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Shuhei Yoshida: Shadow of the Colossus On PS4 Is A Remake Not A Remaster
- Thread starter YoRHa No.2 Type B
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Greatest Ever
Member
Lock er down, the medium has officially peaked.
Spiritwalker
Member
Indeed. It looks really good.
He said this like the next day.
Napalm_Frank
Member
N.Sane Trilogy officially branded as a remake by Yoshida.
YoRHa No.2 Type B
Banned
There's still the chance that the HIDDEN colossus wasn't really discovered so we can spend multiple hours again to find out.
Maybe by reaching the top 10 times and then it appears?
Jonneh3003
Banned
Let's hope they fix Wander's face. The current model just looks like some random guy.
YoRHa No.2 Type B
Banned
I personally would call the N.Sane Trilogy as Remake.
Whatever Yoshida says, SotC looks totally like a remaster to me. Atleast a remaster with way more effort.
GrantDaNasty
Member
Sony seems to have a weird time explaining this stuff in the PS4-era after last gen there were so many Remasters. First the Crash trilogy, now this.
Sony: "No see, MGS2/3/PW was a Remaster, This is a Remake"
Audience: "...anything different about it then?"
Sony: "Aside from the visuals, no."
Audience: "...."
Sony: "No see, MGS2/3/PW was a Remaster, This is a Remake"
Audience: "...anything different about it then?"
Sony: "Aside from the visuals, no."
Audience: "...."
YoRHa No.2 Type B
Banned
Atleast we get a new made top notch awkward control scheme, which will probably be far worse than the original.
Only problem: This is NOT a REMAKE.
Corpsepyre
Banned
The more important question is whether the score will be the same.
Alexander DeLarge
Member
After this, I'd love for Bluepoint to remaster Demon's Souls (and finish/implement the final archstone)
It's probably, because some devs/companies like to call other obvious remakes a "remaster" such as Crash trilogy.
ScaryShark
Banned
Not everyone has played it. This introduces it to a brand new audience. Plenty of people playing PS4 that weren't even born in 2005.
It's nice but a remake is never going to beat nostalgia. The original was a mind-blowing experience and HD graphics can't trump the memories of that first time. For new players I'm sure this will be amazing but personally I'm not that bothered.
Zomba13
Member
But... They are REMAKING the game. REMADE models, REMADE textures etc. It's not them just upping the resolution and tiding up the original textures. They are MAKING new ones. Just like with Crash, the assets are brand new.
YoRHa No.2 Type B
Banned
But they already remastered this game on PS3. So then does every company remaster every one of their beloved games forever? *looks at the flood of remakes and remasters on PS4* Welp :|
Mr.Deadshot
Member
I hope they get the new controls right. The original was rather unplayable for me.
TheMoon
Member
It's the same stupid discussion from Ocarina of Time 3D days. Everything was new. Higher poly 3D models, textures, additional mechanics. But it used the original version's codebase so you weren't allowed to call it a remake.
So what would you suggest to those people who never played this game?
Sure, all people in the world have a PS3. Also all people in world were born before 2000.
also, it's the same thing as "why 20th Century Fox is re-releasing Alien on 4K Blu-ray, it's already available on VHS!!!"
Some people believe there has to be relevant changes to gameplay as well, in order to call something a remake. People have very different opinions on whether or not something is a remake or remaster.
For example, it was discussed whether or not both OOT and The Wind Waker were remakes or remasters. Both got a significant graphical boost, and both had a few QOL changes, but was it enough to call them remakes? Where do we draw the line?
YoRHa No.2 Type B
Banned
As long as devs are too lazy to implement backwards compability to their new systems, this trend will continue forever.
People often like to trade in their last gen console for the current one. I'm no exception. I won't deny the fact that I don't like to go back to PS3, even though I possess a PS3 and even PS2 even.
Yes remaster it was not a remake.
The game is 12 years old now,people who enjoy The Last Guardian but never play this it makes total sense.
Crash is technically a remake cos lost code and art, but its gameplay is intentionally close to the original. It is a curious case indeed.
You said it better than me.
ScaryShark
Banned
I don't get what you're annoyed at or why you couldn't reasonably answer your own questions. Plenty of people no longer have a PS3 or don't want that version or even know about it. This is clearly a much bigger step than that remaster and will likely control and perform better which might be appealing for more people.
It's extremely easy to ignore this release completely if you don't see the 'point'. It's only a good thing IMO if new or different people get to now experience it. Just because it's not for you doesn't mean it shouldn't exist.
YoRHa No.2 Type B
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Well I would argue that Crash has a totally different codebase.
CassidyIzABeast
Member
It's a remade remaster.
Visualante2
Member
"We want to charge $40+ for this"
Huge Succeeded
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this game has more than the slight tweaks we've come to expect from 'remasters' this generation. How many 'remasters' go beyond simple visual tweaks and a higher resolution/framerate? Halo Anniversaries and GTA V?
Jawbreaker
Member
$40 would be a steal, honestly. That would make me really happy.
YoRHa No.2 Type B
Banned
Just a heads up: I'm just posting an article. I don't even close agree with that statement.
It's clearly a remaster, with just way more effort than other remasters lately.
So, if people come in here and claim: "I thought this was obvious."
Then:
1. Either you are trolling
or
2. You have no idea what a remake is.
Some people made comparisions to Crash.
While the level design is pretty much the same as supposed to the PS1 games. It is a REMAKE.
It's like you have a picture and look at it and try to make a much more prettier picture from scratch, with a picture as help for orientation.
With SotC, you basically erase some lines on the picture and make them much more prettier and modify it more. So, it's just a high effort remaster.
It's clearly a remaster, with just way more effort than other remasters lately.
So, if people come in here and claim: "I thought this was obvious."
Then:
1. Either you are trolling
or
2. You have no idea what a remake is.
Some people made comparisions to Crash.
While the level design is pretty much the same as supposed to the PS1 games. It is a REMAKE.
It's like you have a picture and look at it and try to make a much more prettier picture from scratch, with a picture as help for orientation.
With SotC, you basically erase some lines on the picture and make them much more prettier and modify it more. So, it's just a high effort remaster.
TheMoon
Member
I'd have called it a remake even without knowing that. A remaster touches up what is already there. That's why remasters of PSOne era games don't really exist. Nobody just goes and remasters those.
funkystudent
Member
So its the HD remaster but with a graphical overhaul or are they making meaningful changes?
I guess my point in my reply was that you were saying people weren't born or didn't play it and that's reason enough. You could say that about any game ever and I just don't think that's a good enough reason, especially when it was remastered already.
The only game I can think of that was remastered and then remade was Ratchet & Clank. It at least made sense with R&C because there was a movie. Unless there's a Shadow movie coming or a Shadow II this just seems really out of left field.