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[TheGodfather07]

Hahaha, because new ips are performing so well for everyone else

Your absolutely right. Starfield was a flop.

 

[SEGAvangelist]

Hmm, so at least they didn't lose money with Sunset Overdrive.

Xbox really abandons things too quickly.

Weird to think that Sunset Overdrive was a bigger success than Rift Apart.

 

[TheGodfather07]

Weird to think that Sunset Overdrive was a bigger success than Rift Apart.

Why is it weird?

 

[StreetsofBeige]

The budgets skyroceted. i20 game (Spiderman 1) had about $90M of dev costs. That doesn't include marketing I'd assume, but compared to SM2 and SM3 their total costs are est. at over $300M. SM3 is $385M. If marketing is a key variable difference, there is no way marketing costs would be around $250-300M difference.

 

[Crayon]

This whole peek behind the curtain is making me think of their efforts to find and cozy up to Chinese studios. Cheaper, more malleable.

 

[DenchDeckard]

Your absolutely right. Starfield was a flop.

Cant have new ips if every game is a sequel...

 

[DarthPutin]

Stop making fun, focused games, and churn out Ubisoft derivative trash but with a superhero coating instead?

In real world, people love AssCreed games. The latest big one set records. New smaller one sold extremely well. It's other Ubi efforts that might struggle. Vox populi and all that.

Anyway, I don't see Insomniacs as some kind of auteurs forced to abandon high art. Even RC looks like something Disney could put their stamp on. It's all extremely well done, but rather pop!, a bit generic, Marvelesque. Sunset Overdrive looked like ugly kitsch. This isn't Kojima, let alone Team Ico. I think they are uniquely suited to producing well-done, professional, Hollywood blockbusters inspired by other's IPs.

 

[Mr Hyde]

Sunset Overdrive should've sold much more. Really fun shooter with awesome gameplay and traversal mechanics.

 

[Nydius]

[Moved to the dedicated Sunset Overdrive thread.]

 

[Hypereides]

I got a distaste for talking about sales, but man those Resistance sales are undeserved. R2 did a slump in consistency, but rebounded more or less in R3.

 

[TransTrender]

The Sunset Overdrive development costs are absolutely wild when compared to its contemporaries.

 

[thismeinteil]

Fuse almost bankrupted them. You can see why they sold to Sony. Smart move and a good deal for both parties.

It probably would have done better if they kept the original art style and tongue-in-check tone.

 

[yurinka]

Weird to think that Sunset Overdrive was a bigger success than Rift Apart.

Not the case.

As far as we know, Rift Apart sold 2.72M as of 2021-2022 in PS, plus whatever they sold until now both there and in PC.

Sunset Overdrive instead sold only 1.9M.

The budgets skyroceted. i20 game (Spiderman 1) had about $90M of dev costs. That doesn't include marketing I'd assume, but compared to SM2 and SM3 their total costs are est. at over $300M. SM3 is $385M. If marketing is a key variable difference, there is no way marketing costs would be around $250-300M difference.

In AAA games the marketing and development budgets are pretty similar. So Spider-Man 1 pretty likely had close to around $200M of total budget.

Each next gen means higher AAA budgets. So yes, to go $300-400M or more this gen fits.

 

[KungFucius]

Wasn't Elden Ring and Hogwarts Legacy two of the best selling games the last 2 years alone?

Did you really just call Hogwarts Legacy a new IP?

 

[LordCBH]

Fuse almost bankrupted them. You can see why they sold to Sony. Smart move and a good deal for both parties.

The only game of theirs I did not like. I hated Fuse so damn much

 

[rapid32.5]

lol, Sunset at 1.9M, no wonder why it never got a sequel, Xbox players loves new IPs.

Spoiler

If you compare it to established Ratchet franchise, it’s pretty impressive for a new IP.

 

[Gamer_By_Proxy]

Did you really just call Hogwarts Legacy a new IP?

In a way it is yes, there's no other Hogwart Legacy games. Maybe there should be another term for when old IP is used in a new way.