KratosEnergyDrink
Member
We are talking about cents here, not dollars, let alone 10$
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Rime comes out in May. Costs £10 more on Nintendo Switch.
- Thread starter Savantcore
- Start date
We are talking about cents here, not dollars, let alone 10$
Nintendo is gouging Switch owners with all the overpriced accessories instead.
Every game apart from Just Dance and Puyo Puyo Tetris
Not much else out yet, but I guess that World of Goo may also cost more than the 3.99 EUR they are asking for on other platforms.
Alternative facts?
Just Dance is pricier because it's a late port. Come on now, you know it.
And Puyo Puyo justify his price with some goodies included in the box.
Phillips455
Member
Unless your in Europe, where physical and digital are £10 more for the switch AND there is no bonus goodies with the physical edition.
Every game apart from Just Dance and Puyo Puyo Tetris
Not much else out yet, but I guess that World of Goo may also cost more than the 3.99 EUR they are asking for on other platforms.
Alternative facts?
Puyo Puyo has Digital parity with the other versions (at least in the US). The physical is more but most of us are fine with that.
Just Dance 2017 Gold Edition (Includes Just Dance Unlimited subscription) - PS4 $59.99
is comparable to:
Just Dance 2017 Switch (Includes Just Dance Unlimited subscription) Switch $59.99
The only other console World of Goo is on is the Wii and I think it was 15 or 20 dollars. I totally expect it to be that price or lower. It is an established fact that PC games will quickly sell for less than consoles and I do not think anyone is arguing that the price needs to stay consistent for the entire life of a product. World of Goo on PC/Mac launched at $20.
But I could be missing something. I'm not claiming to be an expert.
Rime is also a late port, so it should be pricier? Yeah, that argument doesn't seem very logical. And the retail version of Puyo Puyo Tetris doesn't come with any goodies (the keychain isn't worth 10 USD anyway) in Europe, nor does the digital version. Yet both are 10 EUR more expensive than the PS4 version.
Puyo Puyo Tetris digitally is 39.99 EUR on Switch in Europe and 29.99 EUR on PS4.
Just Dance 2017 on Switch is 59.99 EUR, on Wii U 49.99 EUR.
World of Goo is 3.99 EUR on Android and 15 EUR on Wii, on PC it's 10 EUR right now. Will it be 3.99 EUR on Switch? Highly doubtful.
Different prices on different platforms do happen. Rime isn't an isolated incidence, and it's not even the only example on Switch.
Don't compare mobile storefronts to console storefronts. They are two different beasts entirely.
Herb Alpert
Banned
who is "they"?
Herb Alpert
Banned
watch the game make terrible numbers and the lesson learned be "well, our games don't sell on nintendo platforms"
Just Dance 2017 was $59.99 on PS4 and Xbox One when it launched, so being $59.99 when it launches on Switch makes sense.
As for Puyo Puyo Tetris, it's doing exactly what Rime SHOULD have done. $39.99 for retail Switch version with extra goodies, $29.99 for digital Switch version and retail/digital on PS4.
Neither of those games are pulling the bullshit Rime is.
So are PS4 and Switch, so are PC and PS4. That's why we see different prices across the board. No need to make an artificial differentiation now. For a game like World of Goo, using a tablet or the Switch touch screen is basically the same user experience.
So where was the outcry when the Wii U version was cheaper for Just Dance?
And for Puyo Puyo Tetris read my post again, you seem to have missed something there or just not read very carefully. It's not the case in Europe.
I'd say this has a high probability of happening. There's no way they're gonna take responsibility for this. If it does well, that'll just give them incentive to do this again.
Herb Alpert
Banned
Human resource and little inferno cost 10 on Wii U,this is how much I expect WoG on Switch. If there's some buy all three discount I'll seriously consider it.
Or the Deus Ex Wii U situation. Game was full price on the Wii U and released on the other systems for almost half the price. Yeah...makes a whole lot of sense. Sadly, I bought it. Won't do that again.
No, Switch is in the same group as PS4/Xbox One as a console. That's why it's ok to compare them imo, not a mobile device where games are mostly F2p and average game prices are peanuts.
Dwight Schrute
Member
Went from buy to no buy.
Yeah, then it comes down to your artificial grouping scheme then. I certainly don't see why I should pay for a Switch port twice as much as on Android, especially when it's the same experience (which it is in case of World of Goo).
Well your opinion is based on your own artificial grouping scheme.
Yeah...you're not gonna really see mobile pricing on consoles. So if you're expecting that, then you're gonna be disappointed.
There's no grouping scheme involved. What are you referring to?
And you won't see universally the same prices across PS4/X1/Switch either. So if you're expecting that, then you're gonna be disappointed.
You saying that because the game is the similar to the mobile experience then it should be the same price as the mobile game.
The developers of this game.
It will be mostly even across the board barring some back end deals and sales. So the expectation going forward (at least in the U.S.) is that games released at the same time for multiple systems will generally be priced the same. There will be some outliers and well cartridges vs. discs. Even so, I think it's fair to expect games to be priced the same for different consoles. This is why this thread even exists in the first place.
Herb Alpert
Banned
Ho OK. I agree then.
Yes. Why pay more for exactly the same experience when there's no additional value offered?
We shall see. Given that this is already the third example of a Switch game being more expensive, at least in Europe, despite having just launched and not having a big library yet, is a bit worrying.
stargateheaven
Member
The reward for getting the game later is having a more expensive game.
Claiming it's not taking advantage of a new released console.. i just dont believe you
I don't have a switch yet but i'll be buying it on another platform if i had switch or not.
Claiming it's not taking advantage of a new released console.. i just dont believe you
I don't have a switch yet but i'll be buying it on another platform if i had switch or not.
Do we already know the digital pricing of the Switch version? I really thought it was 29 Euro digitally.
I agree with you, but if the switch version cost is in line with other console and PC costs, then I can at least understand and accept why they have chosen the price.
a hypothetical multiformat World of Goo should cost the same across current gen consoles and Rime should cost the same across current gen consoles. That's my stance.
For the last 20+ pages we have been talking about the console versions. I know you have a point you want to make but the complaint that people are having here, in this thread you are in, is that the same generation console versions of a game are priced differently. We are not seeing different prices across the board for console releases. They are nearly always at parity upon launch.
Just Dance 2017 on the Wii U did not contain the Just Dance Unlimited Features.
I am sorry that Europe is getting a bad deal on digital Puyo. The US is not. When people bring up the price difference for Digital and Physical Puyo they are not talking about the European version. They are trying to disprove the argument that the publisher is being forced to make digital and physical the same price. Maybe in Europe this is in fact the case. In the US it is not.
Because mobile games "can't"/"don't" work with normal price structures. Which sucks and why I'd never release a game on mobile. The fact that people bitched about a damn $10 Mario game with no microtransactions is just insane to me. Anyway, that's a discussion for a different time. Different market, different expectations.
Well, Europe is crazy, too. No idea why they jack things up over there, but hopefully players fight back against that stuff. In the U.S. it's been basically the same across the board. I think that's the expectation and I'm pretty sure it'll stay that way, with the exception of pubs/devs who feel like they should break this mold for whatever reason. I hope those guys are met with low sales just to let them know that this just isn't the right way to do this sort of thing.
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/press...Tetris_Vorbestellung_jetzt_moumlglichnbsp.php
Are you sure? "Grab your friends and family because it's time to dance! The biggest music video game franchise of all time is back*, with over 60 million units sold**. Just Dance 2017 brings you over 40 new tracks, six game modes, updated content all year long and access to 200+ songs through Just Dance Unlimited! 3-month trial of Just Dance Unlimited included (PS4, Xbox One, Wii U, PC Digital)."
http://store.ubi.com/eu/just-dance--2017/5758093aef3aa5461e8b4567.html
People try to bring it up as an example that Rime is the only game doing this. So I bring it up as an example that it's not the only game. I recommend reading the context in which things are posted as then you don't need to spend time on such explanations. I am well aware of pricing being different in the US.
True, but why would I buy World of Goo on Switch now? It controls best with touch controls anyway. With Rime I at least have the portability factor adding additional value.
The good thing here is that Europe can stick it to the man by buying the U.S. version for cheaper.
Yep, getting the US version for sure... They release on the same day, right?
People should be more mad about this too. No one should get a free pass to gouge prices. I guess it being region free makes this one a bit easier to swallow though.
What were the other 2 examples for Europe?
I was curious about this, so I just loaded up the Wii U eShop and Just Dance 2017 is $59.99. Not sure where it's $49.99. Physical disc? If you have a Wii U, it's on the front page of the eShop. Can't miss it.
Apparition
Member
I can understand the more expensive manufacturing costs associated with the Switch's game cards. That said, if developers want to be taken seriously they should discount the digital version.
Question: does Nintendo charge more royalties and/or have a bigger cut on items sold on the eShop compared to the competition?
Question: does Nintendo charge more royalties and/or have a bigger cut on items sold on the eShop compared to the competition?
In Europe it launched at 49.99 EUR:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=221271489&postcount=173
And Just Dance Unlimited was and still is included too:
https://www.nintendo.co.uk/Games/Wii-U/Just-Dance-2017-1139443.html
Yes, I'm sure. I have it.
Here is Just dance 2017 Wii U (Retail 49.99)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01GWGXBV0/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Here is Just Dance Gold Wii U (which does include Just Dance Unlimited) (Retail 59.99)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01GWGXBMO/?tag=neogaf0e-20
$59.99 is the same price as the Switch version.
Europe might be different. I don't know. But in the US the price is parity.
Yup, check the post above yours (bad timing).
Interesting. In the U.S. it's the same price on all systems. Not sure what's going on with Europe. I think this sort of thing will be hitting you guys the hardest. In the States there's pretty much price parity unless there's a Wii version with missing features or something...or one of the versions is missing something important. This is the general perception of games releasing on all platforms at the same time. I think this is why Sega included the keychains with the NS version of Puyo Puyo Tetris. It provides at least a little value for paying a higher price. Honestly, I'm okay with that. Throw in some extras and I think it's fine.
Not fine for digital buyers though. Those knowing will go the us eshop route, but still not fine.
Definitely! Those in the know can get the game cheaper from the U.S. shop.