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[PepsimanVsJoe]

Haha sweet. Gonna troll the namdai beggers.

kiryogi
banned

Huh...Wonder what brought this on?
He's always the nicest fellow too....

 

[jcm]

Vesperia PS3 isn't coming over due to sales more than piracy concerns.. it's already been out on the 360. The number of people willing to double dip will be an even smaller niche of the original niche that are interested in non-final fantasy JRPGs. And Graces PS3 was just announced, so they might still announce it, assuming they can make a return on investment, or not make a larger profit putting their staff on other projects. It is a business after all.

All of the games they ported to NA have minimal translation costs compared to the novels worth of text and voice acting required for a Tales game. They certainly aren't in a position to take a big risk. Namco porting another tales game does not magically make them billions of dollars, and blaming their huge losses on not bringing Tales over is delusional when sales of Tales games are part of the problem. Translating a new tales game is a big risk with a high translation cost and niche at best sales.

http://www.talesunion.com/news/tales-studios-debt-what-it-means-for-the-series--960.html
http://blog.esuteru.com/archives/516469.html

"For those who have been following the Tales news as of late, you likely already know that Namco Tales Studio is in severe debt, barely covering their short-term debts and with long term debts almost four times their current reserves."

The Tales studio can't even turn a dime in Japan, let alone NA. No wonder their games aren't going anywhere. Again Namco knows better than to bring over games that aren't even doing well in Japan. Being loud and declaring how you're entitled to an English Tales game won't make them change their mind unless there's a couple hundred thousand more of you.

That doesn't explain why they don't sell the international rights and let someone else shoulder the risk.

 

[Rahxephon91]

That doesn't explain why they don't sell the international rights and let someone else shoulder the risk.

I don't want to sound like an idiot, but isn't it basically because its a series they take pride in. It's their franchise.

 

[Rpgmonkey]

Looks like there's going to be a launch conference for the new Tales games at 2PM Japan Time today (3hrs 15 from this post) according to the Tales Studio producer's twitter.

Wonder how much new info we'll get.

Usual stuff they do at every year's conference. Talk about the direction they want to take Tales in, give a few details and screenshots of new games, hype up the game with the closest release date, present some art, producers say some stuff about the game they're involved with, and the day is over.

They'll definitely elaborate on the new content on ToG-F and what the F is supposed to symbolize.

It'd be nice if they have another piece of concept art for the new game since I don't expect much beyond that. Wonder if they'll jump the gun even more and say they also have something for the 3DS in the works. :lol

 

[ShockingAlberto]

That doesn't explain why they don't sell the international rights and let someone else shoulder the risk.

Because they want to release some games here, not all.

That complicates things when people are publishing other games in your series.

 

[jcm]

I don't want to sound like an idiot, but isn't it basically because its a series they take pride in. It's their franchise.

Maybe, but if they need cash and they aren't planning their own release it might make sense. Movie studios do it all the time. They actually pre-sell international rights to fund development budgets.

Because they want to release some games here, not all.

That complicates things when people are publishing other games in your series.

They wouldn't have to sell the rights to anything they wanted to keep for themselves. Vesperia PS3 has a completed game and a nearly complete localization. I'd think they could finish it for no more than a few hundred thousand dollars. That's a valuable asset.

 

[Kagari]

Looks like there's going to be a launch conference for the new Tales games at 2PM Japan Time today (3hrs 15 from this post) according to the Tales Studio producer's twitter.

Wonder how much new info we'll get.

Haha, just came to post this.

 

[Aeana]

I hope they show something from the new game besides the art from Jump.

 

[ULTROS!]

Will there be any live coverages, twitter updates, or live blogs about the conference?

 

[Firestorm]

Will there be any live coverages, twitter updates, or live blogs about the conference?

Usually some Japanese liveblogs that can be translated if any of the Japanese Tales fans on GAF can actually stand wading through these topics after all the "WAAAAHHH NAMCO STUPID WONT TRANSLATE OUR GAME" posts.

 

[Kagari]

Famitsu will probably cover.

Namco updated their official release pages in the meantime:

http://www.bandainamcogames.co.jp/cs_support/catalog/index.php?div=2&par=28
http://www.bandainamcogames.co.jp/cs_support/catalog/index.php?div=2&par=25

 

[Negator]

It's in 30ish minutes if I'm not mistaken?

Looks like I'm staying up tonight.

 

[ULTROS!]

There's another RPG for the PS3 that's not Tales of PS3 nor Tales of Graces F according to the official site (bandainamcogames.co.jp).

 

[Aeana]

Usually some Japanese liveblogs that can be translated if any of the Japanese Tales fans on GAF can actually stand wading through these topics after all the "WAAAAHHH NAMCO STUPID WONT TRANSLATE OUR GAME" posts.

Well, I'll be following it. If nobody else translates the stuff, I will.

 

[ULTROS!]

Well, I'll be following it. If nobody else translates the stuff, I will.

Thank you.

 

[Negator]

Well, I'll be following it. If nobody else translates the stuff, I will.

This is very much appreciated, thank you.

 

[Firestorm]

Well, I'll be following it. If nobody else translates the stuff, I will.

<3

 

[Rpgmonkey]

There's another RPG for the PS3 that's not Tales of PS3 nor Tales of Graces F according to the official site (bandainamcogames.co.jp).

That's been there for years IIRC, best to ignore it.

 

[ULTROS!]

It's 2:00 PM in Japan now. Hope to see/hear good info about the next Tales Of.

 

[Aeana]

http://twitter.com/INSIDEjp

Looks like it's being covered by this person.

 

[Bebpo]

Excited!

 

[Pooya]

Isn't this started already?

 

[Aeana]

I don't see any news from anybody yet.

 

[Rpgmonkey]

Isn't this started already?

Usually no one posts anything until around 30 minutes in.

 

[ULTROS!]

It's almost 3:00PM in Japan... No word yet?

 

[Pooya]

It's almost 3:00PM in Japan... No word yet?

If it started on time, it's been one hour already, it's probably over by now, bahabaha.

 

[Aeana]

Some stuff is starting to come through. Nothing we haven't heard about yet though.

 

[Pooya]

http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/1238356_1124.html

 

[ULTROS!]

According to my Google Translator... It says that the new entry of the Tales series is a slightly dark and serious game.

 

[Aeana]

They denied the rumor about the next game being called Tales of Unitia.

 

[Aeana]

The best version of Radiant Mythology 2 is coming out September 29. Nothing about any Wii or DS games.

 

[Rpgmonkey]

According to my Google Translator... It says that the new entry of the Tales series is a slightly dark and serious game.

Just talking about the atmosphere given off by the artwork we've seen.

 

[hteng]

sounds like nothing much :/

 

[ULTROS!]

And I was expecting a grittier/darker Tales game. :/

 

[Aeana]

Well, it's not surprising that there wasn't much at the event. It doesn't seem like they're ready to show the new game. I did expect a bit more info on ToGf, though.

 

[Kagari]

Direct feeds would be nice.

 

[Rpgmonkey]

sounds like nothing much :/

The conference usually gets "better" as it goes along.

Usually the new games are introduced first, then they start going into detail. Though I'm not sure if it's over yet or not.

And I was expecting a grittier/darker Tales game. :/

It still might!

 

[ShockingAlberto]

So they won't even release Tales info in Japan now.

 

[Kagari]

It's over now.

 

[Poyunch]

That was exciting. :lol

 

[Tailzo]

According to my Google Translator... It says that the new entry of the Tales series is a slightly dark and serious game.

If that means grown-up main charatcers, I'm happy.

If it means "next gen brown and gray" I am not happy.

 

[lordfroakie]

What was the point of this event? :lol

 

[Aeana]

What was the point of this event? :lol

Formal announcements of the new games. The Jump info we got last week was a leak. The actual issue actually comes out today.

 

[hteng]

wait.. what was the name of the new PS3 tales?

 

[Rpgmonkey]

Huh, first year this thing was uninteresting. :lol

There's usually a lot more to them.

Seems like ToPS3 might be a repeat of what they did with Graces. Say it's in development with few details, trailer at TGS (or Jump Festa), trailer included with the bonus DVD for preordering Graces, formal announcement sometime next year, release in the Summer or Winter.

 

[Aeana]

wait.. what was the name of the new PS3 tales?

It doesn't have one yet.

 

[Bebpo]

All the matters is if they had trailers for Graces PS3 & Noname PS3

Because if so I want to see them!

 

[SolidSnakex]

Tales of Graces F
Wii's Tales of Graces, powered up for PlayStation 3. The new version includes an after-story that wasn't in the original Wii version. A release is set for Winter 2010.

"Next Tales of"
This is what Famitsu uses to refer to the new PS3 title. A number of concept images were shared at the press conference. These left the site's reporters with the impression that the new game will have a darker feel than past Tales games. Namco Bandai did not share release info.

The site promises additional details to follow.

http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2010/08/02/tales_games_confirmed/

 

[ULTROS!]

Interesting, so will we finally see a "Final Fantasy Versus XIII" equivalent of the Tales series (that is, going for a darker feel)?

 

[ShockingAlberto]

Is the PS3 Graces an up-res with some additional content or are they going through and touching up the models and textures?