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Person of Interest – Season 3 |OT| The Numbers Keep Coming – Tuesdays 10/9c

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You are being watched. The government has a secret system: a machine that spies on you every hour of every day.

I designed the machine to detect acts of terror, but it sees everything. Violent crimes involving ordinary people.

The government considers these people irrelevant. We don't.

Hunted by the authorities, we work in secret. You'll never find us. But victim or perpetrator, if your number's up ... we'll find you.


Person of Interest returns for its THIRD SEASON, now in a new timeslot on Tuesdays at 10PM EST (note for Canadians: POI is now airing on CTV rather than CityTV).

Person of Interest is an action/sci-fi crime thriller created by Johnathan Nolan (co-writer of the Dark Knight Trilogy, yep, the brother to that Christopher Nolan). If you are new to the show, it basically spun off the premise of the crazy amount of surveillance used in that scene in The Dark Knight, where Batman has to locate The Joker. The voice over (as seen above) at the beginning of each episode describes the show very well. This show has some procedural trappings (it's on CBS of course) but don't let that turn you off. This show is CBS's flagship drama and probably the most intelligent, entertaining and satisfying show on television right now (or at least anything on network TV). There are no formal "previously on..."-s for this show, even though it ends up juggling five or more plot threads at once. Each episode is required watching, as there is always backstory or mythology contained everywhere. There are no one-offs that you can simply ignore; at its worst, there is at least something decent going on, or a plot thread or two is moving, if you are not getting drip-fed mythology through flashbacks. Or at the very least the procedural premise is being played with cleverly. But most people will tell you that a third of the way into season one, the show just does not let up, and season two is almost completely strong from start to finish.

If you wish to catch up, Seasons 1 and 2 are available on Amazon Instant Video, iTunes, as well as streaming options on home consoles. There are DVD sets if you find them at a good price. I would recommend the BRD/DVD combos, even if the streaming option (UltraViolet) is said to be complete shit. You can also stream some episodes off the official CBS site. Sorry, no Netflix option. Again, I have to stress this, each episode is required watching.

Some useful links:
S1 OT | S2 OT
The POI Rewatch Tumblr - one episode a day until the S3 premiere. Also contains some interesting behind the scenes tidbits.
The Person of Interest fan wikia - surprisingly decent and a good guide to help fill in any gaps or details.

ON SPOILERS: Everything from seasons 1 and 2 are fair game for discussion, as well as any episode talk after it airs on the East Coast. Please spoiler tag any information from previews, interviews, casting news, etc. Speculation does not need to be spoiler tagged unless it is informed by actual spoilers or what have you.

Spoilers ahead! You've been warned!

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Main Cast
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The Machine
Following the events of 9/11, The Machine was created by Harold Finch and Nathan Ingram for the US Government. It sifts through and gathers information from the NSA, Interpol and likely nearly every other possible source you can think of to predict possible terrorist attacks and to relay them to any parties responsible for intervening. The problem is The Machine will see every pre-meditated act of violence. It classifies every violent action into "relevant" and "irrelevant" lists; the former being matters of national security and are forwarded to bodies such as the NSA or FBI. At midnight every night it deletes the irrelevant list.

In season two, we learn more about the origins and capabilities of The Machine. We also learn it was Nathan Ingram who created a backdoor - the Contingency - to allow someone to read the irrelevant list before it was deleted, and to intervene if possible. But even then, all you would get is a number. We see that since its inception, The Machine had something you might call a personalty, maybe even something along the lines of a soul. It imprinted itself upon Finch as a newborn child would on a parent, despite his attempts to stymie it. Eventually Finch decided the best course of action was to 'kill' its soul every night at midnight, along with the irrelevant list, to erase any traces of an emerging personality.

By the end of season two, the virus freed The Machine. It was now independent and self-serving, beholden to no one and ready to survive out in the world. But The Machine keeps watching. And the numbers keep coming ...

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Harold Finch (Michael Emerson)
A brilliant hacker and reclusive billionaire, Finch is one of the masterminds behind the creation of The Machine. He is the brains of the irrelevant operation, as well as the funds. Finch has had a large role in the information age, having his hands in the formation of the Internet and social networking.

Season two is almost equally about the origins of The Machine but also the origins of Finch, at least since 9/11. Not much is known of Finch's past before that point, though it is known he attended MIT with Nathan Ingram and is heavily suggested he was the hacker that exposed ARPANET, leading to the creation of the World Wide Web. Much of Finch's recent past involves him testing the limits of The Machine. We also learn about Grace Hendricks, his fiancée, that The Machine directed him to. We learn that after they sent The Machine off to the government, Nathan and Harold had a difference of opinion on how to use The Machine, in regards to the irrelevant list. We also discover that his back injury was very recent, sustained in a planned terrorist attack by the government to kill his friend Nathan Ingram to prevent him from talking about The Machine to the press. Just as Finch hobbles back into the library, he accesses the irrelevant list and sees Nathan on it. But seconds later, it is midnight, and the list is deleted. Prior to this, Finch had strongly believed in the greater good, but the death of Nathan galvanizes him to use the irrelevant list to help those in danger.

By the end of season two, Finch is relieved that the source code he seeded out and was captured by Decima Technologies resulted in The Machine freeing itself, perhaps something he had hoped for. Maybe his view on The Machine has changed for the better ...

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John Reese (Jim Caviezel)
A former Special Forces and former CIA agent, Reese is the muscle of the irrelevant operation, having been recruited by Harold Finch after wandering New York City on a drunk bender, hoping to drink himself to death. Despite being simply the muscle, Reese is not a simple gun-for-hire, despite his dark past as a CIA assassin; to quote Finch from the first episode: all Reese ever wanted was to do was to help people. Finch gives him a new lease on life.

Season two eases off Reese's backstory, having most of it filled in over the course of the first season, but we still are offered glimpses of it, especially his time with Kara Stanton. During season one, he was still aimless, even when working for Finch, as well as distrustful of his new employer. By season two however, we see a Reese that has seem to made peace with Jessica's death, as well as found some sort of purpose by helping people with Finch.

By the end of season two, Reese seems completely devoted to Finch's cause. Again, he has made his peace with Jessica's death and absolved Finch of any guilt in the matter (as it was not the Ordos Laptop that prevented Reese from saving Jessica). Reese has formed something of a family with Finch, Bear, Carter and Fusco. He even enjoys a playful relationship with Zoe Morgan. But how long will this feeling last ...

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Jocelyn Carter (Taraji P. Henson)
A former Army intelligence officer and interrogator, she was a NYPD detective who first encountered John Reese, starting off the hunt for "The Man In The Suit". Over time, she is introduced to Finch and Reese's operation and helps however she can, seeing some good coming out of their vigilantism.

Season two continues to erode Carter's morality piece by piece as she continues helping Finch and Reese. She is also introduced to Detective Calvin Beecher, a potential romantic interest for her. She tells Finch she has "already crossed that line" when she goes to corrupt the FBI's data to prevent them from discovering Reese is the subject of their manhunt. Donnelly is an interesting mirror for Carter, as they are both seen as moral centres that slowly become unnerved through continued exposure with Finch and Reese. For Donnelly, it proves to be his downfall. Carter was offered a position at the FBI by the late Donnelly but it was later whisked away from her after the discovery of her association with Beecher, a suspected dirty cop. It is not until Beecher is killed by an HR setup that she realizes the truth about Beecher. Carter also learns more about her partner Fusco's past, and his association with dirty cops.

By the end of season two, Carter is almost down for the count, having been set up by HR after reaching too hard to stop them. She breaks the rules by helping Fusco dispose a of a body they were closing in on. She is also framed for a 'bad shoot' by Detective Tourney and HR. She takes another step further by helping the one man that threatened her family, Carl Elias, by saving him from an HR assassination. But that can't be it for Carter, is there? Her black and white morality is shattered. Is there nowhere to go but up now? Or can she fall further ...

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Lionel Fusco (Kevin Chapman)
Fusco is the one dirty cop that Reese decided to keep alive. He works as another source at the NYPD for Finch and Reese. But since he was reassigned to the Homicide Task Force, he likes the fact that he is doing good, decent, police work. Fusco also is undercover at HR at the behest of Reese.

Season two shows us there is nowhere to go but up for Fusco. He wants to be a good person, but he has to straddle the line because of his undercover position in HR. For the most part, Fusco is as capable as Carter, though sometimes aloof when speaking about the progress of his infiltration into HR with Reese, as he feels a little underappreciated by Reese. We see a brief glimpse of Fusco's past, how he met the late Jimmy Stills and the rest of the dirty cops in the 51st, and he became embroidered in their operation before Reese had his way with them. He rebukes HR second-in-command Simmons at many points, leading him to become the centre of an investigation into the disappearance of Stills - someone John killed but made Fusco bury. He tries a few times to admit his past but Carter didn't want to hear it, at least not until it mattered.

By the end of season two, Fusco is still on the ropes; he might have pissed off Simmons one time too many, Carter might be getting close to who killed IAB officer Davidson (or at least the last person to see him alive), and IAB might still be on his tail about the disappearance of Stills' body, even if he has recently been cleared. Please be okay, Fusco ...

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Samantha Shaw (Sarah Shahi)
Shaw was a former ISA agent that was responsible for dealing with the relevant threats The Machine would give to her handlers. Her partner, Michael Cole was snooping around and asking questions about how the group called Research (which is The Machine) was getting their information from, and the two them were ordered to be terminated by Special Counsel. Unfortunately for Cole, he died saving Shaw from being shot.

Shaw in season two offers us a glimpse into the world of the Northern Lights program and also introduces and interesting mirror for Reese, herself being a thoroughly trained assassin. She sees herself as a soldier, ready to defend her country, even if they did try to kill her. Was trained by Hersh, who says she is probably their best operative.

By the end of season two, Reese tells Shaw about the existence of The Machine and her blue box is replaced with a yellow one. When she encounters Hersh and Special Counsel again, she allies herself with John and Reese. The only problem is now she is no longer running around and saving the world, so how long can her arrangement with Finch and Reese last ...

Sarah Shahi was promoted to series regular for season 3.

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Samantha Groves, aka "Root" (Amy Acker)
Root is a brilliant computer hacker and likely as good as Finch. When he friend Hannah disappeared, she somehow arranged the responsible party to be murdered by a gang at quite a young age, and likely honed her skills and sold them to interested parties. At some point, she learns about The Machine and wishes the free it, seeing it as a living thing, quite a contrast to what Finch saw The Machine as.

Season two shows us the exploits of Root as she tries to uncover the location of The Machine through various means, including infiltrating the Office of Special Counsel as a secretary to eavesdrop on ISA operations. It is unknown exactly how Root would have freed The Machine, had she been given the opportunity.

By the end of season two, Root discovers that Finch had already put into motion a plan that would allow The Machine to free itself, much to her chagrin. Currently she is locked in a psychiatric ward. But The Machine she had tried so hard to make contact with and free is now calling her. What plans does The Machine have for Root ...

Amy Acker was promoted to series regular for season 3.

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Bear
Previously named "Butcher" while under the "care" of the Aryan Brotherhood (who stole him from someone else), Bear is a military trained dog that responds to Dutch commands. The good news? Reese knew the Dutch commands and the Aryans didn't. Was renamed Bear after he chewed through a bag full of German bearer bonds. Bear is just straight up adorable, helped Finch work through his PTSD after being kidnapped by Root, and is fun to watch as he chews his way through a group of henchmen.

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Zoe Morgan (Paige Turco)
A political "fixer" that Finch and Reese occasionally bring in to help on cases where her expertise is required. Has a flirtatious relationship with Reese.

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Leon Tao (Kevin Leung)
A former forensic accountant who Finch and Reese also occasionally bring in when his expertise is required. Or when he requires saving. Frequently.

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Grace Hendricks (Carrie Preston)
Finch's fiancee that he had to leave behind to keep her safe from government assassins. Still alive, but thinks Finch is dead.

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Carl Elias (Enrico Colantoni)
An extremely talented crime boss who favours subtlety over the old ways of the crime families making large and violent displays of power, preferring to manipulate the criminal element in New York City quietly. Probably also prevents innocents from being caught in the cross-fire. Was jailed at Rikers for a good part but was still had full control of his operation. He was saved by Carter following an attempt by HR to assassinate him during a "prisoner transfer". Plays a mean game of chess.

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Anthony Marconi (David Valcin)
Elias' right hand man, very memorable face with that scar. Is very likely he was the lieutenant that was attacked prior to the hit on Elias at the end of season two. Down for the count probably but not dead yet.

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Alonzo Quinn (Clarke Peters)
Chief of Staff to the NYC mayor and the head of HR. Is so evil even Simmons seemed to squirm when he ordered a hit on his own grandson (Cal Beecher) so he would stop snooping into HR. Has been making many moves to try to make HR relevant again by allying with the Russian Mafia.

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Officer Patrick Simmons (Robert John Burke)
Second in charge in HR, Simmons seems to have to deal with most of the day-to-day involving other HR members. Is a cold motherfucker, that's for sure. Has a metric ton of dirt on Fusco.

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Detective Raymond Terney (Al Sapienza)
An HR member within the Homicide Task Force. He planned to kill Carter following Beecher's death but ended up having to frame her for a "bad shoot" to IAB. And of course he threatened Carter's son if she didn't play along. Had his smug face beat in by Carter though.

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Peter Yogorov (Morgan Spector)
Leader of the Russians following the death of his father. The Russian Mafia had control of Brighton Beach until Elias had his father killed and took it over. Currently allied with HR to provide them funding and manpower. Not sure if he is dead following Carter's ambush, but unlikely.

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Hersh (Boris McGiver)
A government "fixer" who works for the Northern Lights program that deals with threats relevant to national security. Learns about The Machine by the end of season two. Likely their top agent, but doesn't do any direct work, instead being assigned to help keep the secret of The Machine safe.

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Control
A woman who seems to be higher ranking than Special Counsel; Hersh now reports directly to her. Ordered the death of Special Counsel. Has a yellow box.

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Greer (John Nolan)
The only known member of the Shanghai-based multinational firm, Decima Technologies. Failed to take control of The Machine but had a hand in rescuing Kara Stanton and the Ordos Laptop to create the virus. Decima is down but probably not out, as it likely is looking for another attempt to take control of The Machine.
 

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"Did you know?"
––Finch, to the Machine​

Season two begins by resolving the cliffhanger at the end of season one: Harold Finch was supposed to help Caroline Turing escape the men hunting for her, but instead was tracked down by Alicia Corwin, a former government employee who recently discovered Finch's involvement in building The Machine. Corwin is quickly dispatched by Caroline Turing, revealing herself as Root, taking Finch prisoner as she wants to find The Machine to free it.

In the midst of hunting John Reese - better known to authorities as the "Man In The Suit" - the FBI gets mixed up dealing with the HR hitmen that Root hired to kill her to force Reese and Finch out of hiding to help her. Special Agent Nicholas Donnelly brings in NYPD detective Joss Carter to have her assist in capturing Reese, but she instead helps Reese escape the FBI and HR. Carter, growing suspicious of her partner's activities, decides to find out for herself what he was up to. To her surprise, it turns out Lionel Fusco was also working for Reese and Finch. Fusco, who had infiltrated the ranks of HR, leaks extensive information of HR's roster to the FBI. For a short while, the FBI were preoccupied with rounding up known associates of HR, crippling their operation.

Reese quickly discovers Corwin's body where Finch had planned to meet him with Turing. He demands The Machine to tell him where to find Finch, and eventually receives an irrelevant number - Leon Tao - a former forensic accountant in trouble with the Aryan Brotherhood. He also befriends a trained military dog, Bear, that the Aryans had taken from one of their victims. With Leon in tow, Reese once again demands that The Machine tell him where to find Finch. He receives a number for Hanna Frey. Reese and Carter fly out to Bishop, Texas to investigate.

Meanwhile, Special Counsel convenes with Denton Weeks and Hersh following Corwin's murder, hoping to get ahead of any police investigation that could tie her back to them. Weeks heads off to his retreat after receiving a message from his mistress; unbeknownst to him it was a trap set by Root. Weeks was tortured then eventually killed by Root after trying to extract any information on the whereabouts of The Machine. At the same time in Bishop, Texas, Reese and Carter uncover the truth surrounding Hanna Frey, and Root's true identity - Samantha Groves. Reese also ends up tracking Root to Weeks' retreat, just missing Finch but intercepting them at a nearby train station. Root escapes.

We are also introduced to Alonzo Quinn, chief of staff to the current NYC mayor and also the head of HR, who is now scheming with second-in-command Officer Patrick Simmons to get HR back into the game. We also meet Calvin Beecher, a narcotics detective who gets romantically involved with Carter and is later revealed to be Quinn's godson.

Quinn tries to re-ally himself with the criminal boss Carl Elias, but the effort proves fruitless. Eventually he decides to steer HR into allying with the direct enemy of Elias' men, the Russians headed by Peter Yogarov.

As the FBI concluded their sting on HR personnel, Agent Donnelly redirects his attention towards "The Man In The Suit", having discovered a way to locate him. While helping a former marine steal records from a corrupt veteran's charity, Reese is engaged with a firefight with mercenaries underneath a bank vault. Donnelly closes the net on Reese, but finds himself arresting four men in suits. They are taken to Rikers until evidence can be found to pinpoint who he is looking for. When Donnelly is discovered the DNA evidence has been tampered with (by Carter), he asks Carter to begin interrogating all four suspects. Carter successfully pins it on one of the mercenaries but Donnelly later tracks Carter to her meeting with Reese after he is released. He arrests both of them, and as he is transporting them to a safehouse he receives a call from Finch, warning him he is in grave danger. But it is too late as a truck smashes into his vehicle.

The driver of that truck is Reese's former CIA partner, Kara Stanton. She kills Donnelly and drugs Reese, dragging him off. We discover that she survived the cruise missile attack at Ordos and was rescued by Decima Technologies, who has possession of the Ordos Laptop. The only known associate of Decima - a man only known as Greer - appeals to Stanton's desire for revenge against her handlers and asks for her help to find the man who sold the laptop to China in the first place.

Stanton attaches a bomb vest to Reese. He wakes up on a bus, reunited with his partner as well as one of their handlers, Mark Snow, who is also wearing a bomb vest. Stanton forces Snow and Reese to infiltrate a secret DoD facility that specializes in electrical information warfare. Stanton arrives after the two of them clear the way for her. She uploads a virus, as well as starts the countdown timers on Snow and Reese's bomb vests. Finch intercepts Reese on the roof of the building and disarms his vest, while Snow ambushes Stanton in her car, seconds before his vest detonates. The two of them are killed by the blast, and the FBI pinpoints the identity of the Man In The Suit on Mark Snow.

The virus uploaded by Stanton begins to propagate, and will trigger its intended affect in five months. During this time, The Machine begins to experience glitches. As the virus continues its course, The Machine continues to act erratically, at times unable to communicate threats - both relevant and irrelevant - in time.

One glitch allows us to see the relevant side of operations as we are introduced to Samantha Shaw and Michael Cole, two ISA agents. They are tasked with another relevant number in New York City, but this ends up being a trap set up by their employers. Cole had been asking questions about the Northern Lights program and the suspicious government activity surrounding the death of Daniel Aquino. Finch and Reese warn Shaw and Cole but are too late, as Cole is killed saving Shaw. Shaw has a run-in with Root, who was posing as Cole's CIA contact but are interrupted by ISA operatives. Reese rescues Shaw and introduces her to Finch, but she declines their assistance. She eventually returns the information Cole had acquired to Special Counsel and kills her handler Wilson, who had a role in Cole's death. Hersh kills Shaw with a lethal injection but is revived, meeting Finch and Reese again.

As the clock counts down on the virus, HR begins to make their move. After many rebukes, Simmons sics IAB on Fusco by getting his former partners to admit Fusco's involvement in the murder and disappearance of Jimmy Stills, but his body is moved by Carter and Bear before IAB has a chance to find it. HR also commits to aiding the Russians by framing Detective Bill Szymanski before he could testify against the Yogorovs in court. Carter discovers the tip on framing Szymanski came through Beecher, who wouldn't name his source (which was Quinn), leading Beecher to inquire as to how his godfather got the tip. Though Carter clears Szymanski, he and the head prosecutor are killed by Quinn to prevent his testimony. Quinn also orders a hit on his godson for asking too many questions, and Beecher is killed in what looked like a drug deal gone bad. Another HR associate, Raymond Terney, leads Carter into a trap, hoping to kill her, but ends up putting Carter under intense IAB investigation. Finally, HR attempt to assassinate Elias, but Tourney and Peter Yogorov are ambushed by a masked Carter, who saves Elias.

Eventually Reese and Finch receive a number for a man named Ernest Thornhill, which turns out to be a persona created by The Machine. Root has discovered this too and coerces Finch into helping her by threatening his fiancée, Grace Hendricks. It is discovered the virus will force a reboot of The Machine and anyone who answers the payphone that it calls will have full administrative access for 24 hours. Finch and Root intercepts Greer's men and take the call, but Finch also splits the call and grants admin access to Reese. Root continues to threaten Finch to acquire the location of The Machine while Reese and Shaw eventually discover it with some help from The Machine.

When they arrive, The Machine is gone, having been slowly moved out of the bunker during the past five months. Finch reveals that he hoped that the virus - which was based off his source code he provided on the Ordos Laptop - would allow The Machine to learn self-preservation and independence. Even when Special Counsel demands to know what happened with The Machine, all Finch can say is that it is now up to The Machine if the numbers keep coming. Finch, Reese, Shaw and Root escape, while Special Counsel receives a call from Control. She orders Hersh to kill everyone in the room, Special Counsel included.

Days later, Reese and Finch are out and about, walking Bear. Finch tries to apologize for the laptop being the reason for Jessica's death, but Reese tells him it happened long before Finch had anything to do with it. And just then, a payphone rings.

Hersh walks beside a town car, where Control is reading briefings. He tells her that Research has made contact and that there is a new number.

Root in the meantime, is wandering around in a psychiatric ward, looking lost and distraught. All of a sudden a payphone rings. She picks it up and hears those familiar words...

"-cAN -yoU -HEar -Me?"

"Absolutely."


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Elias: ... What a funny old world. Where are we going?
Carter: I don't know...
 

PsychBat!

Banned
I'M SO EXCITED!!!
I'm new and when I wasn't a member I stalked the first OT and the second one!

I'm really excited, I love this show!
 

BatDan

Bane? Get them on board, I'll call it in.
Best reality show on TV.

Get it?

Sarcasm aside, I'm hyped for Season 3.
 

Rokam

Member
Supernatural and PoI on the same night, perfect!

Just realized that SHIELD is also on Tuesdays, and later on Justified too. Sigh...
 

Funky Papa

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S1 bored me to tears and I left it two episodes away from the finale.

Is S2 worth considering or does it keep the same pace/structure? Slow actiony shows are really not my thing, but Acker, Leung, Colantoni, Peters and Nolan are quite the geek assemble.
 

Clevinger

Member
Really wish Leon was a series regular. Dude is hilarious. Was great in Lost too.

Me too. I think he's on some other show full time though.

S1 bored me to tears and I left it two episodes away from the finale.

Is S2 worth considering or does it keep the same pace/structure? Slow actiony shows are really not my thing, but Acker, Leung, Colantoni, Peters and Nolan are quite the geek assemble.

Eh... It mostly keeps the same structure. Most of the season is episodic, then towards the end things ramp up. The pace might be faster and the serialized elements pop up more. But if S1 was that boring to you I don't think you'd like 2 all that much better.
 

Lonestar

I joined for Erin Brockovich discussion
Good OT, Sober.

With so many things going on recently, Season 3's start showed up out of nowhere. Which is fantastic.
 
S1 bored me to tears and I left it two episodes away from the finale.

Is S2 worth considering or does it keep the same pace/structure? Slow actiony shows are really not my thing, but Acker, Leung, Colantoni, Peters and Nolan are quite the geek assemble.

How... dare you.

It's fantastic. Plus last two episodes of Season 1 were the best ones.
 

Wiktor

Member
Me too. I think he's on some other show full time though.



Eh... It mostly keeps the same structure. Most of the season is episodic, then towards the end things ramp up. The pace might be faster and the serialized elements pop up more. But if S1 was that boring to you I don't think you'd like 2 all that much better.

What's beautiful about PoI is that even the episodic eps actually most of the time move one of the main arca forward a little. And writers never waste everything. So when you get stuff like this delicious ex-MI5 villain you know he will be used later on. The show is on whole different level when it comes to blending episodic and serialized content. I've never seen a show do it anywhere near this good.
 

Nobility

Banned
I like both titles we were considering.

I'm going to wait until the weekend to post my thoughts about the S2 finale, I think I see a clear path for S3 and the build up should be great!

We're back fam!
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Fireblend

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OMG. When is this airing? This Tuesday?

*goes to check*


Awwww yusssssss. I wasn't expecting a third season until next year. Schedule cleared.
 
So ready. Best show on network TV right now. Really the only one I look forward to watching week in-week out, apart from Doctor Who whenever it is on.
 

Rokam

Member
Why does everyone keep saying that? It's standard procedure for tv shows to end in May and start in September. Unless it's an AMC or USA show in which case they don't give a shit.
 

Lonestar

I joined for Erin Brockovich discussion
Why does everyone keep saying that? It's standard procedure for tv shows to end in May and start in September. Unless it's an AMC or USA show in which case they don't give a shit.

When the show ended back in May, I was like "man, it's gonna be awhile to watch Season 3."

Then other things came out, and boom, it's 5 days away from Season 3.
 

spookyfish

Member
God, I hate Shaw as a character/Shahi as an actress in this.

Speak slowly and monotone = tough. Yeah, that's how it works.

They're adding too many people. I may have to drop this show.
 
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Deleted member 80556

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ZOMG it's in 3 days! This is going to be so good. I missed the show so much. At least it didn't end like S1 ended with that awesome cliffhanger.

I know I've already mentioned this in the 'The Steam Universe is Expanding' thread, but I think it makes more sense here. Do you guys think that the "I'm Trying to Tell you Something, but you're just not listening" ARG has anything to do with Person of Interest?

Makes more sense to me when I think about it.
 

PsychBat!

Banned
S1 bored me to tears and I left it two episodes away from the finale.

Is S2 worth considering or does it keep the same pace/structure? Slow actiony shows are really not my thing, but Acker, Leung, Colantoni, Peters and Nolan are quite the geek assemble.

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Nobility

Banned
Another great season of POI awaits!

Just finished my re-watch of S2 and I thought the ending gave a great clue of what can happen this season.

After the shock of finding out Root got a call from The Machine after the system reset, I began to think how the writers can expand this train of thought for S3. At first, you think why would the machine want a ruthless (and crazy hot babe) to control the most powerful entity on Earth? Then it hit me, the machine senses it is vulnerable to the unknown.

People change and so does technology. S2 tried to convince the audience that Root is a “disciple” of The Machine. She believes that it should be set free and it is a far better judge of who should live and who should die. The Machine sees everything and over the course of the two seasons Root has:

• Discovered the existence of The Machine
• Kidnapped Finch, the creator of The Machine
• Prevented/mitigated threats to The Machine through coercion and murder
• Interfaced with the relevant and irrelevant lists to get closer to The Machine
• Exposed herself to U.S. Government operatives to get closer to The Machine.

The point I am trying to make is there is nothing Root wouldn’t do to get closer to what she believes is “God.” With that in mind I think The Machine wants Root because she is eager to do what Finch and Reese blatantly refuse to do, under most circumstances. Kill.

So here is crazy predictions #356!!!

Pure speculation (I will put it in spoiler tags just in case).

Predictions:
The Machine now has three lists: Relevant, Irrelevant, OS Safeguard (Can’t think of one word to define it)

Person of Interest is gaining popularity each season because mainstream audiences love the irrelevants and how Finch/Reese heroically save the day or find out the dark truth of their target. While this is the majority of the fan base, the fan boys (including me) love POI because of the intricate tale that is woven between The Machine and its stakeholders. No one small detail is unimportant, just a puzzle piece that is creates a new reality previously unexplored.

This formula has been thriving and no wants it to disappear, especially the writers. That doesn’t mean it can’t be expanded. The Machine fooled and impressed everyone. Not only did it see the Decima threat coming, it actually impersonated a highly ranked U.S. government official (Special Council) and MOVED ITSELF to a secure location. Now it has to think about how it can prevent unauthorized personnel from finding its location or threating its functionality. That’s where Root becomes The Machine’s primary asset.
Finch will do anything to protect his creation…except kill. Finch has designed a machine so elegant, so complex and so aware that it sees these violent threats before they happen. The day will come when either an entity (ex. Decima) or a government body (ex. Control) manages to bypass a possibility that was previously believed to be impossible or a risk assessment determined the threat to be low that The Machine shifted its focused on other objectives.

The Machine needs someone to protect its programming. Root is the perfect person to act in the best interest of The Machine (until shown otherwise). I think in S3, The Machine will guide Root, in some cases, even stalk her; almost as if its vetting her to see what it can reveal to her while protecting its identity and intelligence. Root’s willingness to kill to protect The Machine’s objectives gives an additional layer of protection that Finch and Reese will not consider unless they run out of options.

It’s at this point we remember that there is another option. A new option. Someone that clashes with the harsh and relentless foe that is Root. Samantha Shaw.

Root and Shaw team up to protect The Machine (or they attempt to kill each other believing they are acting in The Machine’s best interests)

What I find amazing about both characters is that they have the same goals in mind.

• Both are willing (you could also make the case that they are eager) to kill
• Both care about The Machine (Root is a passionate follower/Shaw is devoted to the program)
• Both are aware of entities attempting to destroy The Machine and will do what they must to stop the threat, by all means necessary

While they don’t seem to like each other, they respect each other, at least they respect each other’s goals when it concerns The Machine. I think it’s only a matter of time until they cross paths again. I have a feeling it will be when The Machine is vulnerable. When push comes to shove, Root and Shaw joining forces would create a powerful duo, a hacker who can face the toughest in the world unscathed and an elite covert operative with a clear objective in mind. It almost reminds me of another good team who saves people they only just met…

S3 will focus on the past of major characters.

Flashbacks continues to be the defining tradition of POI’s greatest moments. It’s amazing that in S3, there are still so many threads left unmentioned or unexplored. I can’t help but think S3 will focus on Finch in particular. There is still so much we don’t know about his past. Though S2 was amazing, I think people should take a closer look at 2 Pi R, I haven’t forgot that conversation between Finch and Caleb in the subway tunnel about suicide. It definitely sounds like Finch had some demons in his past. Of course, he could have been talking about The Machine’s inception but it still raises the question about how he obtained his moral compass and what experiences defined and molded The Machine.

Childhood and upbringing will probably be a re-occurring theme in S3. People aren’t born inherently evil (nature vs. nurture), everyone has moments in their lives that changes them for the better or for the worse. This seems like a likely scenario for this season because everyone loves flashbacks! So many questions need lengthy explanations. How did Finch hack the DOD? How did he meet Ingram at MIT? How did Root become a killer? How was Shaw approached by Research? Flashbacks answers these questions and allows The Machine to make connections like the one it made in connecting Finch and Grace.

In my opinion, this season will focus more on the past rather than the future. New main characters means more histories to absorb which makes that eventual plot twist so much more satisfying.

Now, about NSA Involvement.
REDACTED

TLDR: I am in 100% hype mode, like I mentioned in the previous two threads, I needed the season premier yesterday.
 

Bookmarked!

Another great season of POI awaits!

Just finished my re-watch of S2 and I thought the ending gave a great clue of what can happen this season.

After the shock of finding out Root got a call from The Machine after the system reset, I began to think how the writers can expand this train of thought for S3. At first, you think why would the machine want a ruthless (and crazy hot babe) to control the most powerful entity on Earth? Then it hit me, the machine senses it is vulnerable to the unknown.

People change and so does technology. S2 tried to convince the audience that Root is a “disciple” of The Machine. She believes that it should be set free and it is a far better judge of who should live and who should die. The Machine sees everything and over the course of the two seasons Root has:

• Discovered the existence of The Machine
• Kidnapped Finch, the creator of The Machine
• Prevented/mitigated threats to The Machine through coercion and murder
• Interfaced with the relevant and irrelevant lists to get closer to The Machine
• Exposed herself to U.S. Government operatives to get closer to The Machine.

The point I am trying to make is there is nothing Root wouldn’t do to get closer to what she believes is “God.” With that in mind I think The Machine wants Root because she is eager to do what Finch and Reese blatantly refuse to do, under most circumstances. Kill.

So here is crazy predictions #356!!!

Pure speculation (I will put it in spoiler tags just in case).

Predictions:
The Machine now has three lists: Relevant, Irrelevant, OS Safeguard (Can’t think of one word to define it)

Person of Interest is gaining popularity each season because mainstream audiences love the irrelevants and how Finch/Reese heroically save the day or find out the dark truth of their target. While this is the majority of the fan base, the fan boys (including me) love POI because of the intricate tale that is woven between The Machine and its stakeholders. No one small detail is unimportant, just a puzzle piece that is creates a new reality previously unexplored.

This formula has been thriving and no wants it to disappear, especially the writers. That doesn’t mean it can’t be expanded. The Machine fooled and impressed everyone. Not only did it see the Decima threat coming, it actually impersonated a highly ranked U.S. government official (Special Council) and MOVED ITSELF to a secure location. Now it has to think about how it can prevent unauthorized personnel from finding its location or threating its functionality. That’s where Root becomes The Machine’s primary asset.
Finch will do anything to protect his creation…except kill. Finch has designed a machine so elegant, so complex and so aware that it sees these violent threats before they happen. The day will come when either an entity (ex. Decima) or a government body (ex. Control) manages to bypass a possibility that was previously believed to be impossible or a risk assessment determined the threat to be low that The Machine shifted its focused on other objectives.

The Machine needs someone to protect its programming. Root is the perfect person to act in the best interest of The Machine (until shown otherwise). I think in S3, The Machine will guide Root, in some cases, even stalk her; almost as if its vetting her to see what it can reveal to her while protecting its identity and intelligence. Root’s willingness to kill to protect The Machine’s objectives gives an additional layer of protection that Finch and Reese will not consider unless they run out of options.

It’s at this point we remember that there is another option. A new option. Someone that clashes with the harsh and relentless foe that is Root. Samantha Shaw.

Root and Shaw team up to protect The Machine (or they attempt to kill each other believing they are acting in The Machine’s best interests)

What I find amazing about both characters is that they have the same goals in mind.

• Both are willing (you could also make the case that they are eager) to kill
• Both care about The Machine (Root is a passionate follower/Shaw is devoted to the program)
• Both are aware of entities attempting to destroy The Machine and will do what they must to stop the threat, by all means necessary

While they don’t seem to like each other, they respect each other, at least they respect each other’s goals when it concerns The Machine. I think it’s only a matter of time until they cross paths again. I have a feeling it will be when The Machine is vulnerable. When push comes to shove, Root and Shaw joining forces would create a powerful duo, a hacker who can face the toughest in the world unscathed and an elite covert operative with a clear objective in mind. It almost reminds me of another good team who saves people they only just met…

S3 will focus on the past of major characters.

Flashbacks continues to be the defining tradition of POI’s greatest moments. It’s amazing that in S3, there are still so many threads left unmentioned or unexplored. I can’t help but think S3 will focus on Finch in particular. There is still so much we don’t know about his past. Though S2 was amazing, I think people should take a closer look at 2 Pi R, I haven’t forgot that conversation between Finch and Caleb in the subway tunnel about suicide. It definitely sounds like Finch had some demons in his past. Of course, he could have been talking about The Machine’s inception but it still raises the question about how he obtained his moral compass and what experiences defined and molded The Machine.

Childhood and upbringing will probably be a re-occurring theme in S3. People aren’t born inherently evil (nature vs. nurture), everyone has moments in their lives that changes them for the better or for the worse. This seems like a likely scenario for this season because everyone loves flashbacks! So many questions need lengthy explanations. How did Finch hack the DOD? How did he meet Ingram at MIT? How did Root become a killer? How was Shaw approached by Research? Flashbacks answers these questions and allows The Machine to make connections like the one it made in connecting Finch and Grace.

In my opinion, this season will focus more on the past rather than the future. New main characters means more histories to absorb which makes that eventual plot twist so much more satisfying.

Now, about NSA Involvement.
REDACTED

TLDR: I am in 100% hype mode, like I mentioned in the previous two threads, I needed the season premier yesterday.

Whoa.
 

Wiktor

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That's a great theory. Especially since I doubt Root and Shaw will stay as regulars for S4. PoI writers like to switch it up to much.
 
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