I was about to post this but It took me a while to realize there was a new thread. I think it was an honest slip up.captscience said:Did Joe Scarborough just call Obama, Osama?
I was about to post this but It took me a while to realize there was a new thread. I think it was an honest slip up.captscience said:Did Joe Scarborough just call Obama, Osama?
Shiggie said:I was about to post this but It took me a while to realize there was a new thread. I think it was an honest slip up.
Shiggie said:I was about to post this but It took me a while to realize there was a new thread. I think it was an honest slip up.
so_awes said:
what's up with her right (or left, depends on your perspective) side of the face? it's all puffed way up compared to the other side....
so_awes said:what's up with her right (or left, depends on your perspective) side of the face? it's all puffed way up compared to the other side....
It's the devil trying to get out.so_awes said:
what's up with her right (or left, depends on your perspective) side of the face? it's all puffed way up compared to the other side....
Hitokage said:Only marginally. The only real message there is that people are going NOOOOOOOO I DON'T WANT TO PAY TO KEEP FINANCIAL MARKETS AFLOAT.
syllogism said:If he has a lead like that on nov 4, that hardly matters unless you really really really want to win NC
Fragamemnon said:I think that a BIG part of the public's hand-wringing and reluctance on this issue is because no one has really A) explained why this is necessary RIGHT NOW in simple terms and B) framed the debate properly, mainly because no one wants to really own this issue in any regard. The burden of leadership on this should have been borne by the Bush administration, who was both at the same time unpopular and not running for re-election, but oh god how did I get here I am not good with securities and no one trusts him anyway. Thanks Iraq!
RubxQub said:Hall of Shame from Previous Thread:
- RubxQub 220
- StoOgE 210
- Tamanon 204
- GhaleonEB 167
- AniHawk 141
- reilo 135
- Zeliard 127
- gkrykewy 127
- Ether_Snake 125
- speculawyer 118
- CharlieDigital 112
- Chiggs 108
- Dax01 105
- artredis1980 102
- SpeedingUptoStop 102
- Cloudy 96
- BenjaminBirdie 94
- Gary Whitta 91
- Tobor 90
- Trakdown 88
- Hitokage 84
- kkaabboomm 74
- Fragamemnon 72
- pxleyes 70
- grandjedi6 69
I imagine this thread's PPP is going to be off the charts and could break GAF with the amount of stupid that is going to be coming out of a certain someone's mouth at the debates on Thursday.
The Chosen One said:*was still refreshing old thread*
wtf, how did I miss this? That is just amazing. :lol :lol :lolwinnarps said:
RubxQub said:Hall of Shame from Previous Thread:
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- RubxQub 220
[BIG LIST]- grandjedi6 69
Updated 8:11 a.m.: Citigroup has agreed to buy Wachovias banking operations in a government-brokered deal, a move that that would concentrate power within the nations banking industry in the hands of a few giant lenders, The New York Timess Eric Dash and Andrew Ross Sorkin reported Monday morning.
As part of the deal, Citigroup will absorb up to $42 billion of losses on Wachovias $312 billion pool of loans but the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation will absorb losses beyond that. In return, the banking giant has given the FDIC $12 billion in preferred stock and warrants as compensation.
winnarps said:
lawblob said:And once again, let us reflect on how the situation would be different if Clinton were still President with this happening. Republicans would be trying to have him arrested & impeached within days of this all happening.
Your avatar makes me want to punch it in the face. Change it!perfectchaos007 said:All eyes will be on Palin at this debate...in more ways than one.
CharlieDigital said:They would be calling for his head.
Like I've mentioned before, I know there are a lot of people who say it's not fair to place the blame on the president alone, but at the same time, the guy has the power of line item vetoes, the power to appoint members of the cabinet and staff, and the power to communicate with and influence the citizens.
typhonsentra said:Yeash, and I thought I posted here a lot.....
And is Citigroup really in good enough shape to take this one right now? I thought they were iffy?Fragamemnon said:Looks like Citigroup is indeed buying Wachovia's banking operation:
http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/29/citigroup-nears-a-deal-for-wachovia/?ref=business
This is a tragic loss for Charlotte and I hope that Wachovia employees can keep their (good) jobs there. Somoene needs to start talking about how, when this is all sorted out, we could have as much as 40% of the nation's deposits tied up in four or five megabanks. Not only would they be too big to fail, they would almost be too big to audit IMO.
RumpledForeskin said:Hmmm Sunnny in Philadelphia vs last part of debate.
I think I just might get more laughs from the debate this thursday.
I can live with this (day to day MoE). Depends on what the trend is by Thursday.Fragamemnon said:Rasmussen: O-50, M-45
Obama steady at 50, McCain up one. Ras showing a five point spread feels about right for the race at this point.
kaching said:And is Citigroup really in good enough shape to take this one right now? I thought they were iffy?
RubxQub said:Hall of Shame from Previous Thread:
- RubxQub 220
- StoOgE 210
- Tamanon 204
- GhaleonEB 167
- AniHawk 141
- reilo 135
- Zeliard 127
- gkrykewy 127
- Ether_Snake 125
- speculawyer 118
- CharlieDigital 112
- Chiggs 108
- Dax01 105
- artredis1980 102
- SpeedingUptoStop 102
- Cloudy 96
- BenjaminBirdie 94
- Gary Whitta 91
- Tobor 90
- Trakdown 88
- Hitokage 84
- kkaabboomm 74
- Fragamemnon 72
- pxleyes 70
- grandjedi6 69
I imagine this thread's PPP is going to be off the charts and could break GAF with the amount of stupid that is going to be coming out of a certain someone's mouth at the debates on Thursday.
Fragamemnon said:Rasmussen: O-50, M-45
Obama steady at 50, McCain up one. Ras showing a five point spread feels about right for the race at this point.
Obama favorability went up by a point, so he probably had another very good nightFragamemnon said:Rasmussen: O-50, M-45
Obama steady at 50, McCain up one. Ras showing a five point spread feels about right for the race at this point.
Rasmussen was supposed to be the best pollster of 2004 though. More accurate than Gallup that is at calling the election.StoOgE said:and Ras has a Republican lean of about +2 on their daily tracking poll while Gallup is about neutral and R2K has about a +2-3 Dem lean, so the race is right around 7-8 points most likely.
StoOgE said:and Ras has a Republican lean of about +2 on their daily tracking poll while Gallup is about neutral and R2K has about a +2-3 Dem lean, so the race is right around 7-8 points most likely.
Rur0ni said:Rasmussen was supposed to be the best pollster of 2004 though. More accurate than Gallup that is at calling the election.
Their daily tracker was spot on iirc. I followed it every day.StoOgE said:Not their daily tracker, their actual polls were much better.
Hitokage said:Only marginally. The only real message there is that people are going NOOOOOOOO I DON'T WANT TO PAY TO KEEP FINANCIAL MARKETS AFLOAT.
Fragamemnon said:I think that a BIG part of the public's hand-wringing and reluctance on this issue is because no one has really A) explained why this is necessary RIGHT NOW in simple terms and B) framed the debate properly, mainly because no one wants to really own this issue in any regard.
Ah then I stand corrected, but wouldn't they adjust accordingly for 2008? "We failed in daily in 2004, let's make these adjustments to more accurately reflect blah blah"StoOgE said:Not their daily tracker, their actual polls were much better.
Cheebs said:Their daily tracker was spot on iirc. I followed it every day.
I went and checked, they got the outcome right in 2004 in their tracker.Rur0ni said:Ah then I stand corrected, but wouldn't they adjust accordingly for 2008? "We failed in daily in 2004, let's make these adjustments to more accurately reflect blah blah"
Edit:
>:O
Yeah, and it will grow if the race remains stagnant. Though history shows a tightening of the race in the final weeks.3rdman said:That the biggest I've yet seen of Pac-Bama.
Cheebs said:Their daily tracker was spot on iirc. I followed it every day.
But his aides are convinced that he has a strong chance of winning no fewer than nine states won by George W.Bush in the closely contested 2000 election, including former Republican strongholds like North Carolina, Virginia and even Indiana, which have not voted Democrat for a generation.
David Axelrod, Obama's chief strategist, said last week that Obama had "a lot of opportunity" in states which Mr Bush won four years ago.
But in private briefings in Washington, a member of Mr Obama's inner circle of policy advisers went much further in spelling out why the campaign's working assumptions far exceed the expectations of independent observers.
"Public polling companies and the media have underestimated the scale of new Democratic voters registration in these states," the campaign official told a friend. "We're much stronger on the ground in Virginia and North Carolina than people realise. If we get out the vote this may not be close at all."
Rur0ni said:Yeah, and it will grow if the race remains stagnant. Though history shows a tightening of the race in the final weeks.