jmaine_ph
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Ready at Dawn responds to "concern" over The Order: 1886 campaign length
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Higgins113
Banned
Three entire, continuous, chapters with a total of 1:51 minutes of gameplay...
Chapter 12 - Total | 5:37 --> Cutscenes | 5:37
Chapter 13 - Total | 5:17 --> Gameplay | 0:04 - Cutscenes | 5:13
Chapter 14 - Total | 5:31 --> Gameplay | 1:47 - Cutscenes | 3:44
Also...
Chapter 16 - Total | 9:23 --> QTE | 2:33 - Cutscenes | 6:50
I'm not sure thats the best way to pace a story.
Chapter 12 - Total | 5:37 --> Cutscenes | 5:37
Chapter 13 - Total | 5:17 --> Gameplay | 0:04 - Cutscenes | 5:13
Chapter 14 - Total | 5:31 --> Gameplay | 1:47 - Cutscenes | 3:44
Also...
Chapter 16 - Total | 9:23 --> QTE | 2:33 - Cutscenes | 6:50
I'm not sure thats the best way to pace a story.
You completed RE in under 2,5 hours the first time? I'm having a hard time believing that.
Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
Wow, I won't comment on the whole article but the comparison with a movie's length and its quality is ridiculously off base. Oranges = apples
marcincz
Member
I have the same feelings about it.Probably game reviews will be around 6-7 or even less. Negativity around this title is incredible and I completely don't understand it. I will be very surprised if metacritic scores beat >7.
Had to fix that for you, because I think me and you (and others) all decide differently on what makes a game good.
Just like metacritic and other review sites are just opinion hubs and not actual facts
Unless we are talking about aliens colonial Marines, that shit is trash
Killing_Joke
Member
God damn this thread is sad. I can understand the frustration of a short game that you've looked forward to, but 29 pages? you can rent, borrow, price drop or not play at all. What exactly is the issue? They were pretty blunt about the game being heavy cinematic. Now we're shocked that the game is...heavy cinamtic?
DryvBy
Member
But this thread is specifically about the length. I think it's fair to simply say that this isn't worth your money if it's truly this short.
Wolfenstein was a game I loved, but I hated the price. When I got a platinum trophy in under a week (and beat the game in a weekend), I was a little annoyed by it. So I'm really curious as to replay value and length of this. There's other games coming out and I want to invest my $60 in a return.
-MD-
Member
Again, this is a really bad example and you continue to keep using it.
It looks really dumb.
Stop using bad examples, any new first time resident evil player won't be completing the game in that timeframe it will take them a lot longer and you know it.
It's a video game forum. People shit their pants over frame rates around these parts. Let the meltdowns happen wherever, whenever. Nestle in with your preferred snack and enjoy the show.
Don't speak ill of wolfenstein, that was 2014's GOTY to me lol
That game had replay value too, it was fun, hoping for the same here.
Oh yeah it had no SP or couch co-op as well
Idea for the order OT, post your hours, I know it will take me 10 hours to beat, I won't be playing on easy and I'm not as good at these games as I use to be.
Mikey Jr.
Member
Ugh, these mixed in impressions don't sound great. I don't get rad. I mean, these cutscene heavy games will never review well. They must have known that.
Now they have to defend themselves about game length.
Dunno. I'm even hesitant to spend 60 bucks, and I was hyped for this game too.
Now they have to defend themselves about game length.
Dunno. I'm even hesitant to spend 60 bucks, and I was hyped for this game too.
Haloid1177
Banned
Honestly, with the way it looks, if it can tell a Telltale level story while running well, I'm happy.
You're more than entitled to support whatever you want.
I just don't see why anyone would jump up and down and proudly support this game--especially when there are so many different platforms offering so many unique and interesting gameplay experiences.
Money and time are finite so we have to choose carefully how we allocate both. I'd rather support games that offer deep and rich gameplay, innovative experiences, tons of content, and treat the paying consumer with respect.
I see. Sorry then, I completely misread.
Give me a fucking break. Holy shit.
No excuse? They hardly got the single player finished yet you people want it pushed back again for what? You will find a reason to shit on it for being tacked on
Did wolfenstein have unlockables challenge rooms?
Nope, just a fun single player game. It could be done
Personally, the pricing has nothing to do with the case. I just want the game to be longer than 3 hours (gameplay). Especially since the replay value is almost zero.
How have you jumped to that conclusion? There's some GAFers who have already completed the game a second time. So that replayability comment is absolute nonsense. How replayable it is, is subjective based on how much people enjoy it the first time, want to collect and read all the articles newspapers, objects etc, collect trophies, or fancy an experience on a different difficulty. Some people will replay it (Osiris, Rapier, Perinium etc), others won't (Nbnt for example).
And are you still ignoring all the other completition times?
So we won't see any AGDQ videos of this game for several reasons, right?
cripterion
Member
Well yeah no game gets unanimous praise.
You being interested in the game doesn't mean you gotta be defensive about it. Or are you trying to justify your purchase? No one said you wouldn't have fun with it or that you wouldn't get your money's worth.
GeordieMark
Member
The same way you have jumped to the conclusion that his comment is in some way objectionable; from impressions.
You only want to acknowledge the positives and others are only looking at the negatives.
DryvBy
Member
Hey, I loved Wolfenstein! I just wish they'd had a reason to go back. $60 was hard to bite after I finished everything so quickly. But at least it was a quality short game.
Difference is I'm not saying there is zero replayability, just as I'm not saying there is replayability. As I said above, it is a subjective thing that will differ from person to person, and that you simply cannot know till you play the game yourself.
too many shitty cutscenes
I'm not. Ok, let's bump that to 4 hours since, yes, I will be collecting all the collectibles. Still, that's not very long.
This probably goes back to the reveal trailer of the game and my love for Victorian England/London. I had foresaw a huge game, where I could explore London in multiple paths or better yet, a semi open world. That never happened though. As the game was later revealed to be a cinematic/linear title, with absolutely no exploring, except soaking in the atmosphere (has become a running joke right now for a reason).
Exactly my thoughts.
Krusenstern
Banned
UncleCross
Member
This has to be a joke post.
Jarod McChicken
Member
Strangely, I thought that when we are talking about a narrative driven game, the cutscenes would be considered to be an integral part of the experience. Trying to downplay the work of RAD even more by dissociating sounds a little petty to me.
In the case of a TPS like The Order, that would also lead us to conclude that a video game is only worthy of the name during the seconds we are shooting somebody. The rest of the work don't deserve our money and our attention.
In the case of a TPS like The Order, that would also lead us to conclude that a video game is only worthy of the name during the seconds we are shooting somebody. The rest of the work don't deserve our money and our attention.
derExperte
Member
Speedrunners have broken totally linear games before and used glitches to skip long sections. They're very inventive.
So you think that the dev not being upfront with consumers about the nature of the gameplay and the game's length is acceptable? What's going on here classic obfuscation and misdirection.
As someone who just "watched" the game on YT through a Walkthrough and not played it (so, take this in the right way), I think this is one of the main worries about the game. The second half of the game has just three chapters out of eight where there are "purer" gameplay sessions (I mean not QTEs; probably the term "purer" is not denigratory against them per-se). There's a chapter where the gameplay session is far lower than cutscenes, three chapters that are made only of cutscenes (which is...meh) and one of them composed of cutscenes and QTEs. And, to make things worse, it's the final chapter
and the QTE is the final boss fight
-MD-
Member
People saying there's zero replayability just mean there is nothing else in the game outside of the campaign. You don't unlock anything after finishing it, the only thing you can do is change the difficulty and play through again. When people talk replayability they're looking for new game+, new modes, unlockable weapons, costumes etc.
If you wanted to you could say every game in the world has replayability from simply playing through it again.
GeordieMark
Member
That is his opinion. Let him have it. It makes zero difference to you.
You say yourself that it is a subjective thing.
I don't get why you feel the need to defend this game so vociferously? Its Sony's job to market the game. If you like it and others don't, that's fine.
You will never change the minds of the people you are responding to.
How have they not been upfront about the nature of the gameplay? This has been marketed as an extremely cinematic game from day 1. They have shown QTEs and talked about their new QTE approach in the very first showing. They said story is paramount.
Do you have any interest in this game at all? You seem to have not followed it at all and are making very low information posts.
They have been pretty upfront about the nature of the gameplay. What's your issue with the gameplay anyway? It's a standard TPS with some QTE. Games length seems to average out at about 9 hours for most Gaffers which seems OK to me. Not great, but nothing to get overly melodramatic about.
A long playthough of RE2 is only about 5-6 hours tops, even for a newbie. Where it more than makes up for it, is the zapping system, second playthrough with the other character. There are HUGE differences and the 2nd playthrough is a longer game.
I need to play RE2 again. Thanks a lot.
I dont understand how any one would have issue with the length of a game. It should be how good is it? Surely?
If the order was good enough I would buy it at 2 hours long and 40 minutes of gameplay. It would need to be massively replayable if I was expected to pay full price tho
If the order was good enough I would buy it at 2 hours long and 40 minutes of gameplay. It would need to be massively replayable if I was expected to pay full price tho
Interfectum
Member
Trying to catch up on this thread... wow this shit is legendary and needs to be archived. Some of you "concerned" gamers should really be ashamed of your posts.
Well, this is the "real" play through time perhaps if you count from save to save. But this doesn't add all the hours you "lost" from dying and failing. Then it's definitely way longer.