Yes I have to agree take the Bugatti track as a example people are missing out and cutting corners for fun. In a race situation running slightly wide and getting your time invalidated ain't going to harm you, in qualifying the pole lap should always be as clean as possible. There are a few tracks that it is slightly strict on certain bends as I've had 3 wheels on tracks 1 touching grass and got invalidated lap, but I'd rather it was much stricter overaul, another bad example is monza people can basically miss out 2nd chicane, hockenheim people cut 1st bend then run wide so they don't brake, so many examples can be found where it is far from strict.
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Yes I have to agree take the Bugatti track as a example people are missing out and cutting corners for fun. In a race situation running slightly wide and getting your time invalidated ain't going to harm you, in qualifying the pole lap should always be as clean as possible. There are a few tracks that it is slightly strict on certain bends as I've had 3 wheels on tracks 1 touching grass and got invalidated lap, but I'd rather it was much stricter overaul, another bad example is monza people can basically miss out 2nd chicane, hockenheim people cut 1st bend then run wide so they don't brake, so many examples can be found where it is far from strict.
Absolutely not...still a great game...just needs some polish
xrnzaaas
Member
Yep, it's an annoying race. First I've tried starting on the intermediates but I almost immediately lost the lead since the AI was driving at the same pace as on slicks. Then I tried starting on slicks, but when it started to rain heavily the car became uncontrollable and I crashed it.
Is this post patch 1.4? I thought they had fixed the AI being able to drive on slicks in the rain??
xrnzaaas
Member
It's not about choosing different tyres, because the AI is faster on the same tyre compound when it starts raining (or on intermediates/wets when it's still dry). As for the AI difficulty, some people here say that they see the difference, I personally don't, but I admit I didn't finish too many wet races after installing the latest patch.
Fixed?, no, improved, arguable........
Anyone had time to test how the new track cutting rules work?
They did mention that it's not perfect for all tracks yet, but I'm hopeful that it'll at least make the hotlap challenges feel a bit less like cheating. They were also going to remove most of the leading times that have illegal cutting from the leaderboards so at least our times aren't being necessarily removed (not that I do have any good times there).
They did mention that it's not perfect for all tracks yet, but I'm hopeful that it'll at least make the hotlap challenges feel a bit less like cheating. They were also going to remove most of the leading times that have illegal cutting from the leaderboards so at least our times aren't being necessarily removed (not that I do have any good times there).
shadowhunter89
Banned
If this goes on sale on steam I might cave in and buy it...
50% chance the game shuts down without warning when returning to main menu after a race in my case after the update.
Fox Mulder
Member
Does the ai use kers? I'm in formula B and can fly past them with it.
Also don't like how it's in one burst.
Also don't like how it's in one burst.
MagnetoWasRight
Member
So the patch really improved Fanatec legacy wheels?
Some work being done on better windshield raindrops.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MegtkiOmpHU
Really great stuff and I was positively surprised by it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8ybUufKSJEIan Bell said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MegtkiOmpHU
Really great stuff and I was positively surprised by it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suKdSepTnsU
Oops. This actually unlocked an achievement for "no roads needed". says for having all 4 wheels off the ground for .88 seconds
Didn't read the GT3 rules and though I could refuel during the race.
Yeah I made this mistake too. Led to an epic race at Circuit de Barcelona-Catalunya. Built up a 5 second lead over P2 by lap 10 of 22. Did a quick call and realised I didn't have enough fuel.
Spent the next 12 laps short shifting and coasting the last 100m of the start finish straight. Managed to get my fuel consumption down from 2.1L/lap to 1.8L/lap and still finished first by 0.5 secs. This game man.
KERS and DRS aremodelled after the car. Not all KERS and DRS work the same way.
This happened to me and I've given up on this title. The way Ian Bell treats people on the PCars forum is just adding insult to injury.
I'll never buy another SMS game again, which is a shame as they've been involved in some great titles in the past, but this is a sad jankfest which takes the piss out of the people who bought it and invested their money, but more vitally, their time time in it.
Their "customer support" is indeed bizarre.
It absolutely did. The Porsche wheels are now recognised as actual wheels which opens up the whole FFB tuning suite. Beware though, default settings are completely overpowered and FFB clips like hell, shaking the wheel like re-entry into the earth's atmosphere. I spent three hours applying Jack Spades FFB tweaks onto all cars and it all feels great now.
I think Ian sometimes forgets that he's responding to new customers and not necessarily WMD members who are very used to his sarcasm and the short shrift he gives to abusive messages, of which there are a LOT (and hence, a lot of his typical responses). I've never once seem him respond in a negative or impolite way to courteous and constructive criticism, but there may of course be examples out there.
Indeed, it's the same difference between the way you converse with your co-workers versus the way you converse with your customers.
I've said it before, but if I spoke to my customers like that, I'd be destitute, nice to have the luxury of saying what you want to who you want, and still have an income source.
Like wise, I'd be out of a job. A customer is upset because the software doesn't work. That's your fault. Someone needs to tell him to stop posting on the forum, hire a proper community manager as he does little except contribute to the circlejerk.
I have seen examples of times when he has banned someone for a genuine complaint:
http://pretendracecars.net/2015/06/11/reader-submission-6-at-least-from-his-sarcasm-comes-the-truth/
When I saw this, I knew enough was enough (leaving aside the fact that sometimes the PCars forum is exceptionally entertaining).
I didn't see the ban there..?
And the article writer must surely have been sarcastic himself when posing "Not sure if hes being sarcastic or not "
There's no doubt Ian rubs a lot of people up the wrong way, but there is a lot of vitriol posted. People are pissed off with the launch (and post-patch) state of the game but abuse often gets answered with sarcasm. I agree it doesn't look great for a neutral observer. Personally, I find it pretty obvious when he's taking the piss and responding on a like-for-like basis, but I also agree it often comes across as somewhat unprofessional considering the amount of things that need fixing and are still being worked on. That's the nature of the guy I guess - he always speaks his mind.
Ugh, not pretendracecars, man, that site is pure hate, that site, and PCars customer support are doing a lot of damage to sim racing IMO
He's basically running the forum the way I am sure a lot of developers would like too, but won't due to the potential financial suicide of doing so!
He's basically running the forum the way I am sure a lot of developers would like too, but won't due to the potential financial suicide of doing so!
Then don't fucking post.
Someone in the studio needs to grow a spine and tell him to shut the fuck up. You don't put out a fire by pouring petrol on it.
The MD's wife at an old job of mine actually intervened to relaunch the boss as a new user-friendly, 'cuddlier' (her words) version. Some people used to be absolutely terrified of him..! It kind of worked, up to a point.
Is it possible to change the character of someone, irrepsective of 'training' and being taught how to be 'empathic'?
I think in times of stress we all revert to type. Quite clearly Ian Bell is a man under immense pressure.
Apologies for linking to a 'known' site, I didn't know it was seen in that way here . . .
No, not in my experience at least, even with lots of coaching, you always resort to your default position at times of high emotion.
Anyway, enough about that........
Caper Stock car on Watkins Glen GP, how good is that combo?, love it!
ConstructMe
Banned
Hes a fuckwit, the game is in an appalling state, such a letdown considering the potential.
ConstructMe
Banned
Its because now they have our money and its sold a heap and reviewed better than expected he already feels mission accomplished. And thinks he can act like a cunt.
flashmouth
Neo Member
Did the framerate on XBO improve already or is it due with 1.4? reading good things about the ps4 version.
There's supposed to be a 5-6% performance increase on Xbox One with 1.4.
Looks like the patch has started to roll out now.
Ok people, diff settings, for some reason, even though I've driven sims for donkey's years, these always confuse me.
I've done some searching, and have found contradictory information, and I am not convinced that PCars settings are the same as other sims.........
Can anyone give me a very simple, Increase this does this, and decreasing this does this, for Accel lock, Decel lock and preload does please, that would be most appreciated.
I've done some searching, and have found contradictory information, and I am not convinced that PCars settings are the same as other sims.........
Can anyone give me a very simple, Increase this does this, and decreasing this does this, for Accel lock, Decel lock and preload does please, that would be most appreciated.
oRuin
Member
I've been really enjoying Pcars on the PS4 since joining a clean racing community. Met some new people and had some great racing. I have ordered the T3PA-PRO ADD-ON for my T300 and was wondering if anyone has used the GT Omega Stand? I understand that a lot of people buy the Wheel Stand Pro, but If I was to buy the addon shifter somewhere down the line I would like to be able to mount it in the correct position which the GT Omega allows. Any thoughts on this stand from people who own it?
Icefire1424
Member
Absolute rookie question, but really curious how everyone else out there is doing this.
I'm playing with no "game" assists - no driving line, no map, only helmet cam, stuff like that. When out on the track (especially when getting the feel for a new circuit), what indicators are you looking for when determining when, and how hard to brake coming into a turn? Pretty easy when behind some traffic (look for the sea of brake lights), but what techniques do you use when on your own? I've noticed I tend to look for the rubber on the road to indicate where the field is braking, but even then I seem to miss my mark pretty regularly until I start memorizing every turn. Meter markers are only somewhat helpful, but really am curious what everyone else does.
Seems like something one might learn at racing school.
I'm playing with no "game" assists - no driving line, no map, only helmet cam, stuff like that. When out on the track (especially when getting the feel for a new circuit), what indicators are you looking for when determining when, and how hard to brake coming into a turn? Pretty easy when behind some traffic (look for the sea of brake lights), but what techniques do you use when on your own? I've noticed I tend to look for the rubber on the road to indicate where the field is braking, but even then I seem to miss my mark pretty regularly until I start memorizing every turn. Meter markers are only somewhat helpful, but really am curious what everyone else does.
Seems like something one might learn at racing school.
Just look for visual pointers. For example, I always start braking for the second Monza chicane when just under the bridge, this still depends on what car you're driving of course.
I've been driving these circuits in sims for so long I don't really think about it anymore, I just brake on feeling.
Start lapping the track slowly, watch for static visual trackside details (important that these details don't move, like shadows, rubbering in, or brake markers) for braking indication, slowly increase your speed and decrease your braking distances as you lap.
Turn in and apex points are also as important, so pay attention to that, Stella Stig did a video showing how to drive Zolder, this will give you some idea on how to progress with learn to drive a track fast.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kguTM-aXG4U
Finding visual cues to where to brake exactly is essential to racing. I used to break based on braking marks on asphalt, but you need to find much better references. If possible, look for static cues that you can follow under every circumstance (for istance, billboards or distance markers, while good enough, should never be your only reference, since those can be taken out by accidents and then you will be lost).
Icefire1424
Member
Okay, that's a bit creepy. This thread was inspired by my run around Monza in a Pagani Zonda last night. Very familiar with the course (thank you GT series), but not in a car that powerful in this game until now. Given the number of times I've probably run this track virtually in my life, I assumed I would've had the lines down pat, but just could not find the best lines in that Zonda. Kept braking waaaaaaaay too late in that last turn.
Sound advice, and that's generally what I've been doing. As Dilly mentioned, I do start looking for visual cues the more I race on a particular circuit, just takes some time to become familiar with them. Either way, sounds like I'm on the right path, just need more time behind the wheel. Thanks for the feedback!
I catch myself doing that more often than I should, especially since the rubber on the road becomes much harder to see in the rain or when the shadows are out on the track. Good point.