KojiKnight
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Japan's economy isn't in great shape, and games industry is on a slope going down right now, just like most luxuries do in cases like this.
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Pokemon Sun & Moon sold 1.9 million in first 3 days in Japan (Famitsu), down from X&Y
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Japan's economy isn't in great shape, and games industry is on a slope going down right now, just like most luxuries do in cases like this.
BudokaiMR2
Member
Just out of curiosity, why is November considered a bigger sales period? In the U.S. I can understand why, but I can't think of any specific reason why Japanese sales would be better during the month.
So what's the typical digital % on games for Japan? I'd wager pokémon will garner slightly higher % than ordinary games. We seriously dont think it sold at least 100-200K on the 3ds store? I doubt it sold less than X&Y including digital.
Edit: Ah, it includes double packs, that might cancel it out. Are the double packs that popular though?
Edit: Ah, it includes double packs, that might cancel it out. Are the double packs that popular though?
exactly. in my circle of friends everyone bought digital..
from the japanese e-shop
Useless? Digital sales are not THAT large (at least seemingly in Japan), a recent example being Monster Hunter Generations which Famitsu estimates sold 300k digitally out of its total 3 mill sales. So they could only be making up 10% which is significant but definitely doesn't make the retail + download cards/double packs number useless.
SinCityAssassin
Member
1.6 mil compared to 1.57 mil.
Jon Carter
Member
I hate it when numbers are just short of a big milestone.
Beyond that, the sales are pretty great. There was no indication that Pokémon Go was giving Sun/Moon in Japan a boost over X/Y, as opposed to the rest of the world, so it was expected to be in the same ballpark.
I think those sales at the very end of a system's life are rather impressive. The 3DS came out in February 2011 in Japan and we're in November 2016. The game managed to pull inactive 3DS users back in.
Beyond that, the sales are pretty great. There was no indication that Pokémon Go was giving Sun/Moon in Japan a boost over X/Y, as opposed to the rest of the world, so it was expected to be in the same ballpark.
I think those sales at the very end of a system's life are rather impressive. The 3DS came out in February 2011 in Japan and we're in November 2016. The game managed to pull inactive 3DS users back in.
Broken Joystick
At least you can talk. Who are you?
Down from X/Y? The Pokemon fad is finally coming to an end in Japan!
Seriously though, great result. And I'm sure digital sales probably put it over 2 million at least. Maybe even over X/Y.
I mean, that was obviously a joke. Come on, learn to laugh at some point. You helped coined the GAF meme whether or not it was intentional, does this seriously still irritate you?
Seriously though, great result. And I'm sure digital sales probably put it over 2 million at least. Maybe even over X/Y.
I mean, that was obviously a joke. Come on, learn to laugh at some point. You helped coined the GAF meme whether or not it was intentional, does this seriously still irritate you?
The references goes back to when poor sales were foolishly postulated as having had an impact due to the weather, so by referencing that, it was the implication you gave
Its anyone's guess, Yokais digital sales were pretty bad.
Exterminieren
Banned
This is going to be a complicated thing to assess, given the 3DS's place in the market and the Switch's imminent arrival, but these are good figures nonetheless.
It was always going to be the West that saw growth this time around- Pokémon's always been the biggest thing in Japan.
It was always going to be the West that saw growth this time around- Pokémon's always been the biggest thing in Japan.
Or.... it was a joke.
Good numbers, of course it's either going to be higher or lower than before, there's not an astronomical gap between any of the previous entries. But of course the number is even higher with digital sales.
And people are definitely underestimating the hype XY got. Pokemon... IN THREE DEE is a much easier selling point than "purple Meowth."
Not really. Pokémon sales usually have a very low amount of digital sales compared to physical. Chris posted Famitsu's eShop estimates for X/Y and ORAS in the Media Create thread and, well, only 1-2% of XY's and ORAS's launch sales were digital (with the ratio climbing up to a still meager 6-7% over time).
Like Yo-kai Watch Pokemon isn't very friendly with digital
{2013.09.30 - 2013.10.27} [3DS] Pokemon X / Y (ε_Nintendo eShop Download Version_ |DL| <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2013.10.12} (¥4.571) - 33.911 / 33.911 <1,14%>
{2013.10.28 - 2013.12.01} [3DS] Pokemon X / Y (ε
{2013.12.02 - 2014.01.05} [3DS] Pokemon X / Y (ε
{2014.01.06 - 2014.02.02} [3DS] Pokemon X / Y (ε
{2014.02.03 - 2014.03.02} [3DS] Pokemon X / Y (ε
{2014.03.03 - 2014.03.30} [3DS] Pokemon X / Y (ε
{2014.03.31 - 2014.05.04} [3DS] Pokemon X / Y (ε
{2014.05.05 - 2014.06.01} [3DS] Pokemon X / Y (ε
{2014.06.02 - 2014.06.29} [3DS] Pokemon X / Y (ε
{2014.06.30 - 2014.07.27} [3DS] Pokemon X / Y (ε
{2014.07.28 - 2014.08.31} [3DS] Pokemon X / Y (ε
{2014.10.27 - 2014.11.23} [3DS] Pokemon Omega Ruby / Alpha Sapphire (ε
{2014.11.24 - 2014.12.21} [3DS] Pokemon Omega Ruby / Alpha Sapphire (ε
{2014.12.22 - 2015.01.25} [3DS] Pokemon Omega Ruby / Alpha Sapphire (ε
{2015.01.26 - 2015.02.22} [3DS] Pokemon Omega Ruby / Alpha Sapphire (ε
{2015.02.23 - 2015.03.22} [3DS] Pokemon Omega Ruby / Alpha Sapphire (ε
{2015.03.23 - 2015.04.19} [3DS] Pokemon Omega Ruby / Alpha Sapphire (ε
{2015.04.20 - 2015.05.24} [3DS] Pokemon Omega Ruby / Alpha Sapphire (ε
{2015.05.25 - 2015.06.21} [3DS] Pokemon Omega Ruby / Alpha Sapphire (ε
{2015.06.22 - 2015.07.26} [3DS] Pokemon Omega Ruby / Alpha Sapphire (ε
{2015.07.27 - 2015.08.30} [3DS] Pokemon Omega Ruby / Alpha Sapphire (ε
___
{2016.06.27 - 2016.07.31} [3DS] Pokemon Omega Ruby / Alpha Sapphire (ε
{2016.08.01 - 2016.08.28} [3DS] Pokemon Omega Ruby / Alpha Sapphire (ε
{2016.08.29 - 2016.09.25} [3DS] Pokemon Omega Ruby / Alpha Sapphire (ε
Of course, the first week ratio might have shifted a bit more in favor of digital, but we can assume that it'll still be below 5%. It might have sold closer to XY than physical only implies, but in the end the difference isn't very big to begin with.
Sun and Moon's real test will be legs anyway, since XY was a bit weak in that regard.
That was two and three years ago though. Digital has grown a lot since then
Thanks Donald.
Sammy Samusu
Member
I was expecting 2.2 million. But amazing sales anyway.
The Last One
Member
How many days did Famitsu track on X/Y's first week in Japan? More than 3?
Because I think this is somewhat crucial to make this analysis
Because I think this is somewhat crucial to make this analysis
KratosEnergyDrink
Member
It's funny that some "experts" forget to include digital sales when comparing new sales data with sales from the past. Digital sales are increasing fast and in the near future physical sales will be the exception.
X and Y was tracked for 1 less day (2 days of tracking) since it came out on a Saturday as opposed to SM which came out on a Friday.
The Last One
Member
Thanks. So, given the actual post-Pokémon Go status, I'm a bit disappointed with this numbers.
Is there dialogue for sleeping in that bed?
Exterminieren
Banned
Pokémon Go in Japan was the country's most popular franchise getting a mobile game. It wasn't a franchise reviver like it was in the West- that's where we'll likely see a Go bump.
hemo memo
Gold Member
This near future of yours is at least 20 years if not more.
Jo Shishido's Cheeks
Member
So this is a disappointing number then, thought all the 20th anniversary promotions would've pushed this higher.
encephalon
Member
Is there really any reason to believe that Sun and Moon would have a substantially larger proportion of digital sales compared to X & Y?
SinCityAssassin
Member
That depends. Was X&Y available as a preload?
I know on consoles the proportion of digital sales has increased in recent years.
I know this is a joke, but if S&M continues to track behind X&Y I can genuinely see this forming a "would have been the most successful ever if it wasn't for those press sneak fucks" narrative in the dumber parts of the internet.
Exterminieren
Banned
In the West, mainly.
Probably offset by the age of the console minimizing the WOW 3D factor of the game.
Think Diamond/Pearl --> Black/White
Omnistalgic
Member
Pokemon still a monster
MasterSheen
Member
SM are about as expected but 3DS did more than I thought it would
It's not that dumb. I have actually seen people say they're not getting Sun & Moon now that Stars has been "revealed".
I mean it won't have the effect those people will claim, but there will be some denting
tiebreaker
Member
Less than XY on the back of Pokemon Go isn't very good. Maybe people are holding off for the switch version??
Starwolf_UK
Member
I think in the stars thread there were <5% posts stating they had canceled their pre-order.
If that is general while the effect is noticeable it's not really enough to push it past Gen VI launch. Then again as we've seen in the past the Japanese are very good as mistranslating news so it is possible for the effect to be magnified.
I guess a comparison point is how is MH doing these days as it is a also a 3DS title and fairly annual in releases. If it is down too it just shows the health of the 3DS or gaming retail market.
If that is general while the effect is noticeable it's not really enough to push it past Gen VI launch. Then again as we've seen in the past the Japanese are very good as mistranslating news so it is possible for the effect to be magnified.
I guess a comparison point is how is MH doing these days as it is a also a 3DS title and fairly annual in releases. If it is down too it just shows the health of the 3DS or gaming retail market.
Diprosalic
Banned
the fad is finally over.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
That 5% sales drop is totally people waiting for the switch version, leaks super harmful confirmed.