Omg 10K if you have info tell me please!Things are about to get interesting.
BTW, NateDrake is a fellow Portuguese.
He does get info from Emily Rogers, plus he's an actual reporter (as I was told in this thread).Is this as trustworthy as Eurogamer?
No disrespect to 10k but I think all he knows are what Emily and Nate have told him in addition to his Polaris sources.Omg 10K if you have info tell me please!
Is this as trustworthy as Eurogamer?
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No disrespect to 10k but I think all he knows are what Emily and Nate have told him in addition to his Polaris sources.
Things are about to get interesting.
BTW, NateDrake is a fellow Portuguese.
If 10k stated his own name, it'd be a rumor taken with a mountain of salt.Omg 10K if you have info tell me please!
I always find it funny how Spanish people tell me they can't understand Portuguese at all but the Portuguese can understand Spanish mostly lol.He is near Spanish.
If 10k stated his own name, it'd be a rumor taken with a mountain of salt.
That's nonsense, I'm a fluent Spanish speaker and travelled around Brazil speaking Spanish and understanding Portuguese. Spanish is much easier for Portuguese speakers than vice versa but Spanish speakers can read Portuguese relatively easily and understand various amounts of spoken Portuguese.I always find it funny how Spanish people tell me they can't understand Portuguese at all but the Portuguese can understand Spanish mostly lol.
It's Kevin. Don't do this.
Things are about to get interesting.
BTW, NateDrake is a fellow Portuguese.
That's nonsense, I'm a fluent Spanish speaker and travelled around Brazil speaking Spanish and understanding Portuguese. Spanish is much easier for Portuguese speakers than vice versa but Spanish speakers can read Portuguese relatively easily and understand various amounts of spoken Portuguese.
"Can't understand at all" is horseshit but people love to exaggerate .
Azorean Portuguese.
Maybe. Just because it's Pascal based doesn't mean it will be incredibly powerful. The GPU can scale down significantly.
From OP :
Nvidia may even be taking a loss on this deal.
That's unusual.
Well of course. Not being in the console business hurt their feelings. You can only be salty for so long. Maybe it's also that they just needed someone to buy spare Tegras.That's unusual.
Aren't the spare Tegras at 20nm which nobody wants to use? I'd assume the Tegras in the nx handheld will be new 16nm ones.Well of course. Not being in the console business hurt their feelings. You can only be salty for so long. Maybe it's also that they just needed someone to buy spare Tegras.
Aren't the spare Tegras at 20nm which nobody wants to use? I'd assume the Tegras in the nx handheld will be new 16nm ones.
Let's clarify, though:
It's their market leading successes that have always been connected to their lateral thinking with withered technology strategy.
Wait, he is?Things are about to get interesting.
BTW, NateDrake is a fellow Portuguese.
I don't know if this can work anymore when huge portions of your addressable audience carry very advanced devices with them at all times.
That's not how businesses operate.Well of course. Not being in the console business hurt their feelings. You can only be salty for so long. Maybe it's also that they just needed someone to buy spare Tegras.
That's not how businesses operate.
I'm highly skeptical of this rumor.
That's not how businesses operate.
I'm highly skeptical of this rumor.
Isnt the rumour that Nvidia had a contract with a manufacturer for a certain amount of chips that they weren't going to need since the X1 largely flopped.
Nvidia was hoping to renegotiate that deal as it would cost them 300M to back out. In comes Nintendo. so even if Nvidia sold the chips at cost. It would be saving them 300M by not having to back out of the first deal.
I've never heard that rumor jdstorm. Do you have a source on that? Sounds like rampant speculation in order to justify this supposed deal Nintendo are getting. But the way I see it, the deal with Nvidia is on the Tegra IP along with a contract for software support, assistance and design collaboration. Nintendo would still also be paying TSMC directly to fabricate the wafers for them.
Nvidia has no logical reason to be "desperate" to get into the console business, with it's thin profit margins. It's a narrative AMD apologists have run with, but it holds no water.
They literally don't need the action. There's simply no way they jumped in, to take a loss.
Nvidia has no logical reason to be "desperate" to get into the console business, with it's thin profit margins. It's a narrative AMD apologists have run with, but it holds no water.
They literally don't need the action. There's simply no way they jumped in, to take a loss.
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They are desperate for Tegra sales. Teslas and some under performing tablets aren't going to make keeping their mobile division worthwhile.
Well a nintendo system will sell more product than just about anything Nvidia will sell on its own (other than car stuff).Nvidia has no logical reason to be "desperate" to get into the console business, with it's thin profit margins. It's a narrative AMD apologists have run with, but it holds no water.
They literally don't need the action. There's simply no way they jumped in, to take a loss.
That's unusual.
They are desperate for Tegra sales. Teslas and some under performing tablets aren't going to make keeping their mobile division worthwhile.
A great analysis by Thraktor, as usual from him. But the hypothesis about the shared SoC across hh and home does not see much support in the analysis. At the end of the day, a pricey SoC is a pricey SoC, whether you can physically host it in a hh environment or not.
While on the subject of NX hh getting within a throwing CPU distance from the ps4/xbone, here's a test I did recently on something more practical for general-computing peformance - binary searches in real-life-sized datasets.
The test is single-core, and the participants are a Bobcat @1.333GHz, two A53s at 1.5GHz and 1.51GHz, respectievly, and an Ivy Bridge @1.6GHz. The results clearly show that while naive code runs better on the Bobcat, properly-optimized code (in terms of data access, not instructions) can be as performant on the A53 at a minimal clock advantage over the bobcat, and more importantly, a comparable RAM bus. What that means is that given ~6 cores have been traditionally made available to apps on the ps4/xbone, a cluster of 2GHz A53s (and a separate small dedicated core for the OS, wii/wiiU-style) can be also within a throwing distance for general-purpose computing, given an adequate RAM bus.
| CPU | N-way SIMD ALUs | flops/clock/core |
| ------------------------- | ---------------- | ---------------- |
| IBM PowerPC 750CL (Wii U CPU) | 2-way | 1.51 |
| AMD Bobcat | 2-way | 1.47 |
| Intel Sandy Bridge | 8-way | 9.04 |
| Intel Ivy Bridge (no SMT) | 8-way | 8.82 |
| Intel Ivy Bridge | 8-way | 9.09 |
| Intel Haswell | 8-way | 9.56 |
| Intel Xeon Phi / KNC | 16-way | 6.62 |
| iMX53 Cortex-A8 | 2-way | 2.23 |
| RK3368 Cortex-A53 | 2-way | 2.42 |
| AppliedMicro X-Gene 1 | 2-way | 2.71 |
| Apple A7 | 4-way | 11.07 |
| Apple A8 | 4-way | 12.19 |
| Apple A9 | 4-way | 16.79 |
That's also likely the part which is "semi" accurate.
They are not "desperate" in the slightest.
Auto is basically all Tegra based.
Their stock is also just under double what it was at the start of the year. So investors don't think they are struggling either.