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[Rootbeer]

I own a Vita and say nay. I also don't trust them to give it proper support and be able to get developers on board, particularly in the west.

They'd probably stick with proprietary storage which has been a huge problem on the vita. Nobody wants to pay those ridiculous prices when cheap microsd cards are available.

With Sony out of the picture in the dedicated portable games market, it gives the NX more breathing room -- and it's going to need it.

 

[mavericktopgun]

Never again.

 

[meppi]

They should but they won't.
They make brilliant handhelds, but for some reason don't put in the work that would make them actually sell.
Like a steady stream of first party games as well as actually marketing the thing.

 

[test_account]

I would buy it, but it wont be made, so nay.

No, I don't trust them after Vita.

What is there to trust or not trust?

 

[Hutchie]

Sony should fix the vita...its not dead yet Jim

 

[Guymelef]

Not really. It sold a good chunk of units, but they might have just given you an eye patch and a peg leg with your purchase because nobody bought software for it. Making it unattractive to retailers and not doing great for Sony because you make your money on software sales not hardware, because the margins just aren't there.

3DS software ratio isn't much better than PSP.

 

[timshundo]

omg vita memory cards still have a 6x markup over... basically any other form of flash storage!?

Fuck Sony portables.

Nay.

 

[ChackanKun]

Would buy it, but no on launch.

Love my VITA, but Sony screwed it up big time.

 

[Skyzard]

If my Vita games would be playable on it, I'd buy it in a heartbeat for all the new indies. Sony makes the best handhelds.

 

[Dargor]

They should only do that if they plan to really support the thing.

 

[cchum]

Remote play is pretty much the same thing, so no.

But Sony can do what they want.

 

[Sammy Samusu]

The demand isn't there. 💆

 

[Fox_Mulder]

Remote play is pretty much the same thing, so no.

No, it's really not.
It's a portable device and you don't always have a steady internet connection. Plus lag.

 

[crinale]

The latest mech-based L5 game had a suspicious misterious second portable device with the triangle and X buttons typical of the PS consoles.
PSP3 incoming?

Yeah that one-screen thing being anonymous platform made Japanese gamers think that's NX prototype or something. Then some dude re-winded youtube stream and found X, triangle buttons and such..

 

[2+2=5]

I think that a ps4 or ps5 portable(a real ps4 or ps5 in handheld form i mean) isn't that improbable(i wouldn't rule out a xbox1 handheld too), but a handheld with its own hardware and library is impossible and probably we'll never see one ever again even from nintendo, handhelds like we know them are dead.

 

[Eumi]

I would love another proper go at it but I'm not sure they want to. Depending on the power of the NX they might not have the bug edge both the paper and vita had over their competitors.

 

[Primethius]

No. I don't think the handheld market is big enough to sustain two dedicated handhelds anymore.

 

[Asd202]

Dont buy it then, no one is forcing you

I want wRPGs on a handheld if possible.

You won't get it with NX it's too underpowered and if there was something it would have ran like shit. Imagine something as unoptimized as Fallout 4 on something like NX sub 5FPS right there.

 

[NeoRausch]

You know what they should do?
They should make mobile remote play available for all mobile devices.
I mean, it already works for most modern Phones when hacked in.

 

[Nudull]

...you did see how hard the Vita bombed, right OP?

 

[MatrixMan.EXE]

Sony dominates the home console market. They have no chance in dominating the mobile market.

It would be pointless. They don't have the Microsoft warchest.

Even with the warchest it would be pointless. But yeah, I agree.

 

[Theonik]

Yea

(It will go badly for them though but possibly better than the NX)

 

[EGM1966]

Nay.

 

[demosthenes]

Yay or Nay?

EDIT
What about a PS4 Portable?

All the ps4 games on the go

It's dead jim.

There will never be another Sony handheld.

 

[Deleted member 752119]

No. The vita was great hardware. It's failure just showed that there's not a big enough market for a portable focused on Sony/MS type console games.

Nintendo has a stranglehold on what's left of the handheld gaming market.

 

[18-Volt]

Vita proves that they don't have any million seller franchise to support the system. Only Persona couldn't be able to save Vita, they needed Monster Hunter.

 

[Bowl0l]

Nay. PS VR will need all the help it need when it eventually bombs in Asia thanks to zero price control.

 

[duvjones]

I don't see the point of Sony putting there effort into a handheld. It seemed that Sony was doing everything that they could to sink the Vita pretty much for the word "go", and no, the Vita never really recovered from the rather horrid idea that they needed to build a device that wasn't going to be seen as all that cost effective.

Sony's need for a pricey, expensive to develop for, luxury machine did them in. Mobile and Handheld's can't really do that.

 

[DeepEnigma]

The Vita is a great device, but no.

They should continue focusing on where they are leading and what they do best in that arena.

 

[cw_sasuke]

You won't get it with NX it's too underpowered and if there was something it would have ran like shit. Imagine something as unoptimized as Fallout 4 on something like NX sub 5FPS right there.

Thats why i said if possible - i dont know what kind of hardware NX will end up using. Skyrim run on Xbox/PS3 and even in the worst case scenario NX will be alot more potent than WiiU.

Lets wait for actual specs before deciding what is and isnt possible.

 

[wapplew]

It'll be funny if gravity rush 3 become next portable exclusive.

 

[Rezae]

PSP and Vita are among my favorite systems of all-time, but nope. They didn't want to support the Vita, why would they change their tune now? Sounds like even Nintendo isn't dumb enough to release a handheld-only device.

 

[Mr. Pointy]

I wish Sony didn't balls up the Vita, but they did. So I don't think they should try for another portable.

 

[HotHamBoy]

I'm gonna ride my Vita train all the way to the grave, but after two hardware flops in a row (PSP Go and Vuta) and only minor success with the PSP, Sony is done with handhelds.

Unlike Nintendo, Sony can read the writing on the wall. The handheld market can't compete with phones and tablets because everyone already has those and the games are cheap as fuck.

 

[KojiKnight]

I've owned 2 vitas and a vita TV.... nope. Sony will give up support within a year, then it's back to relying on indies and small Japanese studios who have their games full of waifus... I'm not anti-waifu, but I can only have so many and my wife doesn't approve.

 

[ArtHands]

No. Best that sony give up considering how failed the vita is.

 

[Akainu]

I wish. But then they would have to at least pretend to try.

 

[Valentus]

The only thing that saved the PSP was Crisis Core/ Monster Hunter 2. Without that, it would have been Vita Zero.

Its dead jim, sony fought a lost war in the portable market.

 

[Ricky_R]

It just wouldn't make sense.

 

[NoctisVsStar]

No

 

[Atomski]

I would buy it, but it wont be made, so nay.



What is there to trust or not trust?

 

[Infernal Monkey]

Sony needs to stay the fuck away from portable gaming after how they treated the Vita.

 

[JimiNutz]

How about this for a model.
You release your console (let's say PS4) then 4 or 5 years later you release a portable version (that also plugs into TV if needed) and your Pro version (Neo).

Companies are so keen on remastering games so they can just resell all the best games from the past 4 or 5 years with minor tweaks for the new portable version. Portable version should also play all PSN games that released on PS4 as well so will have a big library from day one.

PS4 wasn't exactly a powerhouse at launch and was pretty small to start with. Surely they could squeeze similar tech into a portable form 5 years after launch?

The portable version is essentially just a PS4 with no physical media (download only) but portable (maybe detachable screen).

 

[HotHamBoy]

Sony needs to stay the fuck away from portable gaming after how they treated the Vita.

They may not have supported it with First Party efforts after seeing game after game flop in the first two years (and I don't really blame them), but arguably the worst thing they did was the memory cards.

On the other hand, they gave us cross-buy, cross-save and cross-play. Nintendo hasn't even done cross-save with VC titles, let alone cross-buy.

They've been really, really good about securing indie support for Vita and those are the perfect kind of games for a handheld.

 

[Orayn]

How about this for a model.
You release your console (let's say PS4) then 4 or 5 years later you release a portable version (that also plugs into TV if needed) and your Pro version (Neo).

Companies are so keen on remastering games so they can just resell all the best games from the past 4 or 5 years with minor tweaks for the new portable version. Portable version should also play all PSN games that released on PS4 as well so will have a big library from day one.

PS4 wasn't exactly a powerhouse at launch and was pretty small to start with. Surely they could squeeze similar tech into a portable form 5 years after launch?

The portable version is essentially just a PS4 with no physical media (download only) but portable (maybe detachable screen).

No.

 

[sixteen-bit]

Wouldn't make sense to respond to things until it's out and whether or not it's successful

 

[FaintDeftone]

Not a good idea, but I would buy one in a heartbeat if we got Lumines 4 on it.

 

[The Elite]

Can I just get the PS4 UI over the Vita's bubbles. That's a software update I want... with folders.

 

[wesleyshark]

The Vita was a mistake. Why would they repeat it?

 

[LordBaztion]

Japanese market moves around handhelds, I'm not sure how long can the vita last there, specially considering the NX, but I think if sony doesn't make another handheld they risk losing support of some Japanese developers.