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Polygon's marathon Xbox One live stream
- Thread starter Tomcat
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Lol wut? Unnecessary traffic for twitch? They want everyone streaming. Thats like saying people uploading videos to youtube is unnecessary data for google that they dont want.
And the live streaming stuff is really sick. It doesnt have to be streaming to a wide audience. The day I got my PS4 i was just streaming to 4-5 of my friends all the different games showing them off. It made all o them want a PS4 for Killzone. Thats powerful. Now if one of my friends gets a new game they can stream it for us or vice versa can all check it out decide if its good.
So yeah it's cool for you. For me probably the most useless feature on both consoles.
Don't think you really understand how Twitch works or how it makes money.
Also it's fine you don't like Twitch, but there are literally millions upon millions of people who do. You don't need a load of followers to make streaming on twitch useful or fun. Just the other day I was playing Resogun and streaming it for 4-5 friends and we had fun just having them tease me whenever I died and whatnot. I would never have paid for extra equipment to do that. I'm sure there are lots of other users who are in the exact position I'm in.
SRTtoZ
Member
And that's fine because you are obviously buying an XB1 for its feature set, I get that. I was simply stating that in 2014, there is NOTHING futuristic about swapping between apps. Convenient? Cool? Sure. Should it be showcased on the carousel of progress at Disney? Na, not really.
No I'm buying it for the games, the same reason I'm getting a PS4 next week when it releases here in Europe.
This optional stuff that is "there" is cool, but I'm in it for the games. I could do without all the other stuff really.
SRTtoZ
Member
Honestly that goes without saying since we all have active accounts on NEOGAF after all.
Holy crap that's bad. Kinect totally failed. There's gonna be a lot of smashed Xbones at launch
SRTtoZ
Member
Holy crap that's bad. Kinect totally failed. There's gonna be a lot of smashed Xbones at launch
Watch the Verge part as well. They give you their thoughts on it (not good) and then they live demo it and its also pretty bad.
Griffin McElroy in the wrap up also not entirely sold on the Xbox. (to be fair he doesn't think either machine has a must-have reason to buy). Doesn't think he'd ever use voice commands, and loves remoteplay
I think a lot does depend on your circumstances. Eg I play a lot after the kids have gone to bed, and also quite a lot after my wife has gone to bed. So voice commands would be a no-no for me, it'd disturb people. So knowing that the fallback of using a controller isn't great is really bad for me.
I think a lot does depend on your circumstances. Eg I play a lot after the kids have gone to bed, and also quite a lot after my wife has gone to bed. So voice commands would be a no-no for me, it'd disturb people. So knowing that the fallback of using a controller isn't great is really bad for me.
TaroYamada
Member
Microsoft seems determined to design UIs that are designed around questionable methods of user input lately, basing X1's UI around faulty voice commands and basing Windows 8's UI around touch when the vast majority of Windows users use touchpads/mice.
Final Boss
Banned
They're trying desperately to be the leader in a new market (voice commanded setup boxes, touch based desktop). It's going to fail on both counts, they're already admitting defeat on touch based desktops that no one wants yet
Main issue with Kinect is that that the technology is probably still 3-4 years away from being 99% accurate, and that's what it needs to be for people to jump on
TaroYamada
Member
Last numbers I saw on tablet shipments were a decent start, but I haven't looked in a while. Regardless, I don't think they are backtracking so much on metro in Win8, Win8.1's changes were rather minor and the press overstated their meaning imo. I ended up just installing Classic Shell to avoid the jarring full-screen menu on my desktop.
I think I'd be fine with metro on some type of Windows 8 convertible device but in a situation where a mouse is available and makes sense I'll take the mouse 100% of the time, as will most people I think.
If the motion stuff doesn't work, why bother with the expense of IR cams and time of flight stuff? Just have a really good microphone for the voice recognition, and a simple camera - that would be enough for the voice navigation and the facial login which seem to be the main areas that work(ish)
I think you mean amazingly awesome besties characters
Wow, that Kinect video. That thing is still a complete and utter failure apparently.
And even though the gesture UI was the one thing that kinda did work, he reverts to using a controller after a few minutes because Kinect controls take forever. Simply pressing a button is still superior to waving your arms or speaking with your console, who would've thought...
edit: Polygon's video player is indeed pretty fantastic I have to say.
And even though the gesture UI was the one thing that kinda did work, he reverts to using a controller after a few minutes because Kinect controls take forever. Simply pressing a button is still superior to waving your arms or speaking with your console, who would've thought...
edit: Polygon's video player is indeed pretty fantastic I have to say.
whatsinaname
Member
I haven't watched any Polygon review video before. Is this because it is improvised/a marathon or are they always so awkward and inarticulate?
Kabuki Waq
Member
Fuck all the previews said Kinect was really responsive this time around etc..
Wtf happened?
Wtf happened?
CaptainTiptop
Member
Yeesh, Kinect ain't exactly Minority Report, eh?
Completely sucky that Xbone reviews mentioned Kinect was good now, when it still just seems as crummy as ever. Voice commands alone don't justify the extra $100 since the DualShock 4 and a headset can do that on the PS4...
Completely sucky that Xbone reviews mentioned Kinect was good now, when it still just seems as crummy as ever. Voice commands alone don't justify the extra $100 since the DualShock 4 and a headset can do that on the PS4...
Nymphae
Banned
Hopeful previews I guess. Nobody wants to just come out and say the tech fucking sucks and it needs a lot more time in the oven. It needs to work as fast as a controller, every single time you use it, or people will not want to switch.
Anyone seen this yet during the live stream? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-IXV7SG26E
Zombie James
Banned
The way he says those things like they're facts make it sound like he almost did his job.
Oof, but I didn't even know about PS4 remote support until I saw that video.
HawksWinStanley
Member
Yeah I was under the impression that as long as you said the correct command and there wasn't any cross talk between people that the Kinect was pretty damn accurate. Did something come up recently that says otherwise? Because it seemed like that was the case during the Polygon stream yesterday. The only time Kinect took a shit is when they'd make up their own commands or they were talking over each other while giving commands.
Resident_UA
Member
The other thread about Polygon got shut down (rightfully so), but there's a table that I really wanted to post. Below is a list of Xbox and Playstation high profile exclusives and Polygon vs Metacritic comparison. Of course some of those differences are very minor, but Polygon scores really seem to be leaning one way... I find this kind of interesting.
Edit: Typo in Dead Rising row. Small change in favor of Polygon.
Edit: Typo in Dead Rising row. Small change in favor of Polygon.
Polygon should be ashamed.
RedNumberFive
Banned
The other thread about Polygon got shut down (rightfully so), but there's a table that I really wanted to post. Below is a list of Xbox and Playstation high profile exclusives and Polygon vs Metacritic comparison. Of course some of those differences are very minor, but Polygon scores really seem to be leaning one way... I find this kind of interesting.
I can think of about 750,000 reasons for those differences.
Metalmurphy
Member
The other thread about Polygon got shut down (rightfully so), but there's a table that I really wanted to post. Below is a list of Xbox and Playstation high profile exclusives and Polygon vs Metacritic comparison. Of course some of those differences are very minor, but Polygon scores really seem to be leaning one way... I find this kind of interesting.
Edit: Typo in Dead Rising row. Small change in favor of Polygon.
Funnily enough the ones scored above is the ones everyone already knew were gonna tank.
Polygon also said that the voice and facial works great in their review ("SOOOO FUTURE"). Not so much in their livestream.
Why don't we wait for GiantBomb's stream to see how that goes?
Yes, someone made a 15 minute recap of the stream and it is glorious.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cbjes4_vL7Y
This is amazing.
Glorified G
Member
Zombie James
Banned
Fuck, 50 seconds to load from a checkpoint?
RadarScope1
Member
Editing 12 hours of video down to 15 minutes is NOT a fair fight, but the vid is hilarious nonetheless.
Fucking hell that was hilarious, and the third stream I've seen now where Kinect voice gestures basically do not work reliably. To make it all the more laughable, here's what Polygon wrote about Voice Commands in their Xbox One review...
Polygon said:
So fast that in their live stream they decided to ditch using voice commands and just use the controller instead.
The site continues to embarrass itself.
oh wow, that's hilarious.
Callibretto
Member
well they only claim that it works, not that it works well... lol
They claim it's the fastest way to navigate the UI, whereas based on their own stream and others, it seems that is not the case at all. Using the controller is still by far the quickest and most reliable method.
Callibretto
Member
controller is definitely more reliable, but the impression I got is doing all that media stuff with controller is really tedious, like there's a lot of step taken just to make it do simple thing. so they could still be telling the truth about the speed, but that's more like the controller usability is sucks to begin with.
I think ms should have add a 'snap' button on the controller or something
They should knock a point off the score after all the times Kinect failed on their own livestream.
DistortionOfReality
Member
Bahahahah dat highlight reel!
'Xbox, go to...'
'Just use the controller we are trying to do this quickly'
'Xbox, go to...'
'Just use the controller we are trying to do this quickly'
PedroPanache
Member
Hi, my name is Brian McFurgleton
I work for Polygon and hold the position of head technical streaming expert of streaming and what you saw wasn't the Kinect failing, it was the dynamic acoustics of the room failing. Hostile particles in the air can have an abject negative effect on the Kinect system and its fantastically robust voice activation. It was our fault for not clearing the room properly for Kinect. As it stands, Kinect works ALL the time, it's just that this one time it didn't work properly. Which was our fault. Not Kinect. Which is brilliant.
Yours Sincerely,
Brian McDurginton,
Head Technical Streaming Expert,
Polygon
Make your console this Christmas an X-Box One.
yes, that'll do
I work for Polygon and hold the position of head technical streaming expert of streaming and what you saw wasn't the Kinect failing, it was the dynamic acoustics of the room failing. Hostile particles in the air can have an abject negative effect on the Kinect system and its fantastically robust voice activation. It was our fault for not clearing the room properly for Kinect. As it stands, Kinect works ALL the time, it's just that this one time it didn't work properly. Which was our fault. Not Kinect. Which is brilliant.
Yours Sincerely,
Brian McDurginton,
Head Technical Streaming Expert,
Polygon
Make your console this Christmas an X-Box One.
What i've seen in pretty much every Xbone realtime video is that it just doesn't work. Like someone mentioned in one stream, a controller works 100% of the time, if your killer feature and the reason your system is more expensive fails to work even 5% of the time, it sucks. That's not even mentioning the horrendous loading times for all the games, i mean one minute for a checkpoint?
I was really considering getting one eventually when the price is right but unless they redesign the UI to be more efficient without Kinect, i'm not getting it.
I was really considering getting one eventually when the price is right but unless they redesign the UI to be more efficient without Kinect, i'm not getting it.