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Shin Megami Tensei IV: Apocalypse |OT| Tokyo's Bad Day Is Too Sweet
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Trojita
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You should have gone with a bad idea.
Shin Megami Tensei IV: Apocalypse |OT| Pokégod Go
cj_iwakura
Member
Lucifer's gonna have to sell a serious pitch to turn me away from the Polytheist Alliance, because those guys have balls of steel to step against Law and Chaos.
Also, the title's a reference to a joke about the DLC and the Atlus 'what do we name it' video.
Haha yeah i know about the nothing ending. It was the first ending i got but i reloaded my save after finding out. I should probably go back and get it for completions sake
9 AM PST on the 20th
Pureauthor
Member
I love Dagda's dubbed voice.
cj_iwakura
Member
I can't wait to hear the rest of the Alliance's.
A lot of the English voices are great, but Dagda's is certainly one of the best.
Tyrant Rave
Banned
It feels like it's been forever since we had one of these. Looking forward to playing with everyone again! Can't wait till I get off work tomorrow.
I didn't even start DQ7 because of this game lol
I didn't even start DQ7 because of this game lol
Inquisitive_Ghost
Member
Also, as someone whose first playthrough of SMTIV fell into the nonsensical hole of being too neutral to get the Neutral ending, this:
is very nice to hear.
is very nice to hear.
lol @ this
it's in regards to the untranslated scene
so basically, if you see this scene it means you fucking suck
it's in regards to the untranslated scene
so basically, if you see this scene it means you fucking suck
The42gamer
Banned
Thanks for the link. I only ever got the Chaos ending and that was a little of two years ago. Might as well watch the Neutral path before tomorrow
JoeyJungle
Banned
Ugh, I have DQ7 after waiting years for it, and never got very far in SMT4, but I'm probably going to pick this up anyway. I haven't been following this game at all, is the MC supposed to be androgynous? Or are they explicitly male/female?
ActStriker
Member
Urgh, why did this and DQ7 have to come out around the same time?
What's the point in hiding lore entries behind timed free dlcs? Doesn't make sense to me.
There's your mistake, we don't do pairings in SMT, we choose one path and stick to it!
There's your mistake, we don't do pairings in SMT, we choose one path and stick to it!
Yeah, if anything, during a boss just heal your party or something until they come back.
Androgynous characters are often specified as male or female...but in this game the main character is just male. Weird question though, what games are you playing where main character sex is not clear lol?
dreamlongdead
Member
I got some gift money, so I grabbed SMT IV: Apocalypse and Dragon Quest VII. Extremely stoked to have both of them!
I basically have everything I need, but I'll still get Bravely Second, Luigi's Mansion 2, and a few others when holidays come up. Pokemon Sun/Moon is the only big new release left, which actually makes it easy on the wallet. I have plenty on my plate.
I basically have everything I need, but I'll still get Bravely Second, Luigi's Mansion 2, and a few others when holidays come up. Pokemon Sun/Moon is the only big new release left, which actually makes it easy on the wallet. I have plenty on my plate.
Skipped out on 4 because I didn't really dig the samurai theme. This one looks like it might appeal to me more, though. Do I need to have played 4 for this? Or is it a stand alone thing?
Edit - d'oh, probably should have read the whole OP first. hmm, maybe I won't get this then.
Edit - d'oh, probably should have read the whole OP first. hmm, maybe I won't get this then.
Is that all? Because the samurai theme gets thrown out the window after a couple hours once you hit Tokyo. And even then the samurai aspects are hardly traditional...
You start with IV, get frustrated with the first dungeon and then give up on the series. It's the only way.
There's an image out there with a bunch of tips on where to start but I'm not sure where to find it. Storywise you're fine starting with pretty much any title except this one since it's a direct sequel to IV. They do explain enough of the previous game's story in the first hour or so to give you just enough context but you'll still be missing a lot of details so I dunno. If that doesn't bother you, you could start here.
Mechanics-wise, some people recommend starting with one of the easier spin-offs and work your way up. If you're an experienced rpg player or have high tolerance towards difficult games I'd say just go for either IV or Nocturne. IV is a bit more friendly in the sense that you don't have to wonder what the hell a "Sukukaja" means since Nocturne gives you no descriptions when you're learning a new skill.
The samurai theme gets subverted so hard the moment the game shifts to Tokyo, which is just a few hours into the game.
Uhh, I don't know how much research you made about IV back when it released, but
it's about samurais for like 1 hour, the samurai thing is pretty much a facade for the actual post dystopian techno punk crazy setting.
Alright, i'll compromise and use my weekends for DQ and weekdays for SMTIV:A. I just like playing DQ in chunks rather than bites.
The important thing is that I bought DQVII at launch!
itchyass86
Member
A copy arrived in the mail today. Haven't had much time to play it but since the day is aboot over, I reckon it's bout time to hunt. Woohoooo!
JTCx
Member
Looking at the dlc i see that they still have the exp and macca dungeons. Is this still near mandatory because of how bad the macca gain in SMT4 was? It pissed me off that the endgame gear was ridiculously expensive and you couldn't farm macca at a reasonable time in order to obtain these, resulting in you spending money just to buy these.
oh word? ok then lol guess I'll have to give 4 another shot
Interesting. I felt pretty well off in terms of Macca at the end of SMT IV. It might be because I didn't seek the high end gearsince I was blowing everything up with high MAG anywaysand I didn't really need to get into fusion shenanigans for the same reason.
If you had problems with money in SMT IV, you're going to have one hell of a time in Apocalypse because I found that cash was noticeably harder to come by this time around.
TheGeniusArcana
Member
About how long was the neutral route in IV? I got law on my first run, but want to finish a neutral run I started ages ago. I think I'm at the part where you meet the Ring of Gaea lady that has a character portrait for no reason.
Tyrant Rave
Banned
We did an avatar bandwagon when 4 came out, but if anyone wants in on it here's a smirk template:
cj_iwakura
Member
That's clever. Should've shared in the review thread!
SpaceBridge
Member
I'm a bit concerned about how much of the previous SMTIV's environments are recycled. Is there actually new parts of the city to explore?
Trojita
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I didn't know I was needed!
I would also like to know this.
Most of the environments are recycled, along with the music (unfortunately). You won't be doing much "exploring," per se, because any areas conducive to that, you've already seen in SMT IV. However, most of the areas that are directly important to the story are new.