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PS3: Firmware 1.50 Is Up For U.S. Systems (BC Image Quality = Better)
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Dot50Cal said:
I have the same set as JB1981 and switching back and forth between the PS3 and PS2 using identical cables and identical games on the same TV input...they look exactly the same at 480i and I'm a videophile who notices imperfections (see me being the first one to bring up the blur of 480p in this thread last night).
Question: I have a slim PS2 (NA region) and am pondering a PS3 purchase. My understanding is the PS3 is only region-free for PS3 games. There are a lot of PS2 games that I want, but haven't been able to enjoy because they are imports. Should I
A)Purchase a J-PS3?
or
B)Go the more expensive, yet less risky route of, selling my slim PS2, buying a domestic PS3, and maybe buying an import PS2?
Since the PS3 is region-free for PS3 games and the BC is fixed, are there any foreseeable problems with only owning a foreign PS3?
A)Purchase a J-PS3?
or
B)Go the more expensive, yet less risky route of, selling my slim PS2, buying a domestic PS3, and maybe buying an import PS2?
Since the PS3 is region-free for PS3 games and the BC is fixed, are there any foreseeable problems with only owning a foreign PS3?
Vark said:
Just PS2 games because of the way they are rendered. Dark10x noticed the same thing and explained it a while back.
But basically on the CRT XBR960, PS2 at 480i looks noticeably sharper and better looking than Xbox games (which look blurry at 480p) in terms of IQ and I didn't play enough GC titles in the last year to make a strong opinion. Zelda Wii definitely looked better in 480i than 480p on this set, which is what I played it. I also play 16:9 games like Zelda at 4:3 to get the most pixels per area, which results in a sharper looking picture.
JB1981 said:
Yeah XBR2
I've been messing around switching between hdmi and component.. I honestly can't see a huge difference; though hdmi does seem brighter and a bit sharper.
I think I'll be playing my PS2 games over hdmi.. I tested games like Silent Hill 2 over hdmi and it looked serviceable, so no need to keep switching between inputs.
anddo0 said:
That's a 1080p LCD right? LCD is fixed pixel so HDMI/Component will both eventually end up at 1080p, so they should look identical.
The only time that someone should use component 480i on PS3 over HDMI 480p is if they are running on a not-fixed-pixel display like a CRT.
IGN: PS3 v1.50 Video Demo (FF12)
http://media.ps3.ign.com/articles/758/758306/vids_1.html
pretty interesting video
http://media.ps3.ign.com/articles/758/758306/vids_1.html
pretty interesting video
Klonoa 2 has an interesting issue...
It works perfectly fine, but the game literally seems to adjust its resolution EVERY SINGLE TIME you move to a new screen. Enter a cave, finish a cutscene, etc. causes the TV to flash for a second and then display its resolution for me. Very odd. Doesn't damage the game or anything, but it makes those cool transitions between doors less so.
It works perfectly fine, but the game literally seems to adjust its resolution EVERY SINGLE TIME you move to a new screen. Enter a cave, finish a cutscene, etc. causes the TV to flash for a second and then display its resolution for me. Very odd. Doesn't damage the game or anything, but it makes those cool transitions between doors less so.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
Downloadable PS2 games on PSN? (made to work in high-res and higher framerate)Fafalada said:
DCharlie said:
I think it's specific to CRTs with very good image quality, yes. Also keep in mind that CRTs are usually small so things stay sharp (the XBR960 is the largest in the series and it's only 36"). On a huge projecter that's LCD or DLP technology PS2 games will look bad and Xbox/GC games will look a lot better. That's normal.
I chose my HDTV specifically because PS2 games would look fantastic on it, and PS3/X360 HD stuff would look great as well. Since, even a year into the X360 and 3 months into the PS3, the majority of games I'm playing are still on the PS2 (and it looks to continue that way for at least another handful of months).
gutter_trash
Banned
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Community Forum
Member
THANK GOD!
Playing on an LCD HDTV here, and I thought I was going to have to skip Rogue Galaxy, it looked like such poop. Not anymore! Just played the demo and it looks great!
Time to pop in FFXII.
Playing on an LCD HDTV here, and I thought I was going to have to skip Rogue Galaxy, it looked like such poop. Not anymore! Just played the demo and it looks great!
Time to pop in FFXII.
lucius
Member
My sony HS510 crt hd tv is also better running 480i ps2 games on component this has always been the case with this tv although its older than the 960 model. It just handles the source better than me switching progressive scan in games, this is true running them on my PS3 also just sharper and clearer, it looks beautiful.
whatdidyousay
Member
Hmm. I updated it and I can't tell if anything's different. Long day, but still.
I tested a bunch of games:
SF3 Third Strike is perfect now in 480i...in 480p it looks awesome and sharp, but you notice interlacing here and there...the PS3 seems to output each interlaced field as a full frame, but doesn't add anything to the image, which is why you can see the interlaced frames in things like parries or the dust on the ground when a character dashes.
Devil May Cry 3 SE looks awesome. I think it looks better than on PS2 now.
Silent Hill 2 seems perfect.
Metal Slug 5 is perfect.
Marvel vs Capcom 2 is as perfect as it ever was on PS2
lol)
Castlevania SOTN is slightly less blocky, but still pixelated. I guess forcing 480i to 480p works a lot better than forcing 320x240 to 480p
Final Fantasy XII on PS3 HDMI is exactly like PS2 on component now.
SF3 Third Strike is perfect now in 480i...in 480p it looks awesome and sharp, but you notice interlacing here and there...the PS3 seems to output each interlaced field as a full frame, but doesn't add anything to the image, which is why you can see the interlaced frames in things like parries or the dust on the ground when a character dashes.
Devil May Cry 3 SE looks awesome. I think it looks better than on PS2 now.
Silent Hill 2 seems perfect.
Metal Slug 5 is perfect.
Marvel vs Capcom 2 is as perfect as it ever was on PS2
lol)Castlevania SOTN is slightly less blocky, but still pixelated. I guess forcing 480i to 480p works a lot better than forcing 320x240 to 480p
Final Fantasy XII on PS3 HDMI is exactly like PS2 on component now.
M3Freak
Banned
I installed the update and popped in GTA:SA. I never tried it before the update so I don't know what it looked like with the last firmware.
Note: PS3 hooked up via HDMI to a Sony SXRD KDSR50XBR1.
- when I'm not moving around, it looks fine. About as good as I remember it on my PS2 and 36XBR250.
- when moving around, I see more jaggies and this weird comb effect. ::cries::
- the game seems to be loading faster, but I'm getting slowdown in areas/sections where there never was any. ::more crying::
- driving around in a fast car doesn't seem fast anymore - everything seems to be moving slower
- cars don't look as good - something about the colour seems to be off.
::cries some more::
Seriously, I don't know what the deal is. I didn't have time to try out more games, so I'll have to wait until tomorrow evening for that. But, GTA:SA seems to be messed up.
Anyone else experience this?
Note: PS3 hooked up via HDMI to a Sony SXRD KDSR50XBR1.
- when I'm not moving around, it looks fine. About as good as I remember it on my PS2 and 36XBR250.
- when moving around, I see more jaggies and this weird comb effect. ::cries::
- the game seems to be loading faster, but I'm getting slowdown in areas/sections where there never was any. ::more crying::
- driving around in a fast car doesn't seem fast anymore - everything seems to be moving slower
- cars don't look as good - something about the colour seems to be off.
::cries some more::
Seriously, I don't know what the deal is. I didn't have time to try out more games, so I'll have to wait until tomorrow evening for that. But, GTA:SA seems to be messed up.
Anyone else experience this?
Zombie James
Banned
chespace said:
Don't forget to grab Gran Turismo HD
Took some pics of SF3 and DMC3. :arr
All pics are through HDMI/DVI cables on a Sony Grand Wega 720p LCD RP TV. TV is set to stretch images to widescreen (no cropping)
SF3:
SF3 Text:
VS Screen:
RYU vs CHUN
RYU vs CHUN 2
RYU vs CHUN 3
MAKOTO vs YUN
MAKOTO vs YUN 2
MAKOTO vs YUN interlace
This pic shows the interlacing you can see occasionally in SF3
Just a pic to show how it looks not stretched:
And DMC3: SE
All pics are through HDMI/DVI cables on a Sony Grand Wega 720p LCD RP TV. TV is set to stretch images to widescreen (no cropping)
SF3:
SF3 Text:
VS Screen:
RYU vs CHUN
RYU vs CHUN 2
RYU vs CHUN 3
MAKOTO vs YUN
MAKOTO vs YUN 2
MAKOTO vs YUN interlace
This pic shows the interlacing you can see occasionally in SF3
Just a pic to show how it looks not stretched:
And DMC3: SE
I think it's Karma stuff.Stinkles said:
Same reason why guys like DCharlie got PSPs full of badpixels and OMG what not while some of us got perfect screens even from Japanese launch units.
Probably same reason why first install of new Windows always ruins my PC too (I'm not kidding about this one, I've lost more then one HDD to those, and like a sucker I never learn to backup properly).