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PlayStation has 21 Million PlayStation Plus Subscribers
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Omnistalgic
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Well not 80% at all really. Some people don't care about online that much. My point is, it's an insignificant amount of money to a lot of people, Sony read the market correctly and adopted a policy to make them more $$.
You think a 64GB iPhone actually cost $900 to make? It's just about value perception, it's different for every consumer.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
I agree. Same here!
Neuromancer
Member
They didn't take anyone by the balls. They offered a service and many people bought it because they thought it would be worth the money.
Caayn
Member
How would you describe suddenly locking a popular free feature behind a paywall?
Neuromancer
Member
Good business.
Stephen_drewz
Member
And in Australia with a 100mbit fibre connection it still only downloads around 1-2mb/s on Ethernet if i am lucky. The Witcher 3(44gb) took nearly 2 full days to download. Pathetic.
Steam, Battle.net, Origin, even uPlay all max my connection.
Steam, Battle.net, Origin, even uPlay all max my connection.
Lister
Banned
Lol, do you work for Sony?
Omnistalgic
Member
would be dope...I think a lot of PS4 people would try out Vue if it was part of PS+
I think Sony actually had a survey out not too long ago asking aobut improvements and additions peopled wanted for PS+ and a discount to PS Vue was an option. So who know's, it could be coming down the line sometime. Maybe when the service is on more devices and their channel selection has been more fleshed out and features brought up to snuff.
They already offer PS+ discounts on extra Vue channel packages, like Starz and stuff like that, I could see discounts expanding to the service itself eventually.
I'm hoping they can get HBO to jump in for a extra add on like the Starz bundle. I'd jump on that.
because they changed from free online play to paid online play, after they'd already got people hooked with free play for 7 years.
Nightengale
Member
Not sure what you're trying to say here?
My point was that 50% have proven to be a stable assumption ratio of no of PS+ subs vs PS4 install base, since it maintained 50% even at 10mil PS4s, 20mil PS4s or 40mil PS4s.
travisbickle
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They released a new product, with new games that required paid online. PS3 is still free online, or are you suggesting online play is so addictive people are unable to not spend $500+ on new tech and yearly subscriptions to fulfil their need?
Neuromancer
Member
Nope. I didn't realize you have to be a secret shill for a company, in order to recognize that they did something smart and are making a lot of money from it.
Caayn
Member
Aye.
From a business perspective it certainly was. Even the way they announced it was genius. Masked by the story of no XB1 like DRM.
However from a consumer perspective it's similar to being grabbed by the balls.
endlessflood
Member
I'm in Australia on a 110Mbps EuroDOCSIS 3.0 cable connection, and it completely maxes my connection at roughly 14 MB/s.
BladeoftheImmortal
Member
Someone tell me what MAU means.
As of May 22, PS4's sold-trough numbers were over 40 mil. I presume that PS4 is around 41.5 mil. sold-trough now.
unapersson
Member
They'd been taught by Microsoft that consumers like being grabbed by the balls and will defend it quite robustly versus a free service.
It also seems to give a competitive advantage if you have the larger ecosystem, as consumers aren't necessarily willing to pay for two almost identical services.
So not necessarily good for us, but was almost inevitable after what happened last generation.
timothyonfire
Member
Nice to see the sales where they are. I stopped caring about the free games (although they do offer some good titles, just have a massive backlog) as of recently so I currently only subscribe so my girlfriend can play ESO.
Caayn
Member
True, and we've indeed got MS, and the users who defended it, to blame for that.
This also plays a part, I can personally vouch for it.
I used to have both PS+ and XBLG. I dropped PS+ as I didn't saw any added value at keeping both subscriptions and as I had more friends on the XB1 than I do on PS4. Right now I'd drop XBLG as well if a) my friends go to PC or b) multiplayer becomes free.
DasPenguin
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Like someone already said, this has become an urban myth by now. How does it suck? I was 360 player during last generation and moved to PS4 this gen. Granted, I don't play as much as I used to, but I've had zero issues during the first 12 months owning the system. Like none at all. Seems to work just fine to me.
The "jumping the shark" moment for me came when LocoRoco Cocoreccho went into the Plus lineup in May. A fucking interactive screensaver from 2007. What. Don't get me wrong, I loved LocoRoco on the PSP back then, but LocoRoco Cocoreccho doesn't even really count as a game.
A lot of bitterness in this thread. While it does suck that online mp switched to requiring PS+, it was bound to happen. I would say psn is far closer in quality to xbl today than ever during last gen, and I think most people would agree. Presumably this is because Sony had invested in psn now that everyone who uses it is paying for it, which is pretty much what they said at e3 2013. And yeah there are people who still have problems, but overall things have gotten much better.
Furthermore, for those who buy a few games a year and pay full price for them, it sucks that you don't get the full benefits of the platform. However PS+ easily saves me more than the upfront cost each year. I don't know the exact savings per title, but $3~4 per $20+ game on sale adds up fast when there's a pretty good sale most weeks. I bought something like 8 games over the past 2-3 weeks, and I'm sure the PS+ discount saved me at least $20 (from the non-ps+ price). With almost zero effort you can get PS+ for $40/year, or ~$35 if you are patient and diligent. It pays for itself in no time.
Furthermore, for those who buy a few games a year and pay full price for them, it sucks that you don't get the full benefits of the platform. However PS+ easily saves me more than the upfront cost each year. I don't know the exact savings per title, but $3~4 per $20+ game on sale adds up fast when there's a pretty good sale most weeks. I bought something like 8 games over the past 2-3 weeks, and I'm sure the PS+ discount saved me at least $20 (from the non-ps+ price). With almost zero effort you can get PS+ for $40/year, or ~$35 if you are patient and diligent. It pays for itself in no time.
thelastword
Banned
Very impressive...........that's a lot of money. I hope we begin to see even further improvements to PSN and it's offerings with all their investments in Gaikai and other recent acquisitions.
Crayon
Member
True true true. I would like to state that I am glad to see the bitterness rather than a bunch of fat little piggies circle jerking about how happy they are to pay for the privilege!
It used to be worth the money, now it's basically garbage. It's probably been a year or more since it was worth it as a PS4 owner.
zeopower6
Member
The discounts are the main draw atm. PS+ game quality should go up soon though as other titles get older.
I don't think I'll ever let my PS+ expire tbh.
Gone Home is free right now, that kind of kills your argument.
I'm sure many would cancel if they weren't forced to pay for online multiplayer. Fuck Microsoft for ever making that a thing and fuck Sony for... well, making a smart short term business decision.
I wish more of my friends played on PC. Every once in a while you still get a good game on plus, (Rocket League, Furi is a nice surprise) but if I had no need for the multiplayer I'd cancel in a heartbeat.
I wish more of my friends played on PC. Every once in a while you still get a good game on plus, (Rocket League, Furi is a nice surprise) but if I had no need for the multiplayer I'd cancel in a heartbeat.
Neuromancer
Member
Lol ok pal.
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