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PS3: Firmware 1.50 Is Up For U.S. Systems (BC Image Quality = Better)
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MiamiWesker
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Yama said:
I couldn't see any difference in SotC, I would switch back and forth and it looked near identical, I guess I would say the in game pro scan was a tiny tiny bit better.
Then I tried GoW, major difference. With the PS3 upscaing it was blurry, chaging to pro dramaticaly improved the picture. So I would have to say that if the game has the option of pro scan still use it.
I haven't upgraded yet. So what's the consensus? Is PS2 playback finally feasible?
I have two concerns:
1) The fact that the memory card adapter is so stupidly 1-way. Not being able to take newer PS2 saves from the PS3 hdd and dropping it back to real PS2 memory card is a REAL bummer.
2) I currently use my PS2, loaded with an HDD, to install my games, for reduced load times. There is no equivalent to this on the PS3, right?
I have two concerns:
1) The fact that the memory card adapter is so stupidly 1-way. Not being able to take newer PS2 saves from the PS3 hdd and dropping it back to real PS2 memory card is a REAL bummer.
2) I currently use my PS2, loaded with an HDD, to install my games, for reduced load times. There is no equivalent to this on the PS3, right?
Bearillusion
Banned
Have Sony ever spoken about the 720p issue with Bluray? How likely is it that in the future they will allow it?
Yama said:Someone was asking if you could use transparent gif's for icons, yes you can. They can match the PSN quality if done right. Hopefully it'll be for online soon, here is my evil Tatsuya.
...and for 2.0 to bring wallpapers, I mean it's so easy! :lol
How do you do this? I must've missed this in the update.
akachan ningen
Member
I3rand0 said:
Photoshop?
XMonkey said:My copy of SotC refuses to run now after the update. I just get the little loading thing, it fades away, and nothing
That's happened to me a few times playing God of War. It loads and loads and load forever. I had to quit out and try again and things worked OK after that.
I searched this thread and didn't see it, but it should be noted that they made some decent improvements to the browser with this update.
For instance, You Tube works much better now. The movies load reliably and you can access the controls on the Flash player front end. I spent a good amount of time watching some Robot Chicken clips without any issues.
For instance, You Tube works much better now. The movies load reliably and you can access the controls on the Flash player front end. I spent a good amount of time watching some Robot Chicken clips without any issues.
Crazymoogle
Member
Mejilan said:
I think so. I mean, everything looks great on my TV at least. I guess I should do some more thorough testing on the weekend but HDMI on my set looks pretty awesome.
That being said (and to address your concerns):
-adapter is still one way
-AFAIK hdloader is still not workable with the PSN hdd driver -_-. Some scattered talk of improved loading but obviously nowhere near the gains compared to the HD on stuff like DQ8.
Simply go to your user icon > triangle > information > click image > toggle Select from (Photo) and select from your list of stored images.I3rand0 said:
I'm sure you know how to transfer media, but just in case use a memory stick or USB device. Put images under a folder named PHOTO or select Display All.
If you meant the .gif icon, photoshop or any equivalent image editing program. If you need any I can link you or make one.
krypt0nian
Banned
My new PS3 user icon.
You're all welcome to snag it.
You're all welcome to snag it.
Rhazer Fusion
Member
Bearillusion said:
I heard a rumor that they are working on that next. Don't know how long it is going to take for them to fix it, but I think that would make alot of people quite happy. This firmware update is great. My PS2 games look even better than they did before. Well, maybe the HDMI cable I've bought for it recently is helping a little also.
lachesis
Member
Call me crazy, but I tried out a couple of different way on my TV w/ this new update - and I realized that keeping 480p option on w/ my component isn't that bad looking at all - I mean, it looks sharper and crispier than only 480i turned on. But overall, the image quality looks abit blurry in some cases - but the jaggies are definitely gone. (Konami's WE9, for example) with or w/o 480p turned on PS3.
I've seen someone mentioned that they've not fixed the problem w/ 480p option - but it might be different for each TV I guess.
- I tried out: REZ US, MGS3, Winning Eleven 9 US, Tekken 5 and SotC last night - and I only noticed a minimal difference but slightly sharper edges w/ 480p option turned on.
I've seen someone mentioned that they've not fixed the problem w/ 480p option - but it might be different for each TV I guess.
- I tried out: REZ US, MGS3, Winning Eleven 9 US, Tekken 5 and SotC last night - and I only noticed a minimal difference but slightly sharper edges w/ 480p option turned on.
Gametrailers has a comparison video of the before and after 1.5 firmware
http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?r=1&type=wmv&id=16541
http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?r=1&type=wmv&id=16541
Aeon712
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Yama said:Someone was asking if you could use transparent gif's for icons, yes you can. They can match the PSN quality if done right. Hopefully it'll be for online soon, here is my evil Tatsuya.
...and for 2.0 to bring wallpapers, I mean it's so easy! :lol
OK I'm confused, what exactly did you do? Did you find a way to get the PS3 to display ya very own background? If so tell me how please
fubarduck said:
While I'd love to see it improve, the PS3 is employing what most TV 'game modes' use for de-interlacing.
Using some sort of predictive de-interlacing is just not realistic. The R&D to do it well is expensive as hell ... and so is the processing speed to do it.
Think of how much your iScan VP50 costs
Onix said:While I'd love to see it improve, the PS3 is employing what most TV 'game modes' use for de-interlacing.
Using some sort of predictive de-interlacing is just not realistic. The R&D to do it well is expensive as hell ... and so is the processing speed to do it.
Think of how much your iScan VP50 costs
The predictive de-interlacing algorithm in the VP50 is simply an extra in an already feature-rich scaling device.
The XRGB-2 came out 7 years ago, costed $200 at the time of release, and has a perfect predictive de-interlacing algorithm.
It's not hard, and it's been done before. I don't think it would be hard to implement a decade-old technology into a "next-generation" device.
fubarduck said:
The problem is, I'm not sure many of the algorithms employed in previous devices were designed to handle 60fps de-interlacing. Everything they were trying to de-interlace was either movie or video content (24fps and 30fps respectively).
The XRGB-2 is a special case though ... I think it did handle 60fps well?
BuddyC said:PS3 is region free for PS3 games, so no worries there. However, PS2 and PSOne games, there's no way to circumvent the region coding of a machine . US machines can only play US PS2 games, JP machines can only play JP PS2 game, etc
That blows. I'm now going to have to buy another MASSYSTEMS stick for PS2 and PC, and then the VF5 Import stick just for VF5. What's even more sucky is the fact that Samurai Spirits Tenka probably looks better running through the PS3 via HDMI than it does through the PS2 via component
isamu said:That blows. I'm now going to have to buy another MASSYSTEMS stick for PS2 and PC, and then the VF5 Import stick just for VF5. What's even more sucky is the fact that Samurai Spirits Tenka probably looks better running through the PS3 via HDMI than it does through the PS2 via component
Stop pretending like you actually play games, gosh.
MadOdorMachine
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This thread has gotten too big to read all the way through so I've got a few questions I was hoping someone could answer for me. I'm really concerned about one game in particular working since it's still my most played game - Need For Speed: Hot Pursuit 2. A big chunk of me getting a PS3 is riding on that one game. I know it sounds crazy, but I like the game that much. Thanks in advance for the help.
1. I've heard only 98% of old games play on PS3. Can anyone verify if NFS:HP2 is compatible?
2. How is the upscaling of PS2 games on HDTVs? I'm really curious how it compares to Xbox 360s upscaling.
a.) Do all playable PS2 games upscale to 720p regardless of whether or not they originally supported progressive scan on PS2?
b.) Does the PS3 convert games into widescreen?
c.) Does the PS3 allow games to stretch to widescreen or are the games that didn't originally support it forced to be displayed in fullscreen? In other words if my tv is set to 16X9 and the game doesn't support it, will it stretch or will I be forced to have black bars on the side?
d.) Does the PS3 add in any extra anti aliasing to minimize jagged edges as the result of being blown up to a higher resolution?
3. Can I transfer game saves to the PS3 hard drive if I buy a PS2 memory card adapter or do I need to keep using my PS2 memory card?
1. I've heard only 98% of old games play on PS3. Can anyone verify if NFS:HP2 is compatible?
2. How is the upscaling of PS2 games on HDTVs? I'm really curious how it compares to Xbox 360s upscaling.
a.) Do all playable PS2 games upscale to 720p regardless of whether or not they originally supported progressive scan on PS2?
b.) Does the PS3 convert games into widescreen?
c.) Does the PS3 allow games to stretch to widescreen or are the games that didn't originally support it forced to be displayed in fullscreen? In other words if my tv is set to 16X9 and the game doesn't support it, will it stretch or will I be forced to have black bars on the side?
d.) Does the PS3 add in any extra anti aliasing to minimize jagged edges as the result of being blown up to a higher resolution?
3. Can I transfer game saves to the PS3 hard drive if I buy a PS2 memory card adapter or do I need to keep using my PS2 memory card?
1. http://www.us.playstation.com/Support/CompatibleStatusMadOdorMachine said:
2. It doesn't, the PS3 displays PS2 games as if it were physically a PS2.
a) no
b) no
c) no
d) no
3. Yes
MadOdorMachine
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Thanks. I can't believe it doesn't upscale though. Is Sony working on that?kenta said:
Mana Knight
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I never tried my copy of Need for Speed Hot Pursuit 2 on my PS3, but I'll see.MadOdorMachine said:
One reason I posted in this thread is because I found one incompatible game which isn't listed on Sony's site. I tested Stella Dues two days ago, and the image was completely off center (Half my TV screen was black, while the other half have the imaged smashed). I just wanted to let people know who only own a PS3 and have considered Stella Dues (if they can find). I was worried my PS3 broke at first, so I put Suikoden Tactics in and it worked.
Leidenfrost
Member
kenta said:
Not quite. On my particular fussy HDTV. PS2 hardware displayed that chewed look on most non-progressive titles identically to my pre-1.5 PS3. Now the image quality is fine. Therefore the PS3 must be doing something with the output that my HDTV likes that my PS2 didn't. No idea what, specifically, though.
Mana Knight said:
Were you testing on the TV via HDMI or component? My TV has timing issue with PS3 via HDMI (and unfortunately the crappy Dell TV doesn't have the options to adjust the timing) so the image is shifted to the right for all games and about 10% of the screen is cut off if I use HDMI.
plagiarize
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it's a good thing because they used to look WORSE than playing on a physical ps2 and now they don't.Shawn said:
also, you get the option of playing everything in 480p now, which on an lcd tv should be at least a marginal improvement.