The IRS 'scandal' wasn't.
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Romney: "What we feared is happening...the administration has made things worse"
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The IRS 'scandal' wasn't.
Because that's what he campaigned on. Unfortunately he doesn't seem to have the competencey to lead either. Just go on tour and make speeches.
Except that turned out to be a whole lot of nothing.
BotoxAgent
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System is broken as long as corporate money continues to influence politics.
But thank fuckin god Romney isn't president, or any Republican for that matter.
But thank fuckin god Romney isn't president, or any Republican for that matter.
Fun fact: even if you don't vote, elections still happen anyway.
Devolution
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Federally you mean? Because there are plenty of things to vote for when it comes to state, county and municipal level.
Link
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If you don't vote, you don't get to complain.
I still feel the situation would have turned out the same with role reversal.
We are already dead.
The guy responsible for killing Osama Bin Laden? O, you mean the dude who made us have healthcare reform that was sorely needed for 40 years before him? O, did you mean the dude who has appointed some amazing Supreme Court Justices, including the first Hispanic? Or do you mean the guy who passed the recovery act to at the very least put some money back into our infrastructure?
ClassyPenguin
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That's just ignorant just like the majority of the posters in this thread. Get off the internet and enroll in like a community college poli-sci and American history classes.
I don't agree with many of the current administration positions, but all this hyperbolic and misdirected hate just shows how people are completely misinformed about the US political system.
That's what I mean, sorry.
Conservative groups targeted? OUTRAGE.
Progressive groups targeted? No one notices.
DryvBy
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Yeah, I get to complain to the people that voted for these people. Your vote for suit A or B makes me suffer too.
And I'm talking federal people since that's the topic. Federal. Unless we now vote state Prezzies now.
All of them? Oh no!
Oh you mean the PATRIOT Act guy. The same guy that didn't push gay marriage or removal of DADT. The guy that built Guantanamo and also had a little something to do with an unnecessary excursion to a country called "Iraq" I think it was.
The economy is improving. Not as fast as it should, but it's not getting worse. We would see marked improvement in the area if the country were a monarchy, but it's not so we have to suffer through morons in the Senate and the House.
No they aren't.
Getting better, not worse.
Don't forget Benghazi.
eBay Huckster
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Based on what, exactly? His statement that he would've been a "moderate Republican" in the 1980s and an overall record that supports this? Opposition leaders' statements that their number-one priority was to deny him a second term at any and all costs, as part of a do-nothing strategy that's only now beginning to fragment?
Quantify your goddamn drivebys.
BotoxAgent
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Actually you vote for Governors which is technically like a President, only for your state.
makingmusic476
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Obama is a terrible President for failing to run other countries in addition to his own!
I have a huge list of problems with the Obama administration, but c'mon. :lol
I have a huge list of problems with the Obama administration, but c'mon. :lol
Barack Lesnar
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Obama didn't start it but he expanded it greatly during his time in office.
Devolution
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Do you even know what a caucus is?
Fornaximus
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Would probably be exactly the same under Romney, if not worse. They're much closer than either of them would like you to believe. Obama has been a monumental disappointment, often appearing to be little more than Bush+.
eBay Huckster
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"The war on drugs", while particularly egregious, still isn't nearly at the level of the Austrian school in terms of utter, full-throated stupidity.
polyh3dron
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Really?
First of all, the house republicans have all but forced the Dems to prioritize deficit reduction above all else unfortunately (or face a government shutdown), and the deficit is dropping dramatically. The NSA bullshit was happening under Bush too, we just found out about it while under Obama. As for the IRS controversy, it turned out to be completely false, just like everything else that comes out of Darrell Issa's mouth. That's right, completely 100% debunked.
The IRS "scandal" was. not. a. scandal.
If you don't vote you don't have any right to complain. Every four years we get to make a choice, everyone who shows up has a right to complain. If you don't care enough to even bother voting third party then you need to go away. The guy who voted for the mole people has more of a right to complain than someone who couldn't even be bothered to show up.
BertramCooper
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A Romney win likely would have coincided with the GOP taking control of the Senate.
The idea of the batshit insane GOP controlling both chambers of Congress and the presidency - and thus given the ability to appoint new justices to an already conservative Supreme Court - is absolutely terrifying.
This statement defines the 2012 election.
DryvBy
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Oh yeah. I had no idea that this was what we were talking about. Local governments. That's exactly what we are talking about.
I'm sure glad I live in a world where you're allowed to vote. The people that really know what's going on!
Hellraizah
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Please, tell me what is so dumb about this duo?
Gay rights, him coming out in favor of Marriage Equality.
Him talking about heavily racial issues.
Yea, he's really nothing like Bush. Bush would probably be cooler to drink a miller light/bud light, but Obama would drink microbrewery-stuff and that makes him awesome.
BotoxAgent
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but...but....Benghazi!!
Devolution
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Especially if you're gay or a woman.
Giant Panda
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I'd take Obama over Romney any day, and anyone pretending there aren't any differences between them are kidding themselves. Additionally, I will vote 3rd party when there's actually a viable one that might win.
Jesus, seeing it as a bulk number like that is crazy
JesseEwiak
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Half the people who pop up on every civil liberties thread to act like the US is modern day East Germany don't know anything about politics further than whatever random thing they clicked on Reddit.
Yeah, Obama sucks on civil liberties. Every. Single. President. Has. There has never been a majority coalition for civil liberties in this countries history. The only reason we have most of the protections we do is because the Warren Court just didn't give a fuck about what local cops in Walla Walla wanted.
We're an empire. As I've said before, I'm voting for the best person to run it, not somebody who will try to destroy it and fail.
No he didn't. It's been doing what it has been doing before he got into office.
Oh yeah. I had no idea that this was what we were talking about. Local governments. That's exactly what we are talking about.
I'm sure glad I live in a world where you're allowed to vote. The people that really know what's going on!
Uh huh...I don't know what's going on...yea..no, I know more than probably most people. I definitely know more about you, regarding politics.
JesseEwiak
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Come on though, your right to reproductive freedom pales to their ability to not have their emails or phone calls possibly maybe, if they hit a few keywords, possibly stored in a database that likely nobody ever checks. Obviously.
BotoxAgent
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or poor, middle class, immigrant, college student...etc.
Tylahedras
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The only aspect of Romney I like is his business background. Everything other then that is quite literally terrible. Of course that hardly makes Obama's decisions good ones. And a background in an area doesn't mean you will make good decisions once you have power. Obama was a constitutional lawyer all he's done with the document is wipe his ass.
JesseEwiak
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The Constitution _died_ for the first time when the Alien and Sedition Acts were passed in....wait for it...wait for it...1798!
eBay Huckster
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Well, that poster and I could probably fill a page with the wide multitude of reasons why at least ol' Ron is dumb as hell, but you're going to post something about drugs and the Fed and handwave everything else anyway, so why bother?
Fornaximus
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How long did it take him to "evolve" on gay rights? Admittedly, he's obviously better than just about any Republican on gay rights, but that's an extremely low bar. Once the Democratic party put it in the platform, he had no choice but to "evolve".
or anything but Rich-White-Bussiness-Male
Obama got pushed by Joe Biden(amazing dude) to become pro-equal marriage. Obama then pushed the ENTIRE nation in favor for equal-marriage. The democratic party did not want to take it into their platform until Obama pushed it onto them.
CHEEZMO
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Austrian economics
"States rights" activism
Goldbuggin
Myriad ties to White supremacy groups
The internet cult of personallity they have that seems to consist entirely of autistic racist privileged middle class white people
The son's stupid fucking name
cartoon_soldier
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So nothing that is worse since the start of the 2nd term
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