don't write off the chances of a "good to great" holiday 2013, I don't feel comfortable at all going out on a limb and making a call either way. There's way too many variables in play that we don't know enough about yet.
JESUS. Those are sales numbers I'd expect during anemic or phasing out periods..
Seems awful to me. Lot of rose tinted glasses around here.
How are they going to hit 4 million with this kind of performance for the next two months? I have doubts they can do it.
I obviously wasn't talking about the Wii. It's THE exception of exceptions.
Just a while ago they had hoped to sell 5.5* million by April, that became 4 million, already indicative of a bad launch. Have we realigned our expectations to that new figure so soon? I really doubt they're going to do it."Rose-tinted" how? Serious question. It's not horrible, but being behind PS3/360 at this point in their launch is a major problem.
This thing needs software, software, and more software.
Just a while ago they had hoped to sell 5 million by April, that became 4 million, already indicative of a bad launch. Have we realigned our expectations to that new figure so soon? I really doubt they're going to do it.
It did in the UK, some outlet stores offering a third off what GAME are charging. Still besides the point.I'm guessing closer to 85k. December was horrendous and it didn't suddenly get any cheaper.
I would assume that the boom later in the year would have been heavily aided by a price cut. I am going to be shocked if there isn't a price cut before the year's end, even if I agree that right now may not be the right time for one.
Well, if I could predict the future, I'd be much more shrewd with my investing. They have a lot of work to do. I think the system could have more broad appeal if they can market it correctly, but its a catch 22 because you can't do that without effective software. It's all in the follow through.
Lowest months of first 3 years:
360 - 161,000 (first February), 155,000 (second May)
PS3 - 82,000 (first April), 82,000 (first May)
Wii - 259,000 (first March), 274,000 (second January)
below the DS and Wii.
How long is the DS going to continue to eat sales that should belong to the 3DS in North America?
The whole marketing strategy is bad, I find criminal for example not focusing on the off TV aspect, it´s non existing in ads.
I really thought they learned after the 3DS launch. I guess they were really banking on the fourth NSMB game to do business >_>Just a while ago they had hoped to sell 5.5* million by April, that became 4 million, already indicative of a bad launch. Have we realigned our expectations to that new figure so soon? I really doubt they're going to do it.