Birgitte2004
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LOL at the people who think this is Microsoft France giving out numbers.
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[Rumour] MS France: 36.2 Millions of Xbox One sold worldwide
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LOL at the people who think this is Microsoft France giving out numbers.
Night Angel
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No one should scrutinize data when it pertains to my company of choice!
So about 10M shipped sitting on shelves. No way.
If this gen would last for 25 years, the Xbone still cannot catch up with the PS4.
And common sense brigade appeared.
Nightengale
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EA doesn't, but with Sony openly sharing out their sell-through data, we can extrapolate XB1's install base on calendar year level with good accuracy.
Majmun
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Sounds good enough to start a Superchartz site
panda-zebra
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Fuzzy math? When EA say 2016 ended at 79m total installed users, you can accept that figure as genuine, their estimates are for the year going forward, not previous. If subtracting Sony's sold figure of 53.4 offered on January 5th this year at CES is somehow fuzzy maths leaving a total of 25.6 then by all means, go with the 36.2m figure found via a fan website and believe they sold 10.6m WW H1 despite being down YOY in NA...
EDIT: lol it's chartz via wikipedia, bwahaha
There was legitimate concern regarding the accuracy of the figures to begin with. This makes what credibility was left go out the window.
Look guys -- if Xbox is around 30m, which is more reasonable, there's nothing wrong with that. There was no need to cling to 36m as if 30m is not respectable. If we all want to start believing any old numbers that are provided without any logic or proof to back it up just to make our console of choice look better to everyone else, all sales discussion on this forum is worse because of it. Let's not fall for this again.
Slow your roll, son. This isn't the hill you want to die on. it's not Microsoft France giving out numbers, they're most likely fake data.
Mass Effect
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Chartz strikes again!
except we now know the numbers came from VG Chartzzz...
but hey, persecution complex and all that
except we now know the numbers came from VG Chartzzz...
but hey, persecution complex and all that
Nightengale
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This.
Unless EA's report are completely fucking wrong, there is no way XB1 is selling 1.8 million consoles per month, when Sony is barely above 1mil per month in 1H.
darkinstinct
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Doesn't make sense, the data links to ******** but those have One at much lower numbers?
Just because VGC peddles bullshit doesn't mean you can't too. In fact you made a great go at it in here.
There are no current-as-of-now ratios, the last ratio you've got with a global figure is 3 years old and before the full global launch. That was the issue.
Nightengale
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chartz revised up/down its install base estimates everytime there are credible/official data that debunks their estimates.
Ash Sparrow
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My guess might be sold, manufactured and in channel. But I always thought the number bandied about was too low.
Mass Effect
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Chartzzz changes their numbers like the wind changes directions
Tyraniboah
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And it seems we're done here
It's my point,
WaterAstro
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Well they don't really change their numbers, they just have some automated ticker that adds sales to their total.
outlawauron
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But they never had 36m at any point. I'm not sure how they're sourced to this rumor at all.
Captain Pusheen
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How is this a rumor if Microsoft themselves published it?
Edit: Oh my god did they actually use Chartz?
Edit 2: Or not? But this source is shady as well? Nevermind. This is bullshit. That said, I wouldn't be surprised at that number. It would be keeping with the roughly 2:1 ratio that PS4 and Xbox One have continuously held.
Edit: Oh my god did they actually use Chartz?
Edit 2: Or not? But this source is shady as well? Nevermind. This is bullshit. That said, I wouldn't be surprised at that number. It would be keeping with the roughly 2:1 ratio that PS4 and Xbox One have continuously held.
Primethius
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Just because VGC peddles bullshit doesn't mean you can't too. In fact you made a great go at it in here.
There are no current-as-of-now ratios, the last ratio you've got with a global figure is 3 years old and before the full global launch. That was the issue.
Whatever you say pal. You gotta hold the L for defending VGC/Wiki numbers and ratios, while also assigning the wrong burden of proof. Have fun, I'm out!
hanspampel
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they're not
even tho they link to that site as source, the numbers are totally different
but if those numbers are from that France Wikipedia site, they're not official MS numbers
exactly
Katana_Strikes
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There's was no way that was true. MS would have been shouting from the rooftops if they were "only" that far behind lol.
Software doesn't match either? They have BLOPS3 at 7.3m while this leak states 11.39m.
Actually the historical Xbox and 360 hardware and software numbers (which are rarely updated) don't match exactly either except Halo 2. Looks like these might not be VCG?
Mass Effect
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oh, my bad.
lol what? that's even worse
well, this is what's on the wiki page:
It basically says "this data is approximate, they (numbers) were provided by Chartzzz"
But you're right, that number has never been provided by Chartz, so I guess someone on that wiki either a.) just edited the numbers as they saw this infographic or b.) someone made up the numbers out of their ass and then whoever made that infographic used them from the wiki.
And Wikipedia's numbers here are coming from...a famous banned sales website (hint : It starts with a V)...LOL indeed
wapplew
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You know, maybe this not fan of console war thing from Spencer finally apply to whole division.
hanspampel
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the wikipedia page or the numbers from microsoft france?
They are the same
Wikipedia
outlawauron
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Just because wikipedia says something doesn't make it true. I'm just saying they made it up and are saying vgc said it.
I'm discounting fuzzy math on both sides and asking you to actually give your methodology on your own absolutes as to why these figure are impossible, which you keep failing to deliver on. The truth is you've been out since we started.
The Wikipedia page. It has the ps4 is at 53M
hanspampel
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i still don't get how they come up whit those numbers, but yes they are wrong
they're even as of November 2016, lol
those numbers are official MS revenue numbers
Over a ~5m difference versus what GAF thought? lolno
And it has the PS4 at 53M
3rdamention
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Lol, so the actual source of the numbers, doesn't actually have the same numbers that were sourced...
Awesome
hanspampel
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ps4 at 53.4m million is correct
that's the official number from Sony for end of December 2016
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