Will this even have a digital market?
in the original crowdfunding campaign, one of the selling point was that the system *wouldn't* have patching
Will this even have a digital market?
it is. It's an AtGames SOAC genesis clone.
Ah, good to know. I mean it would seem to be pretty nice if someone had some cartridges and maybe a dodgy Genesis system or something.
in the original crowdfunding campaign, one of the selling point was that the system *wouldn't* have patching
It really annoys me that Kotaku (dunno if this was picked up elsewhere) are just straight up saying it's Coleco returning to the console space and not mentioning how it's not the Coleco of the old days, It's literally just a guy who bought the name Coleco.
i can't vision this working out for coleco
Ever wonder why stuff like Psychonauts 2, Schenmue 3, Occulus, OUYA and MST3K never have any lead up time? We don't get news that the makers plan to pitch a Kickstarter three months from now. The campaign just goes live the same day it's announced because the marketing wiz in on a project like that knows news outlets don't report the same news twice.
Yu Suzuki had been openly talking about a Shenmue kickstarter as far back as 2 years before the kickstarter launched. Here is an article from 2014 where Yu Suzuki says he is looking into Kickstarter to fund Shenmue 3
It really annoys me that Kotaku (dunno if this was picked up elsewhere) are just straight up saying it's Coleco returning to the console space and not mentioning how it's not the Coleco of the old days, It's literally just a guy who bought the name Coleco.
I was wrong on Oculus and now I'm starting to think OUYA also had some headlines before going live too.
And as far as Yu Suzuki... was there ever a time when he wasn't talking about Shenmue 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11....
My point being- the media feeds on hype culture and it's extremely effective when it comes to crowdfunding. The Retro VGS guys are shooting themselves in the foot by breaking news so far in advance.
It was kind of telling that Robert Zeboyd on the board here (retro jrpg guy extraordinaire) has been notably not-on-board with the whole plan these guys have, and he would be the perfect target for them to get in their stable. This thing will struggle for support, the only way I could see it getting more is if it has a sleeper exclusive hit or something.
If Coleco can do it, Sega should return to the console arena too.
what games will this play, old consoles' (NES, SMS, MD, SF) cartidges?
Actually, getting a Genesis 3 is an alright choice these days because TMEE created the crystal-clear audio mod that works with the Genesis 1, 2, and 3 that produces better sound than even the best quality Genesis 1.
Of course, if accuracy and clarity isn't important, these things do just fine.
Coleco aren't doing it.If Coleco can do it, Sega should return to the console arena too.
what games will this play, old consoles' (NES, SMS, MD, SF) cartidges?
wow...this bullshit is getting them tons of press...just saw a ton of stuff on Facebook from different websites about how Coleco is releasing a new system...smh...do some research people...
My point being- the media feeds on hype culture and it's extremely effective when it comes to crowdfunding. The Retro VGS guys are shooting themselves in the foot by breaking news so far in advance.
the important thing is to have an audience, and if you don't have an audience to start, you need a big name of some sort to grab an audience quickly.
Have you seen what people post on Facebook? They NEVER do research before reposting something.
A couple months is fine, especially when they need to spread the word before the Kickstarter. Most successful Kickstarters announce some time before the launch of the campaign to get a good audience started. The only time you can get away with not doing that is if you have something huge that will spread like wildfire, like having an important personality behind the project or a big name.I think their strategy of "major announcement" and then "funding campaign two or three months later" is pretty much killing them here. The primary reason they failed last time was the massive delay between their announcement of the console and then the actual start of the funding campaign and they're repeating the exact same mistake again.
They keep waiting for the interest and press attention to plummet to zero and then they starting their funding campaign. That strategy is just going to fail.
A couple months is fine, especially when they need to spread the word before the Kickstarter. Most successful Kickstarters announce some time before the launch of the campaign to get a good audience started. The only time you can get away with not doing that is if you have something huge that will spread like wildfire, like having an important personality behind the project or a big name.
Last time it was more like 9 months, and in that time their entire plan changed and the system became more expensive.
ArsTechnica said:Kennedy promised a sub-$200 price for the Chameleon and said he'd "like to come in at the $150 range" if possible. The new system will be refocused on the original vision of playing 2D sprite-based games like those you'd see in the "8-bit to 32-bit" days. A new crowdfunding effort will likely ask for a more reasonable $250,000 to $300,000, Kennedy said, before debuting a prototype at New York Toy Fair in February.
Retro Video Game Systems said:Interesting day today. Senior Buyer for Toys R Us reached out to us and we have a meeting scheduled with them at Toy Fair and developer Double Fine is asking for a dev kit as soon as one is available.
Interesting...
$150 is perfectly fine.$150 still seems like too much for something like this. I feel like the absolute maximum it could be is $100, and it really should be more like $60.
Interesting...
Very interesting. But I'll be waiting to hear the full story. Things can't be too rosy when at the same time devs are being told to stop talking to the press.
When it comes to the Retro VGS nothing is ever as it seems. And because of that it's fun to watch.
Did you guys know they met with Mattel and Konami back in their first attempt? I don't mean over the phone or via email, I mean actual in person meetings.