PaulExcellent
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BBS is a really swell game.
I'm pumped up to play it again in HD.
I'm pumped up to play it again in HD.
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Rumor: Kingdom Hearts 2.5 to have II, Birth by Sleep, and Coded
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CambriaRising
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Would buy sight unseen.
It was alright in battles, but it completely ruined the level design. DDD's level design was fucking atrocious.
I loved the walljump
No other game lets you do shit like that (that I'm aware of). Even though you could do infinite walljump, it's not like there were secret areas or anything that the walljump made it too easy to get to when things should be much harder. The walljump lets you go on top of large buildings...but that's kind of it. Maybe there were some enemies or a chest but nothing special. So I didn't mind scaling huge buildings and jumping off and flying/walljumping all over the area.
bigDdestruction
Member
Just making sure, 358/2 days is just the cutscenes right? This HD collection only comes with 2 playable games? Not that i'm complaining, i'm excited to play KH1 FM, not so much COM, but meh i'll take it. And i despised 358/2 days. I always knew when the trio of handheld KH games were announced years ago that BBS was the only one that was gonna be worthwhile.
Winnie the Pimp
Member
Yea you're right but you get trophies for watching the cutscenes if you care about that kind of stuff.
Seven Force
Banned
- Truckload of extra bosses
- More sidequests
- Hell, just more extra content in general, especially in the postgame
- New attacks/abilities
- Extra difficulty that actually makes the game challenging
- Game balance is tweaked to be less of a cakewalk than the original version of KH2 was
Main thing is they added a new dungeon to explore in addition to adding...6/7 new bosses with an addition of a Organization XIII boss rush room where to can face each of the 13 Organization members as many times as you'd like. Had other things too like an additional Drive Form (Which allowed Sora to use some of his KH1 abilities like Ragnarok, Strike Raid, etc.), new cutscenes, higher difficulty mode, new abilities/weapons/heartless/, additional collection quest/minigame dealing with puzzle pieces, but of small little tweaks throughout the whole game, etc. Its an all around better game that goes beyond just adding a few extra like KHFM did.
Napalm_Frank
Member
To name a few changes.
Honestly if they don't announce 360 version for western release then KH3 could possibly be Playstation exclusive...
But then again in psblog they said something like having more info on why localization is taking so long or something so who knows, maybe we will get Xbox version.
BassForever
Member
Hopefully the BbS this game includes has the content from the Japanese final mix/international version
Winnie the Pimp
Member
Oh alright... i guess since i am mainly in it for the ride, meaning for the story, atmosphere and seeing the different worlds etc, this wouldn't do much for me then!
Would still buy for BBS HD though since i never played it on PSP.
Would still buy for BBS HD though since i never played it on PSP.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Quadraphonic
Member
You know it will.
Napalm_Frank
Member
jimmypython
Member
KH2FM and BbSFM????? too good to be true......
PS Blog says it's available exclusively for PS3.
The Remix isn't multiplat simply because...they like making KH games exclusive. That's really it. A lot of people are saying KH3 will be multiplat but it has a higher chance of it being exclusive.
Winnie the Pimp
Member
Oh ok, that MIGHT just be enough for me to replay it then
Is a Europe release in the cards as well or just a US one? If not, no biggie since PS3 is region free
I think KH3 being a PS3/PS4/WiiU game would make more sense.
But that's what I think.
Napalm_Frank
Member
Oh ok, that MIGHT just be enough for me to replay it then
Is a Europe release in the cards as well or just a US one? If not, no biggie since PS3 is region free
Well we know the first collection is coming over so naturally the next one will as well but who knows how long it will take. Probably close to 1,5 years ;-;
Then they made the most retarted decision ever not doing the collections for Wii U.
H_Prestige
Banned
Reasons I can think of for HD remix being exclusive:
1. Easier to port ps2/psp games to ps3 than to port to xbox/nintendo
2. Demographics; big overlap between KH and FF fans and FF fans are mostly on ps3 this gen
3. For whatever reason Nomura's games have all been on a single platform so far
I think KH3 will most likely be ps4 exclusive. I would have said ps3 but it's too late for that.
I doubt No. 1 is a factor - if anything, it is probably easier to port to Xbox/WiiU compared to the PS3 architecture.
It's more to do with the fact that PS3 is console king in Japan and that Kingdom Hearts games have traditionally been on Sony platforms.
It's a mix of 2 and 3. In terms of demographics there'll be more KH fans on Sony consoles than Nintendo and obviously Xbox which has had no KH game ever. I think this gap is smaller with handhelds, but with consoles, not so much.
Then Nomura likes making exclusive games, and if they're choosing one, the PS3 is the console that makes the most sense.
I wouldn't count out KH3 on PS3 yet. The window of opportunity is getting smaller though.
Napalm_Frank
Member
We can think of BBSFMHD as de facto KH3 till the real deal arrives
.i swear i remember nomura years ago implying that he would prefer to keep kh3 on playstation. it has been so many fucking years lol, so this is more me thinking than suggesting it is accurate. it could have honestly just been random internet people completely twisting his words though (or making it up).
i just feel like i remember that coming up when people were saying it would be wii and ps3 sales were shit.
the entire series being released on ps3 exclusively (aside from ddd) kind of points towards that as well.
i just feel like i remember that coming up when people were saying it would be wii and ps3 sales were shit.
the entire series being released on ps3 exclusively (aside from ddd) kind of points towards that as well.
Yo, this made me realize the KH series has skipped an entire home console generation... That's pretty crazy
badcrumble
Member
Nope, not easier. 360 is easier to build games for from the ground up, sure, but there are established toolkits and workflows for porting PS2 and PSP games to PS3 because Sony has made sure that this is the case.
That said, this is a particularly ambitious HD remake, so they're clearly not against effort.
H_Prestige
Banned
KH1 and 2 sold more outside of Japan.
But really, no other console makes sense. FFXIII didn't sell much on 360. A KH game would do even worse. And Wii U is just not a good environment to release anything on. Much like the Vita, I think SE has decided not to risk spending resources on that platform.
Napalm_Frank
Member
Yo, this made me realize the KH series has skipped an entire home console generation... That's pretty crazy
Blame Nar... I mean Noctis.
Nomura never said anything like that. The whole thing about "NOMURA IS A SONY FANBOY HE LOVES PLAYSTATION HE HATES XBOX HE WOULD QUIT THE COMPANY IF HE DIDNT MAKE SONY GAMES" is made up fanboy drivel.
But on consoles, right now, the KH fanbase is going to be most prevalent on PS3.
Even if it required more effort than 360/Wii U they'd still put it on PS3. It makes no sense not to. That's where the fanbase is.
Linkstrikesback
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1.5 Should really have been on everything, and I can't even begin to comprehend how the bigwigs in SE came to the decision to leave it single plat. I would have jumped all over a wii u or pc version of 1.5, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.
H_Prestige
Banned
Fact is you would be part of a very small group.
Linkstrikesback
Member
Well, no duh, if no games come out, of course no-one buys them. Square is seeing to it that the wii u is getting something announced at PAX (Fully aware it is probably Deus Ex), so saying they won't support the wii u is at best a silly notion. Clearly nintendo gamers are on board with kingdom hearts games, given they keep making kingdom hearts for nintendos handhelds. I'd say Kingdom hearts 1.5 could have easily broken 300k sales on Wii U, given the massive drought we're still in (for a few more weeks...) and that I could easily imagine KH being a game that appeals to nintendos core audience that have already bought a wii u.
Either way, it still doesn't excuse 360 or pc versions not existing in the west.
H_Prestige
Banned
If potential sales of 360 and pc versions don't make up for the cost of creating them, then yes it does excuse them not existing.
And believe it or not, there are SE published Vita games well, in addition to FFX coming. Doesn't mean SE is really supporting the platform. For third parties, Wii U is the home console version of the Vita.
I kind of think this group would be worthwhile, just to have the maximum number of people interested in KH3 when it's out (as long as costs for multiplat versions are low enough to make porting worthwhile). Especially if it's a next-gen game (PS4). Though it would be weird to have the Remixes come out on that many platforms and then make KH3 exclusive though. But if their plan was to just have a lot of people interested in it, even if it was exclusive, might not be so bad. I don't think they think like that though. If KH3 is a PS3 exclusive game though, keeping them exclusive makes sense.
Just choosing one console though, PS3 is the best choice.
Linkstrikesback
Member
I don't see why, as long as there is no obvious negative effects due to becoming multiplat (For example, delaying your game a good half a year 2 weeks before launch *coughraymancough*), it can only be a good thing.
Yep. Like Linkstrikesback said, KH 1.5 should of been for every platform.
Sqaure wants more people to play KH so making it exclusive to one system didn't make to much sense.
But than again it's Square and some of the things they do still shock me to this day lol.
Nose Master
Member
Uh, Coded? Isn't that just a shitty cell phone port of the original game?
If it were announced day-1 that it was multiplat then no. FF XIII was a surprise betrayalton, and people expect multiplats for most SE games nowadays.
Even if Versus went multiplat (doubt it) the meltdowns wouldn't be as big as FF XIII.
No? It takes place after KH2 (still mostly insignficant though)
AranhaHunter
Banned
DQX makes more sense to be on everything to be perfectly honest. The fact that an MMO is not on PC and/or on more capable and proven online consoles is a little baffling.
Linkstrikesback
Member
It's would probably be a remake of the DS version, but yes, the original was a cell phone game.
If only the PS4 played PS3 games, I'd be all over this and 1.5.
I don't think so. Kingdom Hearts isn't exactly a major PlayStation franchise, and if anything betrayaltons and the plethora of exclusives going multiplat this generation have sort of made me numb to these sort of things. Like everyone always says: why get upset at the idea of more people being able to play a game? Not to mention Kingdom Hearts has never been a series that really pushes the graphics envelope.
Sleeping Dogs, Assassins Creed, Battlefield, and Call of Duty are far from sports games or licensed crap.
Japan would be smart following suit.
I think its necessary that it be on PS3 because they target younger demographics, who might not be buying 400+ consoles, and by then the PS3 would definitely be in the 150-200 range. But if they want to invest in the future and their more dedicated consumers, cross gen would be nice.
You underestimate the fanboys. People freaked out about Bayonetta and it's not close to being as popular as KH...
FF XIII was also huge and it just went multiplat.
I think this is a good reason to keep KH3 on PS3 tbh.