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To me, this indicates Kanji wasn't gay, cause ATLUS would have made him something like this.
If P5 is any indication, they aren't.
To me, this indicates Kanji wasn't gay, cause ATLUS would have made him something like this.
If P5 is any indication, they aren't.
I don't want to be "lol Japan" considering Japan is making tons of otome games for audiences that want that kind of stuff and has many LGBT creators making boys love/girls love but Okama stuff is a strictly Japanese form of shittiness that one would hope would have went away in the 80s
I don't want to be "lol Japan" considering Japan is making tons of otome games for audiences that want that kind of stuff and has many LGBT creators making boys love/girls love but Okama stuff is a strictly Japanese form of shittiness that one would hope would have went away in the 80s
Persona 5 hasn't moved forward at all in almost 10 years since the last game. It's a fucking embarrassment and it's what keeps me from continuing.
I agree that Persona 5 could have done better in this subject, but its silly to bring it up as a big deal since it does a better job than 90% of games out there. Its a series thats always been big on inclusion (P2 and P4 come to mind), specially coming from Japan. Dont let perfect be the enemy of good.
Its weird and it happens a lot, as soon as one game tries to do something different, people complain for it not being different ENOUGH yet no issues when most other games dont even try.
lol fucking hell. That's worse than the "Funky Student" shit.
If P5 is any indication, they aren't.
So Japan likes 'yuri and yaoi' but not gays? Are there any decent articles that dive in this?
Wonder if it's like how in the US, the top searches on porn sites in conservative areas typically involve lesbians
So Japan likes 'yuri and yaoi' but not gays? Are there any decent articles that dive in this?
90% of yaoi stuff is schlick-bait fantasy for girls by girls.
To me, this indicates Kanji wasn't gay, cause ATLUS would have made him something like this.
No! It's precisely why we should critique Persona 5 because it's a game that comes really close to getting it and then doesn't. I love the series and the only way it can grow is through thoughtful criticism like this.
Yeah, that's the character I think. I only remember from the GB Endurance Run but I thought it was pretty clear he was gay. That was a few years ago, though.
It's weird after dealing with the sexuality of several characters in Persona 4 in a very mature and interesting way, we'd go back to the dark ages with Persona 5.
Also, can we stop using the phrase "privileged?" No one has ever been called privileged and not taken it offensively. It doesn't foster open discussion or introspection, it undermines anything that person has ever achieved and shuts them down.
Kanji was never explicitly said to be gay or even bi, though you could interpret his character as being the latter.Didn't Persona 4 have a gay character? I don't think it should be a requirement that a game about marginalizaed youth has to have an LGBTQ character.
FUNKY STUDENT WAS AMAZINGlol fucking hell. That's worse than the "Funky Student" shit.
So Japan likes 'yuri and yaoi' but not gays? Are there any decent articles that dive in this?
Wonder if it's like how in the US, the top searches on porn sites in conservative areas typically involve lesbians
I disagree with their take on makoto specifically. So because she lives in a big, she can't know what it means to be alone, and dying inside because of pressure to succeed?
Azusa Kido. She's gone with Hashino to Studio Zero I think.
The way Ann is treated through the whole game is just... the fucking worst too. Fun game, but not half as "woke" as it thinks it is.
Forgot about Project Re Fantasy. Obviously a while off but I'm excited to see if breaking from the shackles of Persona (irony) means the writers can break new ground. I should really try and get through and FeMC run one of these days...
No! It's precisely why we should critique Persona 5 because it's a game that comes really close to getting it and then doesn't. I love the series and the only way it can grow is through thoughtful criticism like this.
This isn't the Rainbow Coalition. There are marginalized underdogs who aren't homosexual, and homosexuals who are in no way marginalized. Fatlus can tell whatever story they want.
This is exactly why I'm excited that Hashino & co are moving on to a new title, leaving persona for a new team @ Atlus.
Hopefully the new team doesn't go out of their way to treat LGBTQ people as a joke.
Losing your strongest creative voice/journeyman director does not usually improve a series' fortunes.
The way Ann is treated through the whole game is just... the fucking worst too. Fun game, but not half as "woke" as it thinks it is.
I think that's fair, but in the context of what P5 is about its a pretty glaring omission that there isn't an LGBT character or option. And even Fire Emblem Fates let you have an LGBT option but I think that may have just been man/man and not woman/woman. Don't remember, just remember Niles being romanceable as the male avatar.
The game in question(innocent sin) only came overseas in an psp remake that can be bought for ps vita at a rather cheap price during promotions and psp emulation is a thing so, yeah i expect people that are really engaged with the series to play it, espacially considering that p4g is a vita game. It also has the very same thing you talked about in your spoiler tags, it's awesome.From what I've heard they actually did well with LGBT there yeah! But can I play an old ass PS1 game? The answer may surprise you.
Really hope I'll push through and give them a shot sometime. Plus dontcha fight Hitler in one of the older ones?
This is exactly why I'm excited that Hashino & co are moving on to a new title, leaving persona for a new team @ Atlus.
Hopefully the new team doesn't go out of their way to treat LGBTQ people as a joke.
Haven't finished P5 yet, but fuck those homophobic jokes
Fates also had a character whose only character quirk was that she was attracted to other women. She can only S-rank men.
In their Japanese supports, the male avatar spikes her drink with a magic powder that makes her attracted to men.
Depicting Hashino as some of supporter of fervent gay basher is painting with a broad brush. You may as well throw practically all of Japanese media under the bus too.
Y'all need to get some perspective. This all or nothing shit is embarrassing.
Yep. Here's a good article on it.
http://www.zam.com/article/1453/persona-5-could-say-a-lot-more-if-it-didnt-constantly-objectify-ann
welcome to gay
Fates also had a character whose only character quirk was that she was attracted to other women. She can only S-rank men.
In their Japanese supports, the male avatar spikes her drink with a magic powder that makes her attracted to men.
the truth? it's the least 'woke' persona game, period. i enjoyed it for the gameplay, but the whole 'teen crusaders for truth & justice fighting corrupt adults' theme was seriously dismal, unimaginative, & heavy-handed. not to mention, just plain corny ...
it's a very good game. but i was & still am disappointed with it. for me, story/character -wise, a big step back from what came before...
I agree that Persona 5 could have done better in this subject, but its silly to bring it up as a big deal since it does a better job than 90% of games out there. Its a series thats always been big on inclusion (P2 and P4 come to mind), specially coming from Japan. Dont let perfect be the enemy of good.
Its weird and it happens a lot, as soon as one game tries to do something different, people complain for it not being different ENOUGH yet no issues when most other games dont even try.
My interpretation of Kanji's character and story arc is that straight guys are allowed to have and enjoy traditionally stereotypically female hobbies without being made fun or being called gay for it.Didn't Persona 4 have a gay character? I don't think it should be a requirement that a game about marginalizaed youth has to have an LGBTQ character.
IS is getting better at least.Fates also had a character whose only character quirk was that she was attracted to other women. She can only S-rank men.
In their Japanese supports, the male avatar spikes her drink with a magic powder that makes her attracted to men.
lul wut?
I agree with the ladder (sic) statement but the former....woof.
The beach scene in Persona is possibly one of my most hated scenes in videogames. Which sucks, because I otherwise love the game. There's the 1 dimensional gay stereotypes (which even then is giving their "characterisation" too much credit) of course, but it's also when the oogaling of the women in Persona 5 is arguably at its worst. It's the culmination of everything wrong with that sort of anime-esque comedy.
If the P3P writer is actually involved in the studio zero game, then consider me back on board, because her influence was sorely missed in Persona 5. UGH THE BEACH SCENE. THE BEACH SCENE! If Persona 5 Crimson just cuts it out entirely, it would already be a vast improvement. Easy 10/10 remake, I'd buy the limited edition.
...I swear I actually love the game.
Azusa Kido. She's gone with Hashino to Studio Zero I think.
I mean, we'll see in 10 years, but I'm not expecting the social reform in japanese culture that you seem to be hoping for.
Depicting Hashino as some sort of fervent gay basher is painting with a broad brush. You may as well throw practically all of Japanese media under the bus too.
Y'all need to get some perspective. This all or nothing shit is embarrassing.
Not all of it, but the BIG mass media stuff? Absolutely. Hollywood is generally the same way, they've just been making strides because they've found out that people can engage with homosexual relationships on the silver screen. That being said, when was the last time you heard a brokeback mountain joke? Probably wasn't that long ago.
If P5 is any indication, they aren't.
Depicting Hashino as some sort of fervent gay basher is painting with a broad brush. You may as well throw practically all of Japanese media under the bus too.
Y'all need to get some perspective. This all or nothing shit is embarrassing.
idk Akechi was pretty gay-coded.
But in all seriousness, Lala Escargot was so fantastic of a character that I almost forgive Atlus for those two rando predators.
idk Akechi was pretty gay-coded.
But in all seriousness, Lala Escargot was so fantastic of a character that I almost forgive Atlus for those two rando predators.
But don't they make fun of gay characters in P5? Seems like the headline should be taken/read as "you can't have a story about marginalized characters while portraying other marginalized groups"Didn't Persona 4 have a gay character? I don't think it should be a requirement that a game about marginalizaed youth has to have an LGBTQ character.