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Orpheus

Neo Member
I'm glad that there is a screenwriting thread here.

In the midst of writing my first full length screenplay, for my screenwriting class. So far it's gone fairly well. Having Syd Feild's Screenplay and Lew Hunter's Screenwriting 434 on hand has been invaluable. I just hit page 22 earlier today. Act 1 is nearly completed!

A question for screenplay GAF- I'm most comfortable writing with a keyboard, but I also love to write while away from power outlets- in parks, on beaches, etc. Can anyone recommend a portable device with good battery life to write on? Right now I'm using Celtx, so anything that runs that will work great.
 

CzarTim

Member
Anyone else doing scriptfrenzy this year? I've already begun outlining it so it'll be easier to write.

I've been working on getting my script from last year's Script Frenzy ready for entry in some contests (including the Nicholl Fellowships), so I won't be doing it this year. But I highly recommend it for anyone who hasn't done it. It's a great motivation.
 

vitaminwateryum

corporate swill
Just finished the first draft of my treatment! It ended up coming in at 43 pages. Going to start turning it into a script and start reworking and problems I find as soon as I get a chance. Now that I've finished the treatment, turning it into a script doesn't really seem too daunting at all.
 

VariantX04

Loser slave of the system :(
Didn't know where else to put this. So i've never looked up how to write a screenplay or anything but I got this surge of inspiration a while ago to write some sort of sitcom script about a bunch of out-of-work 20-somethings living in their friend's apartment (played out, I know). I only wrote about a page before I completely lost interest and reading it back now, it seems very cringe-worthy but looks to have some potential. The generic names are placeholder of course.

If anyone can read it and tell me if I should pursue this or just continue being a relatively unknown musician/producer rotting in Saudi Arabia, I would very much appreciate it. Thank you. <3

Scene opens in a room where 4 friends are watching TV. A cartoon about penguins starts playing.

Anthony: That is such a penguin thing to do.
Ryan: Hey, what if there was a civilization based solely on penguins?
Sam: Only Morgan Freeman knows.
Anthony: What would it be called?
Ryan: Penguinasia?
Anthony: Sounds like a drug.
Sam: Sounds like euthanasia but instead of killing people you’re killing penguins.
Anthony: How about Penguinopia?
Sam: Well, it depends. Is it a city or a utopia?
Ryan: … Both.
Anthony: A citopia!
Aziz (who the rest thought was asleep): I’d call it Penguinopolis.
Sam: Wow, even in his sleep he manages to create cities.
Anthony: Citopias!
Ryan: All in favor of Penguinopolis say ‘aye’.

Everyone says ‘aye’ except for Aziz who begins to snore

Anthony punches Aziz in the arm


Aziz: ayyye.
Sam: Hey, let’s make it a socialist society just to piss Mary off.
Anthony: The socialist citopia of Penguinopolis. Kinda has a ring to it.
Aziz: My fucking arm you asshole.

Aziz attacks Sam, the wrong guy. *cue opening theme*





Sam and Ryan are sitting on the couch playing video games while Anthony is on his laptop.

Ryan: Taste my thunder bitch. TASTE MY THUNDER!
Sam: Why do you insist that I taste your thunder?
Anthony: Are you guys staying here for long? I need to go run some errands for-

Game stops and Sam and Ryan stare at Anthony and continue his sentence: Your mom.

Anthony: Pff what? No… I just have… things to d… Fuck you guys.
Ryan: Will you stay if I let you taste my thunder?

Mary walks in the room as Anthony storms out the door.

Mary: Mom called, eh?
Sam: Oh that’s real mature Mary. Why don’t you get off Anthony’s back for once?
Ryan: Yeah, what did he ever do to you?
Mary: Wait no… I just… meant that… he… Fuck you guys.

Mary sits on couch as Sam beats Ryan at the game and stands up shouting.

Sam: WHO’S TASTING WHOSE THUNDER NOW FUCKMOUTH?
Ryan: Damn you and your distracting negative vibes, Mary. And seriously? Fuckmouth?
Mary: So since you guys pretty much stay here all day every day, have you considered cleaning up a little bit?
Sam: Why?
Ryan: It’s not our apartment.
Mary: And when are you guys gonna start helping me with the rent? Seriously, I’m always broke by the beginning of the month because of you guys. I buy food, you eat it, I buy toilet paper, you use it cover Aziz while he’s sleeping.
Ryan: Well he thought he was a mummy when he woke up.
Sam: So worth it. *fist bump*
Mary: Seriously, give me a fucking break, my dad’s on my back every month about this.
Sam: Geez, someone needs a nap.
Ryan: Or a hug.
Sam: Go take a nap and we’ll hug you when you wake up.
Mary: Whatever. So is it my turn yet?
 

Andiie

Unconfirmed Member
@AgentWhiskers.
I gave it a quick read. I'm no expert on the subject but for what it's worth I actually didn't mind it. While reading, I had the image of a British comedy in my mind something like The Inbetweeners, maybe because I watched it recently and British Comedies are all I enjoy. I don't know' it seems to have that quick flow of dialogue, a rhythm between the characters that you see a lot of in those types of comedies. I'm not saying what you wrote was brilliant just that's the image I had.

Just something small I thought about was the first line from Aziz maybe he could go into his vision of this penguin city a bit more, everyone stops to listen and when he's done they all sort of think about it and then nod in approval and then that'd be the reason for everyone to be in a such favor of his proposal as opposed to the other suggestions.

I think if you do continue with it your challenge would be to make each character unique in a way, make it so they don't all sound the same and give each a place in the show, there's a reason they're all there. Also to give the show it's own vibe/flavor, something that sets it apart from other similar shows because like you said it's fairly worn territory.
I think for a comedy like this to stand out you should be able to sell it in a line or two. How can you go from "a bunch of out-of-work 20-somethings living in their friend's apartment" to something that really catches someone's interest? That's the challenge.

Personally I'd try and think who my audience is and write and write until I knew exactly what type of show it was and until I was confident in the characters I had created.

If it's something you want to do just keep writing.

Someone with some actual knowledge of this stuff would be better equipped to give you some critique. Just wanted to put down my thoughts.
 

AlteredBeast

Fork 'em, Sparky!
Since I have pimped myself out to most other creative outlets of GAF, I should do it here, too. :)


I have a Kickstarter ongoing that I need donations/funding for. I have a screenplay that I have written over the past 4 years. I am looking to get it professionally edited, formatted and sold. To do that, I need some funds!

Al and Bart Are Friends
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aka: Al and Bart Have a Good Time
aka: Al and Bart's Wild Ride
aka: Dreams From My Falafel: Road Trips and Middle Eastern Food Do Not Mix

and so on...

Follow Alistair Roberts and his reluctant best friend Bart Blevins on their trip from Nebraska to the West Coast, where they hope to drive the Pacific Coast Highway, feel the breeze in their hair, and get some much-needed sun.

Along the way, they run into quite a few sticky situations. I don't want to ruin any of the best comedic moments from the script, but let's just say that there are many.

Any dollar amount will help, especially if I get enough backers and notice to get chosen as a Staff Pick. The gaming side has been able to rally around quite a few Gaming Kickstarters and it would be nice to see Writing-GAF get behind one of our own. :)

If I get 25 donations from GAF, even of the $1 variety, I will write GAF into a scene that would honestly be perfect for it. As a special reward for any GAFFERS, donate $50 and above and I will include your name (real or fake) as a side character in the movie somewhere.

Come on and get GAF its first shot at some silver screen love!
 

AlteredBeast

Fork 'em, Sparky!
For those published few here, what's the best way to copyright your work? I know the old-fashioned "mail yourself a sealed copy" thing doesn't really hold water in court. Is there a better way?
 

oatmeal

Banned
How long is it?

Also just an update - I've been pulled into other things the past couple weeks that have slowed my writing. About 80 pages in now and expecting the finished product to hover around 150 pages.

Sorry, I never came back into this thread...

Script is 85 pages.

I find out about funding today hopefully. Hoping to shoot in November.

For those published few here, what's the best way to copyright your work? I know the old-fashioned "mail yourself a sealed copy" thing doesn't really hold water in court. Is there a better way?

Register at the WGA.

It's like 20 bucks or something, you get a WGA number.

http://www.wgawregistry.org/webrss/
 
I have a quick screenplay question. Does a scene count as a scene if it has basically nothing in it? I want a two-second long shot of a sign outside a building just so it can be referred to later, but I don't know whether to write it in the screenplay as its own specific scene, whether to write it some other way or just leave that stuff up to a director.
 

bernardobri

Steve, the dog with no powers that we let hang out with us all for some reason
I have a quick screenplay question. Does a scene count as a scene if it has basically nothing in it? I want a two-second long shot of a sign outside a building just so it can be referred to later, but I don't know whether to write it in the screenplay as its own specific scene, whether to write it some other way or just leave that stuff up to a director.

This. If it's important to the story, you can point it to the director in a revision and he should point it out to the editor in a note.
 

Senoculum

Member
Oh, I love screenwriting! I'm currently working on a full body of work before I seek out agents. I've written plenty, but I'm only knee deep in my first -- completely original -- feature length.

I love there's an outlet here on Neogaf on the process. My story is a horror that plays against conventions and tropes. Quite untimely that The Cabin in the Woods was released and it seemed to have spoiled the genre for many people. I'm confident in my story though, and it'll be something Cabin was not: absolutely terrifying!

Cabin also poked fun at the expected; and one thing I'm doing to leviate that is, when brown things hit the fan, killing my protagonist early and then focus on the ensemble (approx. 20 characters; it's a bloodbath). I'll post my intro sometime when I reach my home computer!

Also, I have a confession...

Remember 2 years ago, that fake 160 page Dark Knight Rises screenplay with Black Mask, Riddler, and Deadshot?

Yeah... sorry for the trolling.
 
Sculli, that's great you completed a screenplay and registered it through the WGA, but in the future I'd suggest you copyright your work instead. While the WGA registration is nice to have, and might stand up in court if necessary, you'll need an actual copyright should you get a company to option your work. Just a suggestion. Again, congrats!
 

strafer

member
I've got a question regarding screenplays.

You know when a screenplay is up for a nomination of sorts, what exactly are they looking at when choosing said screenplay?
 
I've got a question regarding screenplays.

You know when a screenplay is up for a nomination of sorts, what exactly are they looking at when choosing said screenplay?

I don't think the academy sends out scripts to the voters... just screeners. Ideally they would be looking for plot structure, dialogue, sub plots; character arcs, goals, and advancements, consistency in the story, the story itself, and possibly uniqueness of the story.

A tip to screenwriters out there... make sure to have an ending when you start writing your script because it all has to lead somewhere and having the ending in your mind before hand will help you accomplish the story you want to tell.

Also my screenwriting teacher in school gave me some pretty good advice about scripts... Good scripts aren't written, they are rewritten. The best thing to do is just write no matter how god awful it is (and it most likely will be, because my scripts have sucked.) Just so you have something to tweak and work and send out for criticism to rework and tweak again until it's good enough.
 
Well, I just finished writing my second feature film. This was the first feature I was commissioned to write however (I'm officially a writer, hurrah!). I don't know if they'll want another polish, but I was asked if I'd be interested in writing this film roughly eight weeks ago to the day and just typed those lovely, fantastic words 'FADE TO BLACK.'

It looks like I might be getting quite a bit more writing work as well based on the pages I had already submitted during the course of this project. :)

I now also finally have time to finish up the second draft of my spec script - which was what my last posting was about.

EXCITE.
 
Well, I just finished writing my second feature film. This was the first feature I was commissioned to write however (I'm officially a writer, hurrah!). I don't know if they'll want another polish, but I was asked if I'd be interested in writing this film roughly eight weeks ago to the day and just typed those lovely, fantastic words 'FADE TO BLACK.'

It looks like I might be getting quite a bit more writing work as well based on the pages I had already submitted during the course of this project. :)

I now also finally have time to finish up the second draft of my spec script - which was what my last posting was about.

EXCITE.
Congratulations! Nothing better than the feeling of turning a "hobby" into a "profession". More actual film fans writing the better!

I'll be sending off two features to WGA and Copyright office next year, let the karma floooow! Haha.

Also my screenwriting teacher in school gave me some pretty good advice about scripts... Good scripts aren't written, they are rewritten. The best thing to do is just write no matter how god awful it is (and it most likely will be, because my scripts have sucked.) Just so you have something to tweak and work and send out for criticism to rework and tweak again until it's good enough.
Rewrites are essential. Expect 90% of your planning to change by the time you finish.
 

Orpheus

Neo Member
Well, I just finished writing my second feature film. This was the first feature I was commissioned to write however (I'm officially a writer, hurrah!). I don't know if they'll want another polish, but I was asked if I'd be interested in writing this film roughly eight weeks ago to the day and just typed those lovely, fantastic words 'FADE TO BLACK.'

It looks like I might be getting quite a bit more writing work as well based on the pages I had already submitted during the course of this project. :)

I now also finally have time to finish up the second draft of my spec script - which was what my last posting was about.

EXCITE.

It's amazing to me that you sold your second feature script. Congratulations!

As for me, this semester has been insane, so I haven't had time to get started on my next project. I'm gonna try to write a couple shorts during the break. Can't wait!
 

jtb

Banned
Well, I just finished writing my second feature film. This was the first feature I was commissioned to write however (I'm officially a writer, hurrah!). I don't know if they'll want another polish, but I was asked if I'd be interested in writing this film roughly eight weeks ago to the day and just typed those lovely, fantastic words 'FADE TO BLACK.'

It looks like I might be getting quite a bit more writing work as well based on the pages I had already submitted during the course of this project. :)

I now also finally have time to finish up the second draft of my spec script - which was what my last posting was about.

EXCITE.

Congrats!
 
Thanks guys.

What's funny is that the film I was asked to write is probably the polar opposite of anything I would ever want to write. Just completely different to the type of film or story I've ever been interested in.
 
What's funny is that the film I was asked to write is probably the polar opposite of anything I would ever want to write. Just completely different to the type of film or story I've ever been interested in.
So it's a sci-fi blockbuster that's more than just a flimsy re-imagining of Pocahontas?

Kidding, congrats!
 
What's funny is that the film I was asked to write is probably the polar opposite of anything I would ever want to write. Just completely different to the type of film or story I've ever been interested in.
Empirical fact: every genre can be done well. Just make it something you'd watch!
 
Okay, quick question that seems a little like the mobius strip experiment to me-

Would a metro rail tunnel be classified as EXT or INT? And would it's station be labeled INT? Technically it is inside an enclosed area- but they're large environments and settings. I'm probably thinking a little too hard about it, but I found it funny.
 

Wilbur

Banned
Thanks guys.

What's funny is that the film I was asked to write is probably the polar opposite of anything I would ever want to write. Just completely different to the type of film or story I've ever been interested in.

Congrats, Sculli/Whitta! Let us know when this shit's being made.
 
Okay, quick question that seems a little like the mobius strip experiment to me-

Would a metro rail tunnel be classified as EXT or INT? And would it's station be labeled INT? Technically it is inside an enclosed area- but they're large environments and settings. I'm probably thinking a little too hard about it, but I found it funny.

Metro tunnel would be INT.

Station would be INT. and would be elaborated upon in the description regarding the design.

What becomes fun is when you start writing space-faring sci-fi and there is no delineation between DAY or NIGHT.
 

Wilbur

Banned
Okay, quick question that seems a little like the mobius strip experiment to me-

Would a metro rail tunnel be classified as EXT or INT? And would it's station be labeled INT? Technically it is inside an enclosed area- but they're large environments and settings. I'm probably thinking a little too hard about it, but I found it funny.

INT. to both I assume, unless it's like an outside platform. Maybe just INT. RAIL STATION. Bob sat in the waiting room on the platform etc. etc. would paint a better picture.

edit: fuck the actual screenwriter says exactly what I say without the rambling shit way to go wilbury way to go
 
What becomes fun is when you start writing space-faring sci-fi and there is no delineation between DAY or NIGHT.
- TIMELESS has been friendly to me in times of need. But yeah. Space stuff is fun when it comes to constraints like those, I love displaying the time visually by forcing it into the story instead of a computer or vocal clock, etc.
 
So within two months of finishing my first commissioned feature, I've now got another commissioned feature project that I've been hired to do a heavy polish on. :)

It's not something I can talk about beyond that, but writing work is writing work!
 

shira

Member
So within two months of finishing my first commissioned feature, I've now got another commissioned feature project that I've been hired to do a heavy polish on. :)

It's not something I can talk about beyond that, but writing work is writing work!

Breaking: Sculli doing Star Wars 7 re-write.
 
Breaking: Sculli doing Star Wars 7 re-write.

It's about an illegal alien I call Vasquez. She's stuck at the bottom of the ocean which can only be reached by going through the planet core again. Also the band from Titanic is there and Bill Paxton.
 

beat

Member
Hey, can anyone in LA recommend any television sitcom writing courses? I'm particularly interested to hear if anyone has anything good or bad to say about the IO or Second City classes.
 

JCX

Member
Hey, can anyone in LA recommend any television sitcom writing courses? I'm particularly interested to hear if anyone has anything good or bad to say about the IO or Second City classes.

I'm not in LA, but I did take some TV writing courses at iO Chicago, and i loved them. Definitely would recommend them.
 

AlteredBeast

Fork 'em, Sparky!
I'm glad that there is a screenwriting thread here.

In the midst of writing my first full length screenplay, for my screenwriting class. So far it's gone fairly well. Having Syd Feild's Screenplay and Lew Hunter's Screenwriting 434 on hand has been invaluable. I just hit page 22 earlier today. Act 1 is nearly completed!

A question for screenplay GAF- I'm most comfortable writing with a keyboard, but I also love to write while away from power outlets- in parks, on beaches, etc. Can anyone recommend a portable device with good battery life to write on? Right now I'm using Celtx, so anything that runs that will work great.

I read Lew Hunter's book. Really enjoy his relaxing tone and step by step process.

Re: that Academy entry, is there any reason why I shouldn't submit my screenplay?
 
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