Naked Snake
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No. But turning off or reducing 3D makes less a little less curvy.
I was surprised how much I enjoyed playing the game with that mode, I wish it was included for other Mega Drive ports. But yeah the distortion is a excessive.
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No. But turning off or reducing 3D makes less a little less curvy.
I was surprised how much I enjoyed playing the game with that mode, I wish it was included for other Mega Drive ports. But yeah the distortion is a excessive.
Bill Rizer
Member
I'm getting Altered Beast for nostalgia, that was my Mega Drive launch game
Pack-in PAL launch bundle MD + Altered Beast? Yeah, bro.
Naked Snake
Member
My pack-in was Sonic, you guys got conned.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
LOL.
The Sonic cart was not even packed in with Genesis until the second half of 1991, maybe not until late Q3 or Q4.
Mega Drive launched in Japan October 1988, Genesis launched in the United States, nationwide, September 1989.
Mega Drive in Japan was just over 2 and 1/2 years old by the time Sonic The Hedgehog first got released in the middle of '91, in June.
Altered Beast pack-in was for us early-adopters.
Sonic pack-in was for when Genesis went mainstream.
Oh you mainstream gamers you.
Ya just don't know what it was like around the time of Sega's New Beginning
It was the pack in for the Genesis as well. Reliving Christmas 1989 is the main reason I kind of want it, honestly.
But more super scaler please.
And Bonanza Bros 3D.
Naked Snake
Member
LOL.
The Sonic cart was not even packed in with Genesis until the second half of 1991, maybe not until late Q3 or Q4.
Mega Drive launched in Japan October 1988, Genesis launched in the United States, nationwide, September 1989.
Mega Drive in Japan was just over 2 and 1/2 years old by the time Sonic The Hedgehog first got released in the middle of '91, in June.
Altered Beast pack-in was for us early-adopters.
Sonic pack-in was for when Genesis went mainstream.
Oh you mainstream gamers you.
Ya just don't know what it was like around the time of Sega's New Beginning
Alright, you guys win... but in my defense, I live in a small poor country in the Middle East, not the First World
RobbieNick
Junior Member
Galaxy Force 2 in 3-D is fucking insane! I can't wait for more of these Sega ports from M2.
My pack was Sonic 1 and a cart with Streets of Rage+Golden Axe+Revenge of Shinobi
Alright, you guys win... but in my defense, I live in the Middle East, not the First World
Well, even though I was born in, militarily, the most powerful nation on earth and when I was growin' up during the Reagan era near the end of the Cold War with the Soviet Union, my family would've been considered lower-middle class.
By late '89 my parents were living paycheck to paycheck after my dad had been out of work for like two years. I did not actually have Genesis until sometime in 1990, after launch, tho still before Genesis truly hit paydirt and 'primetime'.
Arghh sorry, I know that almost sounds like I'm rubbing it in since we would've been considered wealthy compared to people living in the 2nd and 3rd worlds, but I'm not trying to...
The Lamonster
Member
Yep, I just got this based on the GAF hype and played it for about 30 minutes.
Awesome game.
The Genesis had only five FM audio channels (six if the game didn't use samples which all Sonic games did) and they could only play one sound at a time. I think looking at this version of Spring Yard Zone that the third channel was probably used a lot for audio effects, but I haven't studied a lot of Sonic 1 music. They probably emulated the sound chip instead of recreating everything.
Green channels are from the Master System sound chip. Usually two square wave (NES-like leads) and a noise channel (used to aid percussion).
Zen_Arcade
Banned
Bought Sonic and Galaxy Force II. Sonic looks great, I haven't played Galaxy Force yet.
I have a hard time wrapping my mind around how Galaxy Force II can be as good as you guys are saying! So far, I've only played Sonic of the 3D collection... and I absolutely adored it. I completely understand how the 3D and tech for GF II might be amazing, but is the gameplay really that solid? I hate shmups, but LOVE Star Fox. From the very few brief video clips I've seen of this, I can't tell which category it falls more into. Space Harrier and Super Hang On (and hell, even Altered Beast on a conceptual level) all interest me more than GF II, but some of these comments are swinging me towards the "I should download it right freaking now" camp
You shoul download it right freaking now. If you love Star Fox, you'll love this.
stuminus3
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Hey! My love for Sega started with Turbo (a defining childhood moment for me) so I know exactly what it was like!
Looking at the NPD software top 10 after playing so much Space Harrier and GFII this month makes me feel kinda sad and old. Sad for other people, that is. Not for me. I'm playing Space Harrier and GFII.
I want this super-scalar to be the next SEGA 3D Classic M2 makes
Oh hell yes! I totally forgot about the arcade version of SMGP. The Genesis version was the first racer I ever bought, actually!
Lumpy Onion
Member
Picked up Super Hang On, Space Harrier, Sonic, and Galaxy Force 2. Almost got Altered Beast but realized Warioland 3 would probably be a better value so I got that. Never did like Ecco much so I didn't even think about it.
Never played GF 2 or Super Hang On before this release and am loving the hell out of them. The 3D effect in GF 2 is truly awe-inspiring. Everything about these feels like a labor of love. Can't wait to buy more. Even Altered Beast.
Never played GF 2 or Super Hang On before this release and am loving the hell out of them. The 3D effect in GF 2 is truly awe-inspiring. Everything about these feels like a labor of love. Can't wait to buy more. Even Altered Beast.
Minister of the Dog
Member
That game on the eShop would be fantastic. It was bundled with my MegaDrive II, in a 6-in-1 cartridge. I think it had a football game, Columns, Alien Storm, Super Hang-on, SMGP and Thunder-something, with helicopters.
SMGP was kind of frustrating for me, because I didn't understand English and everytime I was prompted to upgrade or switch teams, there was the chance that I was choosing to retire instead. So many confusing "Game over" screens...
Well I never forgot.
Played it at Six Flags Great America near the end of Aug. 1990 right before school started up again. Already had Genesis by that point, and actually, it was around the time Genesis SMGP reached U.S. stores along with ABII.
Found some real footage that's not Mame/Emu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnaPL48ADak
The sit-down, sit-inside cab I played had this magnifying lens window-thing that made the small CRT' monitor appear larger than it was.
Sega did all kinds of little cool shit like that with their various arcade cabs.
The Genesis had only five FM audio channels (six if the game didn't use samples which all Sonic games did) and they could only play one sound at a time. I think looking at this version of Spring Yard Zone that the third channel was probably used a lot for audio effects, but I haven't studied a lot of Sonic 1 music. They probably emulated the sound chip instead of recreating everything.
Green channels are from the Master System sound chip. Usually two square wave (NES-like leads) and a noise channel (used to aid percussion).
Where is this GIF From?
sixteen-bit
Member
Knuckles' Chaotix
Damn it, I was hoping it was some sort of sweet Genesis soundtracking program.
That looks very different from the sound test in my copy of Chaotix. Mine looks like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPwC-6CFcLo
Naked Snake
Member
Yeah I'm curious how it compares to the 3D in Sonic (they said they got more out of the "GigaDrive" with each consecutive port).
I have enough eShop balance to buy them all now, but I want to go through them one by one, so that I'm not tempted to abandon playing ones in favor of others, and also to witness the technical progression gradually between the arcade games.
So I started with Super Hang-On, when I'm done with it I'll download Super Harrier, then GFII. I'll probably pick up Ecco and Shinobi in between those.
Mr. Pointy
Member
It's nice. It has this fishtank feel to it.
PixyJunket
Member
The only thing missing from these (at least the arcade games) is a StreetPass feature to share your high score.
My Space Harrier review is up. The Super Hang-On review hasn't been proofread yet, so I guess I'll be behind for a while longer.
That's not the order they were released in.
That's not the order they were released in.
Know what, I recall back in those days reading EGM's all-Sega magazine, Mega Play.
Galaxy Force was coming to Mega Drive with, get this, 3-D effects the Master System could not handle. Galaxy Force would be ready for the U.S. market in time to help Sega take on SUPER NINTENDO.
.........However the tiny little disclaimer text at the bottom said 'Arcade version shown for illustration purposes'
Managed to find it
Well Ha!
That dream has finally fuckin' become reality--Only took like a quarter fucking century, 'lil something called parallax barrier technology, and Nintendo's platform to do it all on.
fuck yeah.
But...
.....Ohhh man, the irony ya know?
Galaxy Force was coming to Mega Drive with, get this, 3-D effects the Master System could not handle. Galaxy Force would be ready for the U.S. market in time to help Sega take on SUPER NINTENDO.
.........However the tiny little disclaimer text at the bottom said 'Arcade version shown for illustration purposes'
Managed to find it
Well Ha!
That dream has finally fuckin' become reality--Only took like a quarter fucking century, 'lil something called parallax barrier technology, and Nintendo's platform to do it all on.
fuck yeah.
But...
.....Ohhh man, the irony ya know?
Bought Galaxy Force II last night. Played a level until I get a GameOver, lol! Never played this before until the other night. Looks really cool, amazing 3D and all that jazz.
CANNOT WAIT for Shinobi III to drop. Fav Shinobi game and one of my favorite Genesis games of all time. Going to replay that SO HARD.
CANNOT WAIT for Shinobi III to drop. Fav Shinobi game and one of my favorite Genesis games of all time. Going to replay that SO HARD.
Naked Snake
Member
That's not the order they were released in.
I was merely talking about Super Hang-On, Space Harrier, and Galaxy Force II, and I wasn't referring to their chronological order of release (what's the order anyway? I'm curious), but rather the visual complexity/"wow factor" of their graphics, which I think is in that order.
That said, I'm loving Super Hang-On... Yes the game is kicking my ass, but I absolutely love how it looks, handles, and sounds. I love the bike and bikers designs and the solid vivid and pastel colors used. I find this more beautiful than say the launch title Ridge Racer 3D, or even Mario Kart 7.
Now onto another topic:
I'd like to chime in here and disagree that "holding right, and pressing A when you see an obstacle" is the correct or only way to play Sonic, especially the first Sonic.
Here's an excerpt from Nintendo Life's review of 3D Sonic:
Nintendo Life said:
I've always looked at clearing the stages in Sonic (much as I do in Mario) as a balance between Time Bonus and Ring Bonus (or Time Vs Coins in classic Mario). If you clear the level as fast as you can, then you'll get a lot of points for time, but you'll miss out on a ton of rings and power ups. While if you go through the levels slowly trying to collect everything, you'll score massive on the rings but lose out on time. I guess ideally you'd want to strike an optimal balance between the two.
Also, you always want to have at least 50 rings before you clear an act in order to access the bonus stage, which won't always be feasible if you blast through levels in the shortest possible path.
Best title of the bunch!
And if you have the honor to play this one on a 2DS it is all the better. Mapping the turbo to that big-fat trigger is bliss. BLISS!
Closest racer I've ever felt got near to the SNES F-Zero. Sublime.
(That Genesis version is junk. The XBLA/PSN is a close second to 3DS version, though)
Naked Snake
Member
I was very surprised to learn the PS3 and 360 ports of Super Hang-On supported stereoscopic 3D... I'd like to try it on the PS3.
It also has a very great port on Wii VC...if one prefers those controllers.
GBA version wasn't bad.
Either was the X68000 rendition
3DS is easily the best and still my favorite of the 3D Classics so far, with Galaxy Force II very close behind.
My forever favorite video game of all times though, is coming to Japanese eShop in 3D very soon: After Burner II.
Naked Snake
Member
For me 3D trumps all. It makes a game SO MUCH better looking and feeling that the thought of playing a game in 2D when I can play it in 3D is blasphemous. I frequently turn off the 3D on any game just momentarily to remind myself of how inferior it looks before I crack it back up into blissfully crisp 3D.
I know that many people don't hold that opinion and find 3D anywhere from gimicky, trivial, or "just nice I guess", and apparently you're one of those people since you're playing these 3D Classics on the 2DS
I know that many people don't hold that opinion and find 3D anywhere from gimicky, trivial, or "just nice I guess", and apparently you're one of those people since you're playing these 3D Classics on the 2DS
Oh no!
I'm a 3DS freak and play all my games in 3D. All the time.
But I did that with these titles on my japanese 3DS earlier in the year. Just now enjoying them on the 2DS for a different spin. And, they were never 3D to begin with, so there is that.
But, yeah, way more impressive in 3D. Now, about wearing glasses to view them on an HDTV. No, I'll have none of that. None of that, at all.
Naked Snake
Member
Good to know!
Well yeah, but they are 3D remakes. That's one of the biggest draws for playing them again for those who played them previously... but since you've already done that, and you have a bunch of 2DS's laying around, then sure suit yourself
I have the Sony HMZ-T1, that's where I'd play PS3 Super Hang-On in 3D if I get it. Cross-talk free, OLED in-your-face 3D. I wonder if it runs in 60fps in 3D on PS3.
Naked Snake
Member
I still prefer the auto-stereoscopic 3D on 3DS over the HMZ... it's less immersive and much smaller in size, but I find it much easier on my eyes.
Also taking a bathroom break while playing on the HMZ means putting the game on hold, and probably turning off the system since I'd want to take a break from the face-hugger before bracing myself into it again. While with the 3DS I'd just carry it around with me and continue playing while I do my business on the throne. I never want Nintendo to stop making auto-stereoscopic 3D handhelds going forward, and I hope Sony follows suit. No 3D in Vita was a deal breaker for me.
Also taking a bathroom break while playing on the HMZ means putting the game on hold, and probably turning off the system since I'd want to take a break from the face-hugger before bracing myself into it again. While with the 3DS I'd just carry it around with me and continue playing while I do my business on the throne. I never want Nintendo to stop making auto-stereoscopic 3D handhelds going forward, and I hope Sony follows suit. No 3D in Vita was a deal breaker for me.
Good to know!
Well yeah, but they are 3D remakes. That's one of the biggest draws for playing them again for those who played them previously... but since you've already done that, and you have a bunch of 2DS's laying around, then sure suit yourself
I have the Sony HMZ-T1, that's where I'd play PS3 Super Hang-On in 3D if I get it. Cross-talk free, OLED in-your-face 3D. I wonder if it runs in 60fps in 3D on PS3.
I thought PS3 and PS4 games are limited to 30 fps in 3D.
Dragoon En Regalia
Member
NintendoLife GFII review. It's fine up until the part where the reviewer basically says the game's unfair, which it isn't (he's also trying to say that all of SEGA's Super-Scalar games were done to maximize coin-feeding, which OutRun disproves). And since there's a justifiable way to play with extra energy (focusing on learning stages one-by-one and breaking record scores)...
Can't wait for you to review this, Roto! I've gotten much better at the second stage now, but the third's as labyrinthine as its awesome tune.
Can't wait for you to review this, Roto! I've gotten much better at the second stage now, but the third's as labyrinthine as its awesome tune.
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