AJUMP23
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I think you make my joke even better.
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Please help me understand Space.
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I think you make my joke even better.
Morrie’s wig shop
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The real answer is no human knows…..yet
Some theories have the universe as a sphere and possibly we are in a black hole of another universe
The flat theory is that the universe is flat and ever expanding but then you can have other theories on top of the flat theory, for instance if the universe is ever expanding does it at some point stop expanding and starts to retract or does it keep expanding till everything burns up and there is no more stars being produced by galaxies ….
Know one knows,
I like the black hole theory which the science and math are starting to coincide with this theory……freaky….
By the way, you asking the question doesn’t make you look or seem dumb. It makes you look hungry for knowledge to have a better understand what’s going around you, these are the rabbit holes you wanna fall down…enjoy
Some theories have the universe as a sphere and possibly we are in a black hole of another universe
The flat theory is that the universe is flat and ever expanding but then you can have other theories on top of the flat theory, for instance if the universe is ever expanding does it at some point stop expanding and starts to retract or does it keep expanding till everything burns up and there is no more stars being produced by galaxies ….
Know one knows,
I like the black hole theory which the science and math are starting to coincide with this theory……freaky….
By the way, you asking the question doesn’t make you look or seem dumb. It makes you look hungry for knowledge to have a better understand what’s going around you, these are the rabbit holes you wanna fall down…enjoy
Fart Knight
Al Pachinko, Konami President
It's a button on your keyboard.
willothedog
Member
it's the final frontier
Grildon Tundy
Gold Member
Hm...material hitting the earth over that time versus billions of cow farts escaping through the hole in the ozone layer. Not sure which weighs more.
Trogdor1123
Gold Member
This reminds me a bit of when I was in my Astro physics course in university and one kid ask what the planets (and space) were floating in… he couldn’t understand that they don’t float in anything. Simply couldn’t wrap his head around it.
Trunx81
Member
She killed more possible human beings than Hamas, though ..
winjer
Gold Member
Swallowed...
Trunx81
Member
Like a black hole. And now we are back on topic!
winjer
Gold Member
A black hole swallowing the milky way.
Hudo
Member
I think space is a 3d manifold. Some liken it directly to a 3-Sphere.
PuppetMaster
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You can go "UP". A good example of this is the Voyager 1 mission.
But if you are talking about straight up, like closer to a right angle to our orbital plane, it's basically just extremely energy inefficient to exit the solar system this way.
Voyager 1 trajectory relative to our solar system orbital plane. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipe...0.png/1280px-Voyager_1_-_14_February_1990.png
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German Hops
GAF's Nicest Lunch Thief
This is how objects affect spacetime:
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What's so fucking funny
PuppetMaster
PuppetMasterReizo Ryuu
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German Hops
GAF's Nicest Lunch Thief
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Morrie’s wig shop
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It’s the movie puppet master
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Yup. Just going with the narrative that he's supposed to how go with to keep his career.
German Hops
GAF's Nicest Lunch Thief
Omg.
Here we go with this bullshit again...
Here we go with this bullshit again...
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IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
Space is three-dimensional, not flat. Lots of sci-fi (and even science programs) try to simplify space for human understanding by showing lots of objects on the same plane, making you think it's flat - because that's what humans are used to living on a flat surface our whole existences.
In reality, this shit is impractical - three ships convening at the same point in space all more or less oriented the same direction on the same plane and facing each other. This wouldn't happen by chance, and would take a massive amount of coordination in real life.
The planets revolving around the sun on a stable plane is the result of billions of years of gravity stabilizing a system of angular momentum. It's also why spiral galaxies seem "flat" on a more grand scale.
You could depart from Earth in a spacecraft traveling perpendicular to the orbital plane in either direction (or any direction), and there would still be space there. There isn't a "floor". There are other stars and other galaxies "above" and "below" the solar system's orbital plane.
One of the best novels explaining the basics of this concept, in my opinion, is Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card.
Yep. Eve Online has the right idea when it comes to what battles in space might look like.
German Hops
GAF's Nicest Lunch Thief
i'm just saying puppetmaster is a pleb.
What BS Hops?
The Pleasure
Member
Space is a place where you can never be canceled because it's infinite.
Days like these...
Have a Blessed Day
While we're explaining things how do magnets work?
bender
What time is it?
Mikado
Gold Member
Six actually.Hate to break it to you but there are FIVE ships in this picture
Evil Calvin
Afraid of Boobs
Just remember that you're standing on a planet that's evolving
And revolving at 900 miles an hour.
It's orbiting at 19 miles a second, so it's reckoned,
The sun that is the source of all our power.
Now the sun, and you and me, and all the stars that we can see,
Are moving at a million miles a day,
In the outer spiral arm, at 40, 000 miles an hour,
Of a galaxy we call the Milky Way.
And revolving at 900 miles an hour.
It's orbiting at 19 miles a second, so it's reckoned,
The sun that is the source of all our power.
Now the sun, and you and me, and all the stars that we can see,
Are moving at a million miles a day,
In the outer spiral arm, at 40, 000 miles an hour,
Of a galaxy we call the Milky Way.
Evil Calvin
Afraid of Boobs
Our galaxy itself contains a hundred billion stars;
It's a hundred thousand light-years side to side;
It bulges in the middle sixteen thousand light-years thick,
But out by us it's just three thousand light-years wide.
We're thirty thousand light-years from Galactic Central Point,
We go 'round every two hundred million years;
And our galaxy itself is one of millions of billions
In this amazing and expanding universe.
It's a hundred thousand light-years side to side;
It bulges in the middle sixteen thousand light-years thick,
But out by us it's just three thousand light-years wide.
We're thirty thousand light-years from Galactic Central Point,
We go 'round every two hundred million years;
And our galaxy itself is one of millions of billions
In this amazing and expanding universe.
Evil Calvin
Afraid of Boobs
So, you're saying.......exit through Uranus?You can go "UP". A good example of this is the Voyager 1 mission.
But if you are talking about straight up, like closer to a right angle to our orbital plane, it's basically just extremely energy inefficient to exit the solar system this way.
Voyager 1 trajectory relative to our solar system orbital plane. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipe...0.png/1280px-Voyager_1_-_14_February_1990.png
Oh yeah, the way its cropped the foreground BoP looked like a moon or something.Six actually.
midnightAI
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There is an 'Up' (and Down), its just not efficient to leave the solar system in that way.
The theory with out solar system is that the planes formed over billions of years from a collapsed cloud of dust and gas and so formed in a disc like way. Although, not all planets are exactly on this plane, Pluto orbits at an angle. But to leave the solar system its much more efficient to use the gravitational force of the planets in our solar system to slingshot off of.
Oh and as for seeing starts all around us, thats because even though the solar system is pretty much all in all in a row (except Pluto, you dog), the milky way is indeed disc like also (well a disc like barred spiral), but even though its disc like its still 1000 light years thick, so yeh, stars all around us.
Edit: and here we go with the wacky theories again
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midnightAI
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midnightAI
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That would be a shit theory
midnightAI
Member
We can see other galaxies all around us though, so depends on the definition of 'flat', as I've explained above, the milky way is considered 'flat' but its still 1000 light years thick (thats nothing compared to its diameter though).
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Solarstrike
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FunkMiller
Gold Member
I'm currently in Australia. If I look at the night sky tonight, which direction will I be looking in?
There is no up.
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Darkmakaimura
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People say our universe is a sphere but isn't it more like a donut or tire that we are living inside of? For fans of Planescape, our universe is basically like Sigil but expanding.
So what's up with the center part where the "hole" on the outside would be? Well maybe that's something that's spinning the whole universe around or whatever or as some people believe, we are living inside a black hole and that part is the "outer" portions of the black hole. Maybe the "entrance" and "exit" of said black hole are in other universes.
Oh lawd.
So what's up with the center part where the "hole" on the outside would be? Well maybe that's something that's spinning the whole universe around or whatever or as some people believe, we are living inside a black hole and that part is the "outer" portions of the black hole. Maybe the "entrance" and "exit" of said black hole are in other universes.
Oh lawd.
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Darkmakaimura
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I think it's mentioned in Enterprise or one of the other Star Trek shows that in the future, starships will be able to fold space and travel instantaneously to even other galaxies.
Folding space/wormholes seem the best way to go.
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And even that hypothesis comes from our current (public disclosed?) lvl1 conscious/science understanding without taking in account civilizations that are trillions of years ahead of us. Not only technically but spiritually as well. Which is also tech.
The Stig
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THANK YOUSix actually.
