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PLayStation VR listed on three swiss site for price between 450€-500€

Maximus.

Member
I won't be buying PSVR until many months down the line, so I'm Ok with this (if true).

For the record, I reckon PSVR will be in the ballpark (lol) of $400 CAD, $350 USD.

With how bad the CAD is, the difference would be more than $50.
 

pelican

Member
PS4 + PSVR < Oculus PC or Vive PC by several hundred dollars. That wasn't so hard now was it?

Less of the snark.

My point stands. It is difficult to market a retail peripheral product which is *more expensive* than the required base unit. The overall bundle being less expensive than Valve/Oculus is not a counterpoint.
 

Trojan

Member
LMAO at people thinking PSVR will be $299 or less. It won't happen, guys. Sony as a company cannot afford to sell PSVR at a loss and from what they're offering the cost is definitely higher than $299.
 

leeh

Member
Think this is a cracking price to be honest, expected around 600EUR.

Anyone who says 'too expensive' need to remember what they're packing into these headsets.
 

JordanN

Banned
LMAO at people thinking PSVR will be $299 or less. It won't happen, guys. Sony as a company cannot afford to sell PSVR at a loss and from what they're offering the cost is definitely higher than $299.
Sony is a billion dollar company. They can easily afford it.

The question should be would it be considered worth doing it? It would be yes if you look at their history of pushing certain media before.

PS1 = CD's (won)
PS2 = DVD's (won)
PS3 = Blu-ray (won, but at a huge cost)
PS4 = VR (???)

It also helps that PS4 itself is profitable, so they would only be losing half the money from pushing VR, instead of losing out on both.
 

kyser73

Member
Exactly. This is an enthusiast product, at least for now, being targeted at the enthusiast market. This is for those million or two people who camped out in the snow to get their PS4 on day one. The technology just has not matured to the point where they can get it out to the mass market. I mean, they're still trying to figure out how to make games for the damn thing.

Apart from the games on this thread:

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1044658

I think you're on point if you're saying no-one's figured out truly new forms of game design for VR, not iterations on existing concepts (and stuff like Job Simulator which would be crap in 2D but apparently is a hoot in VR).

I think we will see proper long-form games for VR eventually (ok, we've got Elite & injected Skyrim etc), but not for a while.
 
PS VR isn't as high end as the Oculus (or Vive), just look at the hardware you need for the Oculus to run on. Then compare it to the PS4...

Yes, it probably won't be $300 but I don't think it's realistic to say it'll be $550 or higher either.
 

kriskrosbbk

Member
I don't think SONY will set such a high price. I bet they plan to sell 5-7mln units first year,which wont happen with 499E price tag. $399 is reasonable.
 
$399 is probably the sweet spot though I wouldn't be surprised to see 430-450. 299ers are going to be upset, and that's ok.
 

kensama

Member
Well they can, because that's exactly what they did with the Rift, pre-order prices went up.


But you talked about US no?
Cause i doubt in Europe you can easily do that.
In EU once a reseller display a price and open the product to preorder they can not by law go back.
What it's said on a french site that relay the info is that price is a place holder in regards to a potential price down but no high.
It's forbidden to go up with price here once you have customer who preordered the product
 
People are willing to spend 150 dollars on an xbox elite controller I think 399 dollars will be fine for the next step in video games
 
Yes. And this is how the software developers/publishers will also treat it without an established install base. For this to build any traction someone has to make a leap of faith or to take a hit. If Sony price the PSVR headset too high it is dead after the enthusiasts buy it.

At that price point it isn't for the 1-2m people who camped out for a PS4.

There are already tons of games in development for PSVR (Kaz Hirai CES quote) so the leaps have been taken. As far as pricing, the first million sales are pretty much guaranteed. PSVR will sell a million this year even if it is $499 and I'm willing to take a ban bet on that if you are. Sony themselves expect 1.5-2 million sales so that should give you an idea that this not going to be a $299 box that every PS4 owner rushs out to buy at launch. This is not a Kinect situation we are looking at where they sell 10 million units in two months, I don't think they even manufacture that many headsets this year. It is going to be a slow burn, for all of VR. The economics of it just aren't there for this to be a mass market product and won't be there for a couple years.
 

Mula

Member
Seriously alle prople saying 299 should buy Google cardboard an play with this, that is the right product for you.
 
It's real. It even says so on the site.

Sony PlayStation VR
der aktuelle Preis basiert lediglich auf Vorankündigungen, welche z.B. in den Medien erwähnt wurden, diese können sich bis zum definitiven Erscheinen des Produktes ändern!

Rough translation:

Sony PlayStation VR
the price is as real as it gets and set in stone. Shu Yoshida told us on a crazy sake bender. This price won't change according to Larry from accounting. His uncle works at Sony!

I'm an expert in the german language. Ask DeutschGAF in the community section.
 
But you talked about US no?
Cause i doubt in Europe you can easily do that.
In EU once a reseller display a price and open the product to preorder they can not by law go back.
What it's said on a french site that relay the info is that price is a place holder in regards to a potential price down but no high.
It's forbidden to go up with price here once you have customer who preordered the product

No, I was talking about Switzerland and these shops, apparently it isn't something that's forbidden here, I read an article about the Rift pre-order price and some lawyer said, consumers would've very little chance to get their pre-order at this lower price.
 

Mula

Member
DerZuhälter;192624860 said:
It's real. It even says so on the site.



Rough translation:



I'm an expert in the german language. Ask DeutschGAF in the community section.

I'm german. Lmao
 

Alo0oy

Banned
LMAO at people thinking PSVR will be $299 or less. It won't happen, guys. Sony as a company cannot afford to sell PSVR at a loss and from what they're offering the cost is definitely higher than $299.

Every single gaming platform they released was sold at a loss, there is no precedent to them releasing a gaming platform and selling it at a profit.

Why would a multi billion dollar company focus on low margin hardware profits that sell nothing (relative to software) when they can focus on the high margins of software licensing?
 
can I watch 3D blu ray porn with this?


DerZuhälter;192624860 said:
It's real. It even says so on the site.



Rough translation:



I'm an expert in the german language. Ask DeutschGAF in the community section.

rofl lmao
so good
 

RiverKwai

Member
Not really open to interpretation, unless English isn't your strong suit.

It's completely open to interpretation in that he's not giving a price, or a ballpark price - he's talking about the pricing STRATEGY.

As has been clarified by Shu and probably pointed out hundreds of times on the internet: Sony is pricing this like a new platform and (this is the important part) NOT a peripheral. What's the difference? They make profit off peripherals and new platforms are sold with the goal of getting marketshare so that they can make money of software.

Anyone who thinks that Andrew House came out and gave ballpark pricing on a product 8 months before release date is IMO nuts.

Might it be $600? Maybe. It's equally as likely that it's $300 though because we have no idea what it costs to make. Assuming it's $600 because of that quote though is just wrong.
 

Sakura

Member
Personally I expect 299~359 USD (assuming bare VR product ie no controllers/camera).

I won't be buying PSVR until many months down the line, so I'm Ok with this (if true).

For the record, I reckon PSVR will be in the ballpark (lol) of $400 CAD, $350 USD.
If only. 350 US is like 500 CAD right now.
 
It's completely open to interpretation in that he's not giving a price, or a ballpark price - he's talking about the pricing STRATEGY.

As has been clarified by Shu and probably pointed out hundreds of times on the internet: Sony is pricing this like a new platform and (this is the important part) NOT a peripheral. What's the difference? They make profit off peripherals and new platforms are sold with the goal of getting marketshare so that they can make money of software.

Anyone who thinks that Andrew House came out and gave ballpark pricing on a product 8 months before release date is IMO nuts.

Might it be $600? Maybe. It's equally as likely that it's $300 though because we have no idea what it costs to make.
Lol, you and I are in agreement on what is being said and not said.

And as, like you said, they weren't giving out ballpark pricing, the price cannot be "interpretted" from that statement.
 

Xun

Member
I really don't see how VR will have mass market appeal at a price like that.

It's going to be dead outside of the enthusiasts in my opinion.
 
My limit $399, after that it's a wait and see. The camera needs to be included in that price. I can probably skip the move controllers as I mostly want to play controller based games, but we'll see. (Hopefully the package will include everything for $399)
 
RIFT costs £499 / $599 but is a higher spec and Sony said VR would be priced like a new system but hinted they might not make a profit on it, to keep cost as low as possible, so I would put PSVR at £299 / $399 or somewhere close to that anyway.
 

AniHawk

Member
I really don't see how VR will have mass market appeal at a price like that.

It's going to be dead outside of the enthusiasts in my opinion.

this first run is going to be like the disc add-ons in the late 80s and early 90s: necessary steps for developers, and wowing the audience who can afford them, but not successful commercially.

they're growing pains for what we'll get 5 years from now, when prices are mainstream and developers have had time to understand the tech better.
 

Hasney

Member
I really don't see how VR will have mass market appeal at a price like that.

It's going to be dead outside of the enthusiasts in my opinion.

By coming down in price as the hardware evolves like any new technology. They don't hit mainstream appeal straight away.

The same was said about TVs, HDTVs and PCs. Don't forget that systems like a Pentium 60 with a whopping 1GB of space were between $2k and $4k at launch. "Never going to be mainstream."
 

Taker666

Member
My guess is they'll aim for a full PS4/PSVR/controllers/camera bundle to match the $599 price of the Rift.

For the standalone PSVR I'd expect $399 max.
 

Konosuke

Member
500€ for something that will be very outdated compared to the second gen product...I'll bite if they throw in lots of goodies. Like, two games or PS+ subs.
 

kensama

Member
No, I was talking about Switzerland and these shops, apparently it isn't something that's forbidden here, I read an article about the Rift pre-order price and some lawyer said, consumers would've very little chance to get their pre-order at this lower price.

Ok
 

Madchad

Member
400 quid with everything i need to use it plus a game or two and ill buy it. Anything more and i would be more tempted to buy an Xbox One with some games/Gsync monitor.
 
You do know, that your guesses are as good as those vendors? Every single one of them essential says on the main page "500 CHF, but actually we are guessing and this will change in the future".
 
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