The Invisible Man
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Rumor: Sony Announcing Cloud Gaming Deal (Gaikai or OnLive) at E3
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And I thought my internet was bad. I'm in Australia of all places.
michaelius
Banned
I was thinking what's the point:
and well i think it's either to:
1. Make sure PS3 stays relevant for years as cheap entertainment center for casuals and non dedicated gamers (Blu-ray, streaming from netflicks, streaming games to it) long past that 10 year plan they promised.
2. Streaming full console games to Vita - in this case wi-fi won't be limitation since they are smaller resolution.
and well i think it's either to:
1. Make sure PS3 stays relevant for years as cheap entertainment center for casuals and non dedicated gamers (Blu-ray, streaming from netflicks, streaming games to it) long past that 10 year plan they promised.
2. Streaming full console games to Vita - in this case wi-fi won't be limitation since they are smaller resolution.
Speedymanic
Banned
God, I hope SEN isn't the provider. SEN is open (one of its greatest strengths), so they need to allow onlive/gaikai to run their own service/servers, etc.
I think cloud BC is a pretty great idea so long as it includes bc for PS1 onwards. Being able to play a set fee per month to play any PS1, PS2 and PS3 games on PS4 via cloud would be game changing and instantly give Sony a massive selling point that neither Ninty or MS could ever hope to be able match.
Do it Sony and I'll be there day one for PS4, no matter the cost.
And I thought my internet was bad. I'm in Australia of all places.
You expect me to believe you thought 116 per sec. is slow? You talking about your upload speed? I agree there.
CountAntonius
Member
Why I don'y give a shit about streaming games.
Question though. With my 360 on it doubles in speed(to above picture) on my PC when my 360 is off is drops to about 5 mb/s I have my PC and 360 hooked up to a network switch. Why does this happen?
jono51
Banned
I don't think they'd allow that tbh, as games have to go through certification to get on the system.
I think what this is gonna be is a PSclassics streaming service, for ps1/2 stuff. If it is, I do wonder what the pricing will be. e.g. per game, per hrs streaming, $x/mo unlimited etc
Gemüsepizza
Member
I think Sony/MS would probably make some agreements with the ISPs to avoid such problems.
Bandwidth limits seem to be only a problem in the US/Canada, in Germany (where I live) there is no such thing. Internet is quite cheap here, I currently have a 32Mbit connection with unlimited traffic for $25 or 20. 100Mbit costs only $37 or 30 with unlimited traffic.
Bandwidth limits seem to be only a problem in the US/Canada, in Germany (where I live) there is no such thing. Internet is quite cheap here, I currently have a 32Mbit connection with unlimited traffic for $25 or 20. 100Mbit costs only $37 or 30 with unlimited traffic.
ajvizzgamer101
Member
You know I wonder if Trophies will be connected with this "cloud service" But if it does get OnLive (I have some games purchased on there) I will definitely consider Playstation Plus.
PistolGrip
sex vacation in Guam
Come borrow some of mine =D
FIOS 150/50 plan is so good.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
This was exciting and then I saw I get 1.92 MBps download speed and now I can't possibly care 
Also, if these things manage to be run off the PS3 servers, it's going to be a disaster. I don't think that's going to be the case, though.
Also, if these things manage to be run off the PS3 servers, it's going to be a disaster. I don't think that's going to be the case, though.
Good Job Bob
Member
We pay $60/month for this crap:
Oh, Canada!
But the real reason I don't give a shit about streaming games (or streaming anything, for that matter)? Bandwidth limits
http://teksavvy.com/en/res-internet.asp
I was finally able to escape the incumbants internet in Quebec with the new CRTC regulations but you have had cheap internet available to you forever in Ontario.
ProTip - Rogers does not have to tools to accurately monitor the usage, take the 28/1 plan for $46 and you can even bust the 300GB cap without worry , although I assume you are living with a 60GB limit right now.
What kind of speeds do you need for these services? Currently I get 16/1.5mbps
Metalmurphy
Member
Why does America seem to be going backwards as far as broadband goes?
So you guys didn't have bandwidth limits and ISPs are now starting to implement them?
In Europe it's exactly the other way around, we started with them, then each ISP would increase them one by one until they just started removing them completely. I don't think any ISP has bandwidth limits for broadband connections now.
Here's mine btw:
€49 a month, with TV (Fiber Optic) and Phone included
So you guys didn't have bandwidth limits and ISPs are now starting to implement them?
In Europe it's exactly the other way around, we started with them, then each ISP would increase them one by one until they just started removing them completely. I don't think any ISP has bandwidth limits for broadband connections now.
Here's mine btw:
€49 a month, with TV (Fiber Optic) and Phone included
Yeah, this is similar to mine.Since everyone started posting images of their connection speed, here's mine too.
Fu*k game streaming...
I'm all up for steaming shit, as soon as we get to the point where our internet connections are fast enough, reliable enough, and caps are gone.
Dorfdad
Gold Member
It's Gaikai not OnLive and yes these servers will be run on Sony Owned servers with licensed technology from Gaikai..
Gaikai stated earlier this year that they would enable full game streaming in 2012... Everyone believed ti would be a TV manufacturer doing this, but now it seems it's Sony.
Microsofot will have to follow suit and Steve Perlaman and Microsoft have a history so I can see Sony getting Gaikai and Microsoft making a push for OnLives patients..
Gaikai stated earlier this year that they would enable full game streaming in 2012... Everyone believed ti would be a TV manufacturer doing this, but now it seems it's Sony.
Microsofot will have to follow suit and Steve Perlaman and Microsoft have a history so I can see Sony getting Gaikai and Microsoft making a push for OnLives patients..
Dorfdad
Gold Member
Give me your tears.
Damn thats fast but your at college you don't own that
Funny since their fastest is 150/150 advertised you somehow got more!! I wish I could afford the 150/150 but it's 200.00 a month!!
Betta Lines
Member
DAT UPLOAD
Give me your tears.
Metalmurphy
Member
Give me your tears.
Can you actually play anything there or do they block you all the ports?
Wrestlemania
Banned
Could work the same as the deal Nintendo announced for Wii U/3DS - retailers are given physical cards to sell which can be redeemed for games to download/stream, the pricing is set by them.
Why I don'y give a shit about streaming games.
That's fast enough to play onlive at least, because that's pretty much exactly the same as mine and I was able to use it on PC on a wireless connection without much problem.
The issue is how awful the games look when you stream though. I would much rather have a download option.
Damn thats fast but your at college you don't own that
Funny since their fastest is 150/150 advertised you somehow got more!! I wish I could afford the 150/150 but it's 200.00 a month!!
They take my money for 5 years... so for the next 3 it is mine.
Can you actually play anything there or do they block you all the ports?
No port blocking... at least that I have encountered. Drexel is pretty good with their IT department. Torrenting, torrent sites, fileshare sites, etc are not blocked, only frowned upon (IOW if you do it a lot they will notice, but they are not going to bang on your door for using it legitimately (pCARS, etc).)
Exterminieren
Banned
All you bitches know nothing.
Yeah, this might not be for me.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
Nope. do not want.
For the record, I think onlive is fine on a 30mb connection, but if the ps4 is just a streaming box, they can forget it.
only bought 2 games on onlive when I had the pound deal and the free console. Would never pay full price for a game I don't even have a copy of, unless it was at a lower than app store price.
For the record, I think onlive is fine on a 30mb connection, but if the ps4 is just a streaming box, they can forget it.
only bought 2 games on onlive when I had the pound deal and the free console. Would never pay full price for a game I don't even have a copy of, unless it was at a lower than app store price.
radioheadrule83
Banned
Yeah
Speaking during CES, Nanea Reeves, chief product officer for Gaikai, predicted, "Not all of the current console makers will have one more generation. That will be the big news at E3." (CES / Consumer Electronics Show, Culture, Dev, Gaikai, Industry, Next-Gen)
http://n4g.com/news/919603/sony-or-microsoft-to-bow-out-of-next-gen-console-race-predicts-gaikai
If one of them announced heavy investment in cloud serving games, I wouldn't be that surprised actually. With the clout of a big company like Sony or MS, it could work, and the actual devices would be cheap. I can't imagine Sony doing that though...
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
With internet speeds/connection rates among owners across the nation, I can't imagine any company actually doing that.
Metalmurphy
Member
For less than 15$ for a month in Bulgaria.
That's... quite impressive.
A company banking on Internet connection speeds improving over the next 5 years would be no different than MS or Sony banking on HD adoption rates increasing as they did 6 years ago. It seems a fairly safe bet, I think.
radioheadrule83
Banned
Imagine if Sony used this to add FORWARDS compatability to the PS3. ie. it made it possible to play PS4 games on a £199 PS3 with PSN+.
Metalmurphy
Member
No. I don't think it's the same at all. PS3 and 360 still work on SD consoles. Infact many, many people use them on SD consoles.
In both Gaikai and Onlive you can't get the service to work at all if you have a weak connection.
Dorfdad
Gold Member
Unless something fantastic happens you wont be seeing PS3 or PS4 quality games on either service 720p is the max resolution as of today and their not clean 720p more compressed youtube like.
More than likely it's a service to allow both PS3 and Vita to play a huge PS1/PS2 games catalog for playstation plus members without additional costs to the yearly fee.
More than likely it's a service to allow both PS3 and Vita to play a huge PS1/PS2 games catalog for playstation plus members without additional costs to the yearly fee.
RPG_Fanatic
Member
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Have they really improved over the previous 5 years? How about broadband adoption?
I haven't really seen any numbers.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
OnLIve looked better than the 720p youtube when I played it. I think the service like this would be absolutely usable for people who don't demand the absolute best A/V quality but want to play PS4 games on PS3. Or PS3 and PS4 games on Vita (especially on vita compression wouldn't be as visible due to oled and higher PPI.
Ready Up Already
Neo Member
As someone who followed OnLive since its inception, and used to post rather frequently in its official thread on GAF, I have to say that for Sony's sake, I really hope that their cloud gaming partner is Gaikai.
I've been surprised and quite frankly appalled by how OnLive seems to be, at the end of the day, a pretty poorly-run company:
They promised game releases that never came; Witcher 2 for example, and their "flagship" game last E3 was the "exclusive tablet-compatible version" of From Dust, which never came out for the service in any form, tablet, desktop, or otherwise.
They hyped up the Android and iOS OnLive Player app releases, including an iPad giveaway, but forgot to do something arguably important beforehand - submit it to the iOS App Store. Apple apparently rejected it, and OnLive has since quietly pretended that it never existed. (It did come out this past December for Android, however.)
I was pleasantly surprised that they held off on hyping up the OnLive Desktop app until it got approved just a couple of months later. Really seemed like they learned from their mistakes with the iOS Player app. Turns out that the Desktop app was running unlicensed copies of Windows 7. Microsoft forced them to switch to licensed versions of Windows Server 2008, which doesn't have as much touch functionality as Win7. As an app supposedly intended for enterprise use, I don't see how they think any enterprise customer would take them seriously after a decidedly amateurish licensing debacle.
All of this is wrapped around in a PR and community approach that can be best described as near-complete stonewalling.
I'm not the biggest fan of Dave Perry, but I won't deny that it seems like at least they have their shit together at Gaikai.
I've been surprised and quite frankly appalled by how OnLive seems to be, at the end of the day, a pretty poorly-run company:
They promised game releases that never came; Witcher 2 for example, and their "flagship" game last E3 was the "exclusive tablet-compatible version" of From Dust, which never came out for the service in any form, tablet, desktop, or otherwise.
They hyped up the Android and iOS OnLive Player app releases, including an iPad giveaway, but forgot to do something arguably important beforehand - submit it to the iOS App Store. Apple apparently rejected it, and OnLive has since quietly pretended that it never existed. (It did come out this past December for Android, however.)
I was pleasantly surprised that they held off on hyping up the OnLive Desktop app until it got approved just a couple of months later. Really seemed like they learned from their mistakes with the iOS Player app. Turns out that the Desktop app was running unlicensed copies of Windows 7. Microsoft forced them to switch to licensed versions of Windows Server 2008, which doesn't have as much touch functionality as Win7. As an app supposedly intended for enterprise use, I don't see how they think any enterprise customer would take them seriously after a decidedly amateurish licensing debacle.
All of this is wrapped around in a PR and community approach that can be best described as near-complete stonewalling.
I'm not the biggest fan of Dave Perry, but I won't deny that it seems like at least they have their shit together at Gaikai.
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