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[Daniel_Mallorca1985]

timestamp: 11:00

Thought this was worth a thread as there’s lots of speculation about this

"The truth of it is the regulatory process took so long and there was so much uncertainty until last week, that our team hasn't had the time to work with ABK to work on the back catalogue work. But now that it has closed, there is work being done"

He also mentions the 2024 date is accurate for gamepass drops. He also confirms there is NOT any surprise drops coming anytime soon. So no ABK games this year.

He knows it’s a bummer but unfortunately that is the situation and unlike what some consumers think there isn’t just a switch to get these games all on gamepass.

 

[Kataploom]

Hmmmm but GAF told me they increased the ABK games prices because they want to FORCE people into Game Pass... Someone is lying here.

OT: I just want WoW in Game Pass... I'll probably get into it again if I don't have to pay an monthly fee to play only that game.

 

[SHA]

Who wants that?, it's 2023, that would definitely decrease their worth dramatically.

 

[Z O N E]

Kind of obvious to be honest.

Wait until everything is up and running and Bobby Kotick is out of the picture and then start the process.

 

[Rac3r]

This fat fuck doesn't know anything, just says whatever he thinks is obvious at the time.

Big ol Jez, doesn't know shit, just as I said.

 

[Mattyp]

A shame but considering it’s nearly November and the deal of this magnitude it’s expected.

 

[Fbh]

Kinda makes me wonder why there "isn't just a switch" to put games on Gamepass.

I guess on PC you basically need to make a separate version you download and install from the Gamepass app. But on console I can't imagine it's that hard to have a system that's like "if user has an active gamepass subscription he can download and play this for free".

 

[JohnnyFootball]

Hmmmm but GAF told me they increased the ABK games prices because they want to FORCE people into Game Pass... Someone is lying here.

OT: I just want WoW in Game Pass... I'll probably get into it again if I don't have to pay an monthly fee to play only that game.

You're not getting World of Warcraft on gamepass. There is no way even MS would ruin that revenue stream, especially when ESO still has a subscription.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

Personally, the one thing I'd like to see happen right away is that those who have Battle.net accounts can have their games moved to Xbox and/or Steam.

Do that MS and that will go a long way to making me very happy at the start.

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

Kinda makes me wonder why there "isn't just a switch" to put games on Gamepass.

I guess because ABK games have no PC Gamepass versions and were mainly living in a different Battle Net launcher? Would not be surprised that PC versions need to be ported with Xbox Live support and so on. Not to mention ABK has a lot of licensed games.

 

[Trogdor1123]

I’m still shocked at how much they paid for this. It seems fairly overvalued to me.

 

[VideoGameEnjoyer]

Big ol Jez, doesn't know shit, just as I said.

Dude just needs to get the clown makeup and wig and get it over with.

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

I’m still shocked at how much they paid for this. It seems fairly overvalued to me.

At one point of time, ABK acquisition would have cost over 100b.

 

[Kataploom]

You're not getting World of Warcraft on gamepass. There is no way even MS would ruin that revenue stream, especially when ESO still has a subscription.

People still don't get MS is not about "revenues" in short terms, but engagement. All WoW players in Game Pass just for WoW, that most basically don't use the service but only for WoW would be a big win for them. They'll think on revenues after they "dominate" the market, that's as I see they see the thing

 

[Trogdor1123]

At one point of time, ABK acquisition would cost over 100b.

That boggles my mind even more. If cod were to fizzle , that is so much riding on a single franchise.

 

[Hestar69]

Hmmmm but GAF told me they increased the ABK games prices because they want to FORCE people into Game Pass... Someone is lying here.

OT: I just want WoW in Game Pass... I'll probably get into it again if I don't have to pay an monthly fee to play only that game.

thats all I want too.. Give me WoW on game pass! I've been itching to play it again but 15 a month still! then all the expansions you have to buy.

 

[Kataploom]

thats all I want too.. Give me WoW on game pass! I've been itching to play it again but 15 a month still! then all the expansions you have to buy.

I guess your problem (and mine, and some friend's too) is that you don't want to pay for the sub just to not play or to get back your nostalgia fix quickly and then forget about it then feel the money was kinda wasted. Game Pass would fix that for most players in the same situation.

 

[IDKFA]

People still don't get MS is not about "revenues" in short terms, but engagement. All WoW players in Game Pass just for WoW, that most basically don't use the service but only for WoW would be a big win for them. They'll think on revenues after they "dominate" the market, that's as I see they see the thing

Isn't WOW cheaper than Gamepass per month?

 

[Riky]

Interesting interview, he states that this Call Of Duty beta exclusives will become a thing of the past as it doesn't help the game.
He also says that if teams want to go back to revisit old franchises he will support them as well as ways of bringing older games to Xbox.
He sounds pretty excited by the future.

 

[VideoGameEnjoyer]

People still don't get MS is not about "revenues" in short terms, but engagement. All WoW players in Game Pass just for WoW, that most basically don't use the service but only for WoW would be a big win for them. They'll think on revenues after they "dominate" the market, that's as I see they see the thing

Continue to burn infinite cash until people are so immersed in the service that they can't escape. And that's when we gouge them!

Don't understand why people aren't excited about how Microsoft is conducting their business.

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

That boggles my mind even more. If cod were to fizzle , that is so much riding on a single franchise.

ABK market cap had a lot to do with King, one of the biggest mobile publishers in the world. Remember how much Zynga cost. And King's profits are much higher than Zynga's (though it was even losing money at point or something). I think King will be around 30b in this deal. Then we have Activision, which is probably 25-20b by itself. And Blizzard is 15b at best.

And also we should consider the premium. So its actual evaluation is smaller, it is just premium is around 40% or something.

 

[knguyen]

By the end of next year, gamepass will be $29.99 for PC only and $39.99 for ultimate. Also add $4.99/month to have the ability to download patches 3 days earlier.

 

[Kataploom]

Isn't WOW cheaper than Gamepass per month?

I thought it was $15 like Game Pass Ultimate, but they lowered it to $12.

Even if they lowered the price, you can add WoW to Game Pass and keep the regular WoW-only option and see what the market prefers. Game Pass a $10 option anyway.

Continue to burn infinite cash until people are so immersed service that they can't escape. And that's when we gouge them!

Don't understand why people aren't excited about how Microsoft is conducting their business.

Well, for one they won't dominate the market or create a monopoly no matter how much money they burn, Nintendo and some others ain't no joke and not for purchase so it's ok to have options.

I support them as long as there are options.

 

[DaGwaphics]

You're not getting World of Warcraft on gamepass. There is no way even MS would ruin that revenue stream, especially when ESO still has a subscription.

I would honestly hope that would be something they would leave out, tbh. I don't want any of the GP content budget getting funneled into subscription MMO games.

 

[dem]

Amusing how they act like bringing stuff to GamePass is some large undertaking.

 

[Three]

I like how they act like bringing stuff to GamePass is some large undertaking.

Yeah, guy was making deals with third parties like EE, nvidia and Nintendo regarding Activision IP. You're telling me his hands were tied with trying to get the game on gamepass until recently?

It's more likely that they will ride the Christmas period out because they expect a gamepass influx regardless and it was beneficial for them to spread the back catalogue content into 2024s weak months. They would have milked CoD and D4 sales enough by then too.

 

[ByWatterson]

 

[DeceptiveAlarm]

You're not getting World of Warcraft on gamepass. There is no way even MS would ruin that revenue stream, especially when ESO still has a subscription.

The only thing I could see is base game and maybe the current expansion. You will still be paying the sub.

 

[Negotiator101]

Big ol Jez, doesn't know shit, just as I said.

You called it, give yourself a big pat on the back.

 

[Matsuchezz]

Interesting interview, he states that this Call Of Duty beta exclusives will become a thing of the past as it doesn't help the game.
He also says that if teams want to go back to revisit old franchises he will support them as well as ways of bringing older games to Xbox.
He sounds pretty excited by the future.

Yes, but then again this is the guy that got excited when Halo Infinite was unveiled and he was ok with the state the game was in and ready to be released. He was excited when Redfall was released and he was ok with the quality of it. And then again this is the same guy that makes empty promises. So his excitement means only disgrace and sad faces for the green rats... sigh...

 

[Negotiator101]

Yes, but then again this is the guy that got excited when Halo Infinite was unveiled and he was ok with the state the game was in and ready to be released. He was excited when Redfall was released and he was ok with the quality of it. And then again this is the same guy that make empty promises. So his excitement means only disgrace and sad faces for the green rats... sigh...

Didn't both those games get delayed? Especially 343i they were given a significant amount of time to get it right, game was good as well, Redfall wasn't fit I agree about that.

 

[Portugeezer]

Bullshit. They want that COD money this year.

 

[newtypepilot]

xbox on Jan 1, 2024: we are happy to announce that our entire activistion blizzard lineup will be available on gamepass effective immediately!!!!

 

[adamsapple]

Amusing how they act like bringing stuff to GamePass is some large undertaking.

It's not about the scope of undertaking, everyone has been asking about it over social media. Hence his need to clarify.

NGL I would have liked some content dropped before but ah well, I can wait.

 

[MarkMe2525]

It's Phil with ONE L. Don't disrespect the leader of the "good guy gaming movement" (or the GGGM as i like to call it) like that.

 

[Spyxos]

Not really surprising, Bethesda games took a while before the first games landed on Gamepass and then not even all of them.

 

[Iced Arcade]

Got to set up that Activision channel.


Lol 2023 is pretty much wrapped anyway sooo not surprised.

 

[Three]

It's not about the scope of undertaking, everyone has been asking about it over social media. Hence his need to clarify.

NGL I would have liked some content dropped before but ah well, I can wait.

He clarified by acting like it's a huge undertaking.

 

[adamsapple]

He clarified by acting like it's a huge undertaking.

He says it's because of the acquisition taking longer than expected, they didn't have time to sort it out with the Activision teams because of uncertainty as late as the week of closing. I doubt they have to author different game versions just for game pass.

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Heisenberg007 bringing in something from another topic, you said Tom knew about the acquisition date month(s) ago, Phil is directly contradicting that here when he says that they were uncertain about it as late as the week-of closing.

I doubt Tom has enough sway to know regulatory results months in advance.

 

[Three]

He says it's because of the acquisition taking longer than expected, they didn't have time to sort it out with the Activision teams because of uncertainty as late as the week of closing. I doubt they have to author different game versions just for game pass.

"our team hasn't had the time to work with ABK to work on the back catalogue work. But now that it has closed, there is work being done"

He's acting like it's a large undertaking that would take until next year. The reason he needed to clarify is not relevant to him acting like it's a huge undertaking.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

I’m still shocked at how much they paid for this. It seems fairly overvalued to me.

Microsoft is like Saudi Arabia, once you have infinity money, no price is too high to pay

The Saudis literally bought professional golf. Like, the entire sport. It's nothing to them. Microsoft is just the same way

 

[Mowcno]

Not really surprising, Bethesda games took a while before the first games landed on Gamepass and then not even all of them.

The Bethesda acquisition was completed March 9th 2021 and 20 Bethesda games were added to gamepass on March 12th 2021. It took three days.

Officially Welcoming Bethesda to Team Xbox - Xbox Wire

Publisher of iconic gaming franchises will expand Xbox’s diverse portfolio on Xbox Game Pass This is an exciting day for Xbox. Today we officially complete the acquisition of ZeniMax Media, parent company of Bethesda Softworks. It’s an honor to welcome the eight incredibly talented development...

news.xbox.com

20 Bethesda Games from the World’s Most Iconic Franchises Available in Xbox Game Pass Tomorrow - Xbox Wire

We’ve always been fans, but now we’re family As we shared earlier this week, we’ve officially welcomed ZeniMax Media and Bethesda to the Xbox family, adding even more incredible talent, creative diversity, and beloved gaming franchises to an already stacked Xbox lineup. You might be wondering...

news.xbox.com

 

[Spyxos]

The Bethesda acquisition was completed March 9th 2022 and 20 Bethesda games were added to gamepass on March 12th 2022. It took three days.

Officially Welcoming Bethesda to Team Xbox - Xbox Wire

Publisher of iconic gaming franchises will expand Xbox’s diverse portfolio on Xbox Game Pass This is an exciting day for Xbox. Today we officially complete the acquisition of ZeniMax Media, parent company of Bethesda Softworks. It’s an honor to welcome the eight incredibly talented development...

news.xbox.com

20 Bethesda Games from the World’s Most Iconic Franchises Available in Xbox Game Pass Tomorrow - Xbox Wire

We’ve always been fans, but now we’re family As we shared earlier this week, we’ve officially welcomed ZeniMax Media and Bethesda to the Xbox family, adding even more incredible talent, creative diversity, and beloved gaming franchises to an already stacked Xbox lineup. You might be wondering...

news.xbox.com

Huh, I could have sworn there was nothing there for a long time. Maybe I've been waiting for certain games. Well in any case I was wrong.

 

[adamsapple]

Huh, I could have sworn there was nothing there for a long time. Maybe I've been waiting for certain games. Well in any case I was wrong.

Yeah they did batches for Zenimax stuff. First batch after acquisition then they waited till summer for the next games.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

The only thing I could see is base game and maybe the current expansion. You will still be paying the sub.

I know everyone thinks that MS is going to put and give away everything on Gamepass, but they aren't going to pointlessly kill a significant revenue stream. MS did buy ABK to make a profit.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

I know everyone thinks that MS is going to put and give away everything on Gamepass, but they aren't going to pointlessly kill a significant revenue stream. MS did buy ABK to make a profit.

They did not. MS is a company which literally brings in $80 billion a year in profit. They could not give the tiniest fragment of a shit how much ABK will or will not make them. Ever.

 

[VideoGameEnjoyer]

They did not. MS is a company which literally brings in $80 billion a year in profit. They could not give the tiniest fragment of a shit how much ABK will or will not make them. Ever.

Business major, eh?

 

[ShadyAcshuns]

I wonder why?

 

[JohnnyFootball]

They did not. MS is a company which literally brings in $80 billion a year in profit. They could not give the tiniest fragment of a shit how much ABK will or will not make them. Ever.

They did not. MS is a company which literally brings in $80 billion a year in profit. They could not give the tiniest fragment of a shit how much ABK will or will not make them. Ever.

Yeah,they don’t make $80 billion by being a fucking charity.

 

[Harlock]

It will not help xbox in this xmas.