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I see Actua Pool, aka Pool Shark. That was one of the first pool games I played on PS1. I'd love it if it was released on Steam.
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PS1 game N2O gets emulated release on Steam, more coming.
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Quadraphonic
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How do they get around all the references to Playstation on memory cards and stuff? Hell, they're using the copyrighted symbols for the Playstation controller.
This isn't going to stay up long, folks.
This isn't going to stay up long, folks.
So this seems to involve Koudelkas pal publisher so will these be region locked out something. Infogrames which are part of Atari? Are involved in a lot of these.
In the case of N2O the owners seem to be involved in this so maybe it was actually ported. Has anyone bought it yet?
In the case of N2O the owners seem to be involved in this so maybe it was actually ported. Has anyone bought it yet?
HadesGigas
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There are games on Steam that use Playstation controller prompts nowadays though. Many recent games since the PS4/One came out can detect the difference between 360/Xbox One/PS4 controllers and put up proper prompts.
Quadraphonic
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That seems sketchy to me.
This means there's going to be all the references to "Playstation(R) Memory Card" and such.
There's a difference between recognizing a controller and using the assets outright.
This is true. If you break the saving in some way, you're left with just the button stuff. And I just bought Grim Fandango on PC and it keeps thinking my Xbone controller is a DualShock and Sony isn't suing.
There are several games from Infogrames on the site, which was the publisher of Koudelka in Europe.
Makes me wonder if they are emulating PAL games....Not sure how I feel about 50hz PSX games.
HadesGigas
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Definitely I'm not entirely convinced they're properly prepared legally for this. Especially since there's no info on who "they" even are.
But of all the potential problems, I can't see controller icons being the thing that takes them down.
Quadraphonic
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No, but it shows they aren't changing ANY assets, since those would be among the first you would alter.
jediyoshi
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Please explain what I'm assuming is a distinction you're making between it being sketchy that a PC game includes Playstation controller prompts but not Xbox controller prompts. You realize the symbols themselves aren't actually copywritten, right?
The Broken Ska Record
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Bros. Mobile. Light. Force.
Honestly, it seems like Console Classics may have the rights to this stuff due to a back catalog of Xs' games.
Honestly, it seems like Console Classics may have the rights to this stuff due to a back catalog of Xs' games.
funkystudent
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Emulating a system for commercial purposes without the creators permission seems like its on shakey legal ground but I guess stuff like the retron exist so maybe it's OK?
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
Honestly as long as it's not using actual Playstation BIOS or anything it's perfectly legal. The games though you'll need people to sign off on those.
I'd rather they turn it back into Gunbird but their emulator doesn't even increase the rendering resolution of the games at all so I'd just stick with the PS1 versions of these games and emulating it myself.
Actually, the versions of the Metal Slug games on Steam are ported and listed as being developed by DotEmu even though SNK Playmore is listed as the publisher for them.
The retron emulates really old system and requires you to have the actual carts for the games. It's not the same situation at all.
No big difference if this is ps1 emulation it's using the ps1 bios which is Sony property. The retron emulates bios free systems.
Actua Golf is seriously good people, get on that.
And yeah using PlayStation-style button prompts is fine. Remember the developers create the button prompt images, they're not copied from, like, a Sony library or anything. Part of the submission process is where the console manufacturer checks that the button prompts are 'close enough' to their own official ones.
And yeah using PlayStation-style button prompts is fine. Remember the developers create the button prompt images, they're not copied from, like, a Sony library or anything. Part of the submission process is where the console manufacturer checks that the button prompts are 'close enough' to their own official ones.
Quadraphonic
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I'm more concerned about the memory card references. Since many games reference it by name because of TCRs. It also means using the art of it. I could be totally wrong about that legality, but we'll see.
By emulating the BIOS?
You have it? Is it rendered in high resolution? What type of options, if any, does the emulator have?
The language select could mean that they uploaded the PAL version, which would suck since I assume the PAL version is 50hz only.
Very sketchy that the company has no real information, has discovered how to emulate things in a way never before discovered by anyone, and reached agreements with all these companies.
More likely an illegal operation using obscure titles hoping the games are too obscure to attract legal attention.
More likely an illegal operation using obscure titles hoping the games are too obscure to attract legal attention.
This battle was already fought in the US, specifically with regards to PS1 games -- both Connectix (VGS) and Bleem! beat Sony in court but were driven out of business by the lawsuits
VGS, while lacking fancy graphical features, had high compatibility and ran well w/ a reverse-engineered bios and that was almost 20 years ago
lyrick
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Options:
Controls:
Fox Interactive splash screen is gone
There's a crazy low res prerendered title scene movie I've never seen before
Language Select
Different Logo
Odd targets (a tutorial level That wasn't in the NA release), "1up" above player score, "High Score" label and value are titled Horizontally
dragonlife
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WOW. I remember this game from the Playstation Underground Christmas demo discs I got YEEEEEEEEEEEARS ago. Brings back tons of memories.
Mufausa The 3rd
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This is exactly what I was thinking too. I don't believe this for a moment. Selling emulated console games on steam with Steam Trading Cards and Achievements.. I don't know. That sounds suspect..
Makes me feel no different whatsoever. I can play it. I actually am
And yeah it's most definitely European.
hah! Man that made me so pissed when all the journos asked Shu-san about the PS3 fucking backward compatibility on PS4 and somehow magically forgot the PS1/2 -.-
Strangest thing is, they got actual PC releases. At least, Reloaded did... because I owned it (bought it around the same time as Tunnel B1).
DamonForever
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Woah, D and Koudelka. I'd likely get those if they got on Steam. Maybe we could get console emulated games of not great PC versions (FFVIII, Urban Chaos). Unlikely, but it would be tempting.
Absoludacrous
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Koudelka was hot garbage. Weird to see people clamoring for it. Its one saving grace was that it led to the much better Shadow Hearts.
If these stellar IPs are all that they could manage (if it's even legal), there's no way that you'll ever see FF9.
Leon Belmont
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Just want Loaded and Reloaded, good memories
I think he probably is suggesting Square do it themselves since they should have the same right to do so as these guys do.
Correct, seems like a low-effort job for Square resulting in a decent RoI. And even FROM with their PS1 King's Field games.
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