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Redout |OT| - #WipEout #F-Zero
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GIANKRATOS
Member
That's it, thanks for linking.
Played for about 45 minutes, already have some issues;
- I don't know what it is but I can't stand the motion blur in this. I can turn it off only by turning off all the post processing which I don't want.
- The settings are pretty abysmal all around. I can't remember the last time I've played a game didn't have full screen options or specific resolutions. No keybindings or button mapping either unless I'm missing something.
- The AI tapping you and spinning you around feels really shitty.
- Not a big fan of the soundtrack so far.
Outside of that it controls really well and is pretty fun, but I don't know about dropping $30 on this. I'll dig into the ini files tomorrow and hopefully find some fixes to some of my complaints.
- I don't know what it is but I can't stand the motion blur in this. I can turn it off only by turning off all the post processing which I don't want.
- The settings are pretty abysmal all around. I can't remember the last time I've played a game didn't have full screen options or specific resolutions. No keybindings or button mapping either unless I'm missing something.
- The AI tapping you and spinning you around feels really shitty.
- Not a big fan of the soundtrack so far.
Outside of that it controls really well and is pretty fun, but I don't know about dropping $30 on this. I'll dig into the ini files tomorrow and hopefully find some fixes to some of my complaints.
potatohead
Member
I ended up buying Formula Fusion on Early Access with Steam, pretty sweet.
Basic mechanics are straight up Wipeout, so at least I know they have the Wipeout core gameplay down pat still.
Couldn't turn off the motion blur in game for some reason though, at 60 fps don't really need such heavy motion blur.
Basic mechanics are straight up Wipeout, so at least I know they have the Wipeout core gameplay down pat still.
Couldn't turn off the motion blur in game for some reason though, at 60 fps don't really need such heavy motion blur.
Shadowhaxor
Member
I mentioned the lack of being able to change the resolution in my review. Since it is running on the unreal engine 4, you can change that via ini. They are going to be addressing the aggressive AI and mapping in a future update.
Ini tweaking - http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=756966739
Thanks, yeah I saw that this morning.
I played it for another hour and I think I'm just going to refund it. The core handling and sense of speed is great, but everything else isn't doing much for me. Maybe I'll try again down the road when they tweak things, also hopefully they think about putting a motion blur toggle in.
gingerbeardman
Member
Is refunding after playing like that considered good or bad form?
Thanks for the link, but for some reason I cannot get those tweaks to work. No matter how I edit the configuration file, the game always starts at 1080p on a 4K display/desktop. The developers definitely need to patch it.
QuantumSquid
Member
Depends on who you ask.
The most immediate difference would be the sense of weight and momentum. In F-ZERO you can play in a very twitchy and reactive manner. There are few situations in F-Zero where an action you've taken leaves you committed and unable to correct. This isn't the case WipEout, RedOut and the like, where throwing your ship left results in just the sort of weight distribution you'd expect, and pulling back from that is anything but instant.
FAST Racing NEO sits on the nonsense side of the spectrum.
It's a collection of gameplay mechanics and choices that honestly don't sit well with each other imo.
Shadowhaxor
Member
If you didn't like it then you didn't like it. Now if you played it enough and figured that you'd never play it again after two hours, then it is what it is.
Playing like what? I logged 90 minutes which is under Steam's 2 hour refund time and had valid issues with the game, some of which I even explained here. I don't think that's "bad form".
gingerbeardman
Member
No offence meant. I didn't know that Steam had a 2 hour refund window.
I'm a sci-fi racer fan not a PC user
I'm a sci-fi racer fan not a PC user
No offence meant. I didn't know that Steam had a 2 hour refund window.
I'm a sci-fi racer fan not a PC user
Gotcha. I thought you might've been assuming something else of me based off recent interesting discussion concerning refund methods, my mistake.
I think I saw a setting for game res = desktop res in that same ini file, try changing that to true. You could try making the file read only as well, I've had to do that before for UE games.
Anyone know what Speed Trap +100 is for in the score mode?
Finally understood how you get more points in score mode and I'm loving it now - you get the +10 for boost, +200 for perfect lap, +50 for a clean lap, +100 for best time (which I think means you had the best lap time (per lap) out of the racers), then you get a bonus for position (over 1000 for #1).... but I occasionally saw speed trap popup and can't think what it is, anyone know?
Finally understood how you get more points in score mode and I'm loving it now - you get the +10 for boost, +200 for perfect lap, +50 for a clean lap, +100 for best time (which I think means you had the best lap time (per lap) out of the racers), then you get a bonus for position (over 1000 for #1).... but I occasionally saw speed trap popup and can't think what it is, anyone know?
Redout Patch #1 Changelist
DESIGN AND BALANCING
- slightly increased wall damage, very slightly increased wall friction
- slightly nerfed Turbo Boost powerup
- level 5 EMP Blast recalibrated: boost power was excessive
- increased Koenigsswerth speed curve and energy regen
- slightly increased ESA-AGR speed curve
- slightly increased Asera speed curve
- slightly nerfed Sulha and Conqueror speed curves
- Slipstream Enhancer powerup was broken: fixed and recalibrated (more powerful and extended range)
- increased Energy Drainer range and effect
- slightly nerfed the Augmented Energy Turbine powerup
- reduced base $ reward in higher classes, slightly increased rewards for medals (GIT GUD)
- slightly increased ship upgrade costs
- adjusted AI difficulty progression for a better onboarding experience and more consistent difficulty
- fixed bug for which engine upgrades for class 2/3 ships slightly deteriorated performances
- adjusted gold, silver and bronze for *a lot* of events, fixed some platinums that were obviously wrong (GOTTA GIT GUD)
- Fixed some career events: "CALIMA PRESSURE RUN" was not taking place in Calima, "COASTLINE PURE" was not taking place on Bridges, "HOT SANDS" event was in f***ing Abruzzo
VISUALS
- fixed bug for which flyzone limits were not visible in Volcano
- fixed bug for which your ship would become invisible when restarting a career event during an explosion animation (too bad because it was cool)
- fixed bug for which opponent indicators would appear even with the HUD option set to off
- improved visibility for Survival obstacles
- added motion blur option and unlimited FPS cap
VR
- added 3rd person VR camera
- reduced intensity of broken glass effect
- fixed blocking bug in Rat Race Trial
- fixed matchmaking screen
- fixed some pseudorandom multiplayer crashes
ONLINE
- added visibility for active matches when searching for servers
- fixed lap time, it would count the wrong time after the first lap
- fixed bug that caused the opponent indicator on top would disappear after the first player completed the race
- fixed bug that made impossible to change camera or look back after the first player completed the race
- fixed bug that caused the event level to appear as 0
OTHER BUGS
- fixed bug for which your position would randomly decrease during some Boss events
- fixed bug for which strafing was allowed during pre-start countdown
- fixed achievements "Calling Houston", "Flawless" and "Enlightened", now you can actually brag, congratulations.
DESIGN AND BALANCING
- slightly increased wall damage, very slightly increased wall friction
- slightly nerfed Turbo Boost powerup
- level 5 EMP Blast recalibrated: boost power was excessive
- increased Koenigsswerth speed curve and energy regen
- slightly increased ESA-AGR speed curve
- slightly increased Asera speed curve
- slightly nerfed Sulha and Conqueror speed curves
- Slipstream Enhancer powerup was broken: fixed and recalibrated (more powerful and extended range)
- increased Energy Drainer range and effect
- slightly nerfed the Augmented Energy Turbine powerup
- reduced base $ reward in higher classes, slightly increased rewards for medals (GIT GUD)
- slightly increased ship upgrade costs
- adjusted AI difficulty progression for a better onboarding experience and more consistent difficulty
- fixed bug for which engine upgrades for class 2/3 ships slightly deteriorated performances
- adjusted gold, silver and bronze for *a lot* of events, fixed some platinums that were obviously wrong (GOTTA GIT GUD)
- Fixed some career events: "CALIMA PRESSURE RUN" was not taking place in Calima, "COASTLINE PURE" was not taking place on Bridges, "HOT SANDS" event was in f***ing Abruzzo
VISUALS
- fixed bug for which flyzone limits were not visible in Volcano
- fixed bug for which your ship would become invisible when restarting a career event during an explosion animation (too bad because it was cool)
- fixed bug for which opponent indicators would appear even with the HUD option set to off
- improved visibility for Survival obstacles
- added motion blur option and unlimited FPS cap
VR
- added 3rd person VR camera
- reduced intensity of broken glass effect
- fixed blocking bug in Rat Race Trial
- fixed matchmaking screen
- fixed some pseudorandom multiplayer crashes
ONLINE
- added visibility for active matches when searching for servers
- fixed lap time, it would count the wrong time after the first lap
- fixed bug that caused the opponent indicator on top would disappear after the first player completed the race
- fixed bug that made impossible to change camera or look back after the first player completed the race
- fixed bug that caused the event level to appear as 0
OTHER BUGS
- fixed bug for which your position would randomly decrease during some Boss events
- fixed bug for which strafing was allowed during pre-start countdown
- fixed achievements "Calling Houston", "Flawless" and "Enlightened", now you can actually brag, congratulations.
I think I may have figured out what's going on, and I'd wager it's happening to (perhaps a whole lot of) other people, but they haven't realized it yet. The game only launches after a chain of executables that begins with "redout.exe", and ends with "redout-Win64-Shipping." The former launches at the desired resolution, but somewhere in between the two the resolution switches to 1080p.
I don't have the knowledge to get around/troubleshoot something like that. I've tried running "redout-Win64-Shipping" directly, but it still goes through the chain, and fails to launch the game at 4K. :/
The game defaults to using SteamVR and Rift owners don't get the option of choosing "Other VR" mode to use the Oculus Runtime directly. I saw a tip somewhere that mentioned if you uninstall SteamVR, it will fall back to using Oculus Runtime. I've been having other issues with SteamVR so I decided to try this and see if it worked. It did, and it also had a huge performance benefit. I was able to turn up several graphics options. And it could be my imagination, but the UI looked a little more crisp as well.
Any other Rift owners want to check this out and report back for a sanity check?
Any other Rift owners want to check this out and report back for a sanity check?
Baleoce
Member
I agree it definitely deserves more love. It's a great game. I wouldn't say that it scratches my F-Zero itch or is a must for fans of that franchise, but for what it is, it's very good indeed. Not without it's issues, but I can forgive the ones it has.
ffejeromdiks
Banned
Man I fucking LOVE this game.
When i first started it I was immediately met with crushing disappointment, felt like I had wasted my money cause it's the kind of game I'm probably not going to play much of...
I was amazed at how it looked and felt though so I kept at it, getting frustrated, then less so, and less...until an hour and a half later it finally all "clicked" and I was drifting around corners at a 1000 mph with a huge shit eating grin on my face.
Easily the most satisfying racing controls I've played with in over a decade.
Everyone is noting Wipeout/F zero, but I'm getting MAJOR Star Wars episode 1 podracer vibes from it, I loved that game as a kid and this is the only thing since then that has really scratched that itch, it also helps that there's a bonafide podracer looking car to select lol.
When i first started it I was immediately met with crushing disappointment, felt like I had wasted my money cause it's the kind of game I'm probably not going to play much of...
I was amazed at how it looked and felt though so I kept at it, getting frustrated, then less so, and less...until an hour and a half later it finally all "clicked" and I was drifting around corners at a 1000 mph with a huge shit eating grin on my face.
Easily the most satisfying racing controls I've played with in over a decade.
Everyone is noting Wipeout/F zero, but I'm getting MAJOR Star Wars episode 1 podracer vibes from it, I loved that game as a kid and this is the only thing since then that has really scratched that itch, it also helps that there's a bonafide podracer looking car to select lol.
Baleoce
Member
Yup, I definitely agree with this. Loved playing that on the N64.
EdwardTivrusky
Member
Oh shit, i don't need comments like this! I loved Podracer on PC with my new VooDoo Banshee and i even went out and bought a flight stick for it. My housemate played it then went out and bought the game and a cheapo flight stick too. We became amazingly good at it and he even picked up on my habit of mumbling "Don't like it, don't like it,..." when going stupidly fast. Good times. Makes me think back to XG3 on GC, the only other racing game i've really gotten into aside from the first few Wipeout games.
YUP, It's the only vehicle I've used so far. My N64 was the Star Wars Episode 1 Racer bundle and I played the hell out of it. I still remember when I finally beat and unlocked Sebulba.
ffejeromdiks
Banned
Just unlocked class IV vehicles....
pretty done
Member
It will get a bunch of love when it's not $35. My group all has it wishlisted
VVV Mars VG
Member
Still loving this, the SRRL races are awesome, an inspired idea. If you haven't seen them in action, its worth a look: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIziWvA5ZVI
gingerbeardman
Member
What's SRRL?
Shadowhaxor
Member
Solar Redout Racing League. It takes all of the tracks of a circuit and combines them into one massive track. It's fun!
gingerbeardman
Member
Cool!
I just got the game yesterday and I have played it around two hours.
It not only scratches that WipEout itch, but it feels so good to control after you learn to use both thumbsticks properly that it might just create it's own.
The only downside so far is that the game doesn't do a good job explaining to you the controllers or easing you into the it. Other than that I'm loving it!
It not only scratches that WipEout itch, but it feels so good to control after you learn to use both thumbsticks properly that it might just create it's own.
The only downside so far is that the game doesn't do a good job explaining to you the controllers or easing you into the it. Other than that I'm loving it!
VVV Mars VG
Member
Need to get back on this since the update, good to see the developers working hard on improvements. Made another video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxflhaxcaD0 really enjoyed my run through the game, I just wish it had more locations.
OfTheOverflow
Member
Can't wait to pick this up when it goes on sale and is a lliitttllee bit cheaper; until then I have Formula Fusion. Anyone else still playing Redout?
I've gotten all the upgrades and ships and silver or higher for the game and I'll be going for gold on the events but I won't stop after that. It'll be that game I fire up to satisfy that high speed flow itch, like wipeout did. Looking forward to doing mostly time trials once the events are down. They seem to be updating it quite regularly too.
I went back to formula fusion which I only got briefly before red out and didn't play for a while...and it's just not there yet at all in comparison imo.
RaySpencer
Member
Oh man, I need to pick this up for cockpit VR. That sounds nuts, haha.
PeterOliver
Member
Does anyone have any information about how Redout runs on lower end hardware? Some UE4 games let you turn down the rendering resolution and squeak out a lot of performance, so I'm curious about that.
I'm not sure how it will run or look but you can turn down rendering to 40%.
PeterOliver
Member
Thanks!
afternoon delight
Member
I just heard about this game in the 'hidden gems' thread and I'm disappointed it's taken me this long.
The game looks wonderful and much needed.More_Badass
Member
New tracks plus customization in new update, that upgrades the game to Redout Enhanced Edition
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2m06oKmaxs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2m06oKmaxs
Melchiah
Member
Looks great. Can't wait for this to come out on consoles.
Just played the demo a few times. Definitively gonna buy it especially because it worked so well with my OR. Weird thing though, it suddenly appeared as 25% off for a price of$26.24. However when I add it to my cart it it has the old price of $34 something. Is this a glitch or is Steam prepping it for a sale?
EDIT:
Yep-it's on sale. Bought!
EDIT:
Yep-it's on sale. Bought!
Demo changed my mind on this game, bought it and I'm having a blast but I still crash into walls quite a bit.
I'm having trouble figuring this game out, is it a case of F-Zero where you never use the brake and I'm just not turning correctly or do I have some other way to pick speed back up quickly after slowing down for a turn?
It's weird that I'm having so much trouble with this. Also, how do you get platinum medals?
All that said, the game definitely doesn't really feel like Wipeout nor F-Zero, it's some weird middle-ish ground. Either way, it's gorgeous and the sense of speed is fantastic.
I'm having trouble figuring this game out, is it a case of F-Zero where you never use the brake and I'm just not turning correctly or do I have some other way to pick speed back up quickly after slowing down for a turn?
It's weird that I'm having so much trouble with this. Also, how do you get platinum medals?
All that said, the game definitely doesn't really feel like Wipeout nor F-Zero, it's some weird middle-ish ground. Either way, it's gorgeous and the sense of speed is fantastic.
digoutyoursoul
Member
When is this coming to PS4 and Xbox?