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KiteGr
Member
I'm currently migrating to Steam.
Console manufacturers are pushing for a digital-only age, yet their stores and pricing is abysmal.
On Steam the prices, discounts and interface are better, it offers all benefits of PSplus for free (such as online play and cloud saving), minus the free "hostage" games of course. It also has much better support on key sites, so the prices are even better if you go that route.
Console manufacturers are pushing for a digital-only age, yet their stores and pricing is abysmal.
On Steam the prices, discounts and interface are better, it offers all benefits of PSplus for free (such as online play and cloud saving), minus the free "hostage" games of course. It also has much better support on key sites, so the prices are even better if you go that route.
nkarafo
Member
I really don't get this. For decades i was told that a good interface must be easy to understand and snappy to control/feel. But the last few years i see more and more interfaces that make no sense and you have to figure out what is what. The latest offender for me was the Forza games, especially Horizon 4. What the hell was that? I'm playing the game for some time now and i still don't know where everything is.
StueyDuck
Member
Alot of it comes from bloat. I control/maintain legacy logistics software and to do any sort of bespoke work on it is a headache because of how bloated the software has become over the many many years and how many other different engineers/developers have had their hands on it.
But I wouldn't be surprised if another aspect of it comes from outsourcing... those who know will know.
Games really don't have any excuse though, the fact forza and call of duty and ghost recon etc. All have these bloated mess of an UI to me says they have bad project leads, if I can tell you these menus are clunky then they should have caught it the second they tried it.
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Senua
Member
Ronin_7
Banned
Being cleaner and easier than Gamepass doesn't mean it's ideal though.
Both need a little bit work imo.
balls of snow
Member
I hide those demos and betas as soon as im done with them. Keep the clutter down.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
Online gaming should be free.
King Dazzar
Member
rofif
when you weren't subbed, was the experience fine? Any quirks etc? Just wondering if there's anything I need to be aware of when I unsub next year? I imagine my experience will be identical, bar the multiplayer access? I take it you still log into PSN fine and have access to friend chat and achievements and played time all log as before etc...
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rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Unsubbed was fine. Insert disc, scroll down if I want to buy dlc and that’s it.
King Dazzar
Member
So aside from no cloud saves and multiplayer, there's nothing I'll miss when I unsub? Just checking that there's no hidden downsides to unsubbing next year. Cheers.
Back to your issues, strangely when I do save backups to an external drive, I always get a confusing warning message saying the cloud saves aren't fully synced. But they actually are. I've already got into the habbit of doing backups every week or two. I'm looking forward to unsubbing.
The only other thought I have. Its a shitty workaround. But it may help to use the folders option to separate your games out for you. You could have one folder for digital another for physical. At least then you may know which games require a disc from you or not...
Mr Hyde
Member
Stopped subbing PS Plus about two years ago. I only buy a month here and there if I wanna check out some interesting games that drops (like Callisto Protocol when it was on offer) or play some Souls online. I will never sub for entire years ever again. Waste of money if you ask me.
It can be a little confusing, but I don’t find it that bad tbh. The xbox dashboard makes me want to scream every time I use it 
, so maybe the bar just isn’t very high. In the same way i sometimes bitch about Netflix, until I open nowTV which is a barely usable traversty, and realised Netflix is the best of the bunch.
Really tho, once you have a large library of content it can get very hard to surface it all intuitively. Our own service we now have over 1500 episodes/releases, and it becomes a nightmare working out how to best serve them to users…not to mention when u try to get smart, the more things you do the more costs go up on things like recommendation engines, so it’s always a balancing act.
, so maybe the bar just isn’t very high. In the same way i sometimes bitch about Netflix, until I open nowTV which is a barely usable traversty, and realised Netflix is the best of the bunch.Really tho, once you have a large library of content it can get very hard to surface it all intuitively. Our own service we now have over 1500 episodes/releases, and it becomes a nightmare working out how to best serve them to users…not to mention when u try to get smart, the more things you do the more costs go up on things like recommendation engines, so it’s always a balancing act.
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
I agree. With PS5 I generally find the storefront parts are overall fine to search and navigate, aside from the sometimes bizarre way that PS4->PS5 upgrades are often hidden or made incredibly obtuse to figure out. It gets a pass from me mainly because I'm so used to it by now, but some of it is I agree really clunky.
Xbox on the other hand I'm coming back to after a long break, so maybe I'm being overly harsh, but it feels like a smartphone type interface that is trying so hard to be simple and helpful that its constantly getting in my way.
GHG
Member
It's just sport mode that doesn't work, everything else functions as normal.
King Dazzar
Member
Yep that's how I'm going to be rolling after March next year for both PS+ and Game Pass. Going by recent sales too. You're more likely to get offered a special deal and get the odd month for cheap being unsubbed. Where by you could maybe demo some games and drop it again.
I've just been reading into the detail of not being subbed and there appears to be a lot more available than I would of expected. For example a lot of online games still give you a lot of functionality even without PS+ Especially micro transaction fuelled games. You still have access to PSN and friends chat, achievements etc etc. I think I've been wasting my money for years tbh. Its only the recent price hikes have given me the slap in the face I needed to look at it more in depth. Just need to do sensible house keeping like backing up saves to USB for playstation.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
TrebleShot
Member
They also need to sort out filters etc in the library section it’s lacking some
Basic filters that would be awesome “60fps” ore “performance” filters, just plus filters, publisher , Dualsense support, HDR support etc pretty basic stuff that would be pretty powerful.
Basic filters that would be awesome “60fps” ore “performance” filters, just plus filters, publisher , Dualsense support, HDR support etc pretty basic stuff that would be pretty powerful.
VinnyMac
Member
If you can't afford 13 dollars a month you either spend your money poorly or should be spending it on more important things. Almost every streaming service is more than that a month.
diffusionx
Gold Member
I've been a subscriber to PS+ since it launched on PS3, and PS5 is my primary gaming device, and I think it is somewhat telling that I have never, not for one second, thought about spending more money on the higher tiers since they launched. The service is just not any good and Sony isn't putting in the work they need to. A lot of what Sony has done outside of the actual game development (which to be fair is the most important part) has been really half-assed
Come on man... This is Sony who couldn't be bothered to only show content in the library that you could access on your Vita or PS3. With zero type of sorting, only ordering by purchase date. Databases and view modifications are so challenging.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
yeah classics suck ass to play and ps3 games are streaming only... which is a nightmare. It is unplayable
GymWolf
Member
Someone said to me that it is better in us, but i pay the same amount of money so i expect the same quality, it's not an excuse at all.
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StealthGoblin
Banned
I've got premium but I find the store a mess.
Sometimes I can find the extra games easily and other times they feel buried.
Sometimes I can find the extra games easily and other times they feel buried.
touchfuzzy
Member
When Rocket League went free to play is when I stopped needing PS+. Still dragged along with it for a few years out of habit I guess, finally let it expire for good this year.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Exactly. I am in Poland. 600mbit low ping connection, wired to router.
I asked sony for a refund. I don't believe they will refund me but maaaybe.
I want my library to be tidy and clean. I don't want this crap which you can't filter or only partially so.
I just want online only tier (should be free of course).
Hohenheim
Member
I did a check to see what i've got out of my ps+ extra sub since those updated ps+ variants launched..
It was one game (Odin's Sphere)
..which would have been a lot cheaper if I had brought it instead.
So i've definitly been one of those who forgets about stuff like this and keep subscriptions running without using it at all. A dream customer!
My last ps5 game was FF16 and the next game i'm gonna play on there is FF7 remake part 2, so it's hilarious that i've been paying for this unnescecary stuff for ages.
It was one game (Odin's Sphere)
..which would have been a lot cheaper if I had brought it instead.
So i've definitly been one of those who forgets about stuff like this and keep subscriptions running without using it at all. A dream customer!
My last ps5 game was FF16 and the next game i'm gonna play on there is FF7 remake part 2, so it's hilarious that i've been paying for this unnescecary stuff for ages.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Lol I posted my compains on reddit ps5 sub and within 5 minutes:
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Lol CONSUME CONSUME CONSUME PRODUCT DO NOT QUESTION CONSUME. Fucking idiots. How is anything ever going to improve.
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Lol CONSUME CONSUME CONSUME PRODUCT DO NOT QUESTION CONSUME. Fucking idiots. How is anything ever going to improve.
Chronicle
Member
You can't be serious that plastic is better than bytes. Especially calling me naive. I cant see how wanting to have a better planet is naive. There is a garbage patch of the pacific larger than Texas! There's plastic all over our streets. It has now been found in human blood. We don't need it. Get off plastic.
lughnasadh123
Member
There's certainly things like sorting that could use some work but overall it works perfectly fine to find and go play a game.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
You got played into personal carbon footprint buulshit.
Server farms eat a ton of energy, requires hard drives and tons of other parts/metals.
Punching stupid piece of plastic in a press is infinitely less damaging for the planet. Nobody throws this shit away too.
What is found is human blood is teflon and microplastics. but the plastics are not from cds lol
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Shake Your Rump
Member
I completely agree. It is ridiculous that I now would have to pay over $100 CAD just for basic online functions. The “free” games each month are an embarrassment.
The PS3/PS4 era was fine. I paid $30 a year and got five games a month, and they were actually good games.
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Chronicle
Member
Yeah. No one throws away video games. That never happens. You probably live in a city yes? Well I don't. I enjoy nature and don't need to see anymore plastic. Microplastics are plastic. Leave wildl8fe alone. Where does your trash go? If no one picked it up and made it disappear within a week you'd be neck deep in trash and it's all plastic (and that only takes a few days). It will never go away.
However I think we also need to reduce server farms and get that info out there too. I'm in the camp of reduce all waste.
We will agree to disagree. Thanks for your response.
Badlucktroll
Member
I let my premium lapse and just got a year of essential for $61 on black friday. fuck 159.99
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
I guarantee you that punching some discs is more green than server rooms.
It doesn't matter where I live. The fact is that you will not find red dead redemption 2 on a trash. It will rot in someones attic for 100 years....
Besides - I don't care abou a fucking planet. I am not responsible for it's demise. It's the corporations and super rich. Jeff bezos pollutes as much as whole countries. fuck that. Meanwhile I can't use discs and plastic straws ?! no way I am getting beaten over the head with this green crap. Enough is enough.
good watch
DryvBy
Member
The disc thing has been resolved for a really long time if it's the same one. I buy physical and you used to have to uninstall the disc game to get the digital to work. Not the case now.
The worst thing about their store is buying things. If you try a game out on Plus and then want to buy it, good luck. It says you own it.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
exactly. And there are tons of examples like this. hot mess
Gamer_By_Proxy
Member
You must be the biggest butthurt xbot on here. Can’t even handle facts. Wake me up when GamePass titles are tied to your account forever.
Senua
Member
fart town usa
Gold Member
Just a heads up, Alone in the Dark: Inferno is a PS3 game so it's streaming only. I know many of you are chomping at the bit to dive in. Also, please make sure to close out properly when streaming games from the cloud. There's limited bandwidth and we want to make sure that no one misses out on Alone in the Dark: Inferno.
fart town usa
Gold Member
Horizon: Call of the Mountain is the dumbest UI of recent memory for me. Turn speed is set to a truly awful setting and the speed names are not intuitive. So many VR players get the game and think it's unplayable because they don't realize the speed can be further increased from what they already increased it to. Just happened the other day in the PSVR2 OT.
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