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Smash Bros. 3DS Japanese Packaging POSSIBLY Indicates Snake is cut from the game
- Thread starter GregLombardi
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The character credits on the box/official site/start screen apply only to playable characters. Cing, Tose, Eighting, Treasure, and others werent credited for Brawl despite their characters appearing as trophies/Assist Trophies.
This would make no sense and would never happen. Yet, I would be completely okay with it.
Anyways, while I'm not hopeful about Snake returning, I don't think this means much, based on Intelligent Systems not being mentioned on the box of Melee and the lack of any credits for Earthbound despite Ness almost certainly returning.
Nintendoga
Member
I understand why he wouldn't be in, but I seriously can't understand why so many people in this thread say the game's better off without him.
Anybody getting cut does not make the game better, even if R.O.B. was cut, it wouldn't make the game better, it would just be "oh this character some people liked got cut, that sucks."
The "he doesn't fit in" excuse annoys me too, if you put Zero Suit Samus or Marth next to Mario, they would look just out of place as Snake would. All of these Nintendo characters come from different time periods and eras (Fire Emblem sporting a medieval style while others like Captain Falcon or Ness sport a more modern look). Half of these characters look out of place when standing next to another. Fitting in should be the least of Sakurai's problems.
And for people who think the reason behind his "cut" is because MGS5 isn't on the Wii-u, MGS4 was PS3 only, yet they had no problem with Snake being in brawl, nor did they have any trouble marketing MGS4 via soundtrack.
Now a reasonable excuse as to why he might no be in Smash 4, is because Sakurai doesn't want too many 3rd parties in the game. It makes sense seeing how he said he wants this to be first and foremost, A game celebrating Nintendo characters. We already got 3 TP characters, a 4th one might seem like to much for Sakurai, who knows.
All this "he doesn't fit in" and "I'm glad he's cut, he made Brawl worse" bs needs to go tho.
Anybody getting cut does not make the game better, even if R.O.B. was cut, it wouldn't make the game better, it would just be "oh this character some people liked got cut, that sucks."
The "he doesn't fit in" excuse annoys me too, if you put Zero Suit Samus or Marth next to Mario, they would look just out of place as Snake would. All of these Nintendo characters come from different time periods and eras (Fire Emblem sporting a medieval style while others like Captain Falcon or Ness sport a more modern look). Half of these characters look out of place when standing next to another. Fitting in should be the least of Sakurai's problems.
And for people who think the reason behind his "cut" is because MGS5 isn't on the Wii-u, MGS4 was PS3 only, yet they had no problem with Snake being in brawl, nor did they have any trouble marketing MGS4 via soundtrack.
Now a reasonable excuse as to why he might no be in Smash 4, is because Sakurai doesn't want too many 3rd parties in the game. It makes sense seeing how he said he wants this to be first and foremost, A game celebrating Nintendo characters. We already got 3 TP characters, a 4th one might seem like to much for Sakurai, who knows.
All this "he doesn't fit in" and "I'm glad he's cut, he made Brawl worse" bs needs to go tho.
sörine;125958704 said:
Konami is not doing much in general. They are releasing less games in general. All they have money wise is MGS. They replaced the 2D Castlevanias with LoS but who knows where that will go now after 2 was not sold or reviewed as well. Silent Hill was never a big seller but they are clearly trying to make it one with SHs. They canceled what ever Contra reboot tribute thing they teased. Honestly It really feels like Konami could THQ soon if MGS5 does not sell.
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Xpike
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sörine;125958704 said:
Konami isn't making games, at all. The only thing they're doing is Silent Hills, MGSV and PES, in fact they supported the 3DS with Castlevania and Metal Gear already.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Pretty sure this is why Snake is likely not in. And I'll even bold it for you.
"Colonel: Snake, you know who that is?
Snake: You're kidding, right? It's Mario.
Colonel: Mario made his first appearance in 1981, and since then, he's become a worldwide phenomenon. There's probably not a single person who doesn't know Mario. He's that famous.
Snake: Good thing I survived long enough to meet him on the field of battle, huh.
Colonel: This is a once-in-a-lifetime chance, Snake. Now get out there and show him what you're made of. No regrets.
Snake: Got it."
"Colonel: Snake, you know who that is?
Snake: You're kidding, right? It's Mario.
Colonel: Mario made his first appearance in 1981, and since then, he's become a worldwide phenomenon. There's probably not a single person who doesn't know Mario. He's that famous.
Snake: Good thing I survived long enough to meet him on the field of battle, huh.
Colonel: This is a once-in-a-lifetime chance, Snake. Now get out there and show him what you're made of. No regrets.
Snake: Got it."
Tin foil hat thinking
SoulUnison
Banned
It's always sad to have a character cut.
Snake's a big name, had a fun moveset and brought even more variety to the game.
It was likely he wasn't returning, but it still hurts to have more evidence of it.
Snake's a big name, had a fun moveset and brought even more variety to the game.
It was likely he wasn't returning, but it still hurts to have more evidence of it.
Coffee Dog
Banned
I dont think Ness will be out at all.
I am worried however that lucas wont be in. I like the kid.
I am worried however that lucas wont be in. I like the kid.
Baron von Loathsome
Member
There's no reason to assume he is.
LumpOfCole
Member
Will Smash on either platform support DLC characters?
MisterHero
Super Member
Is Ubisoft credited for Rayman? >_>
I know he's probably just a trophy, but you'd think Ubi still gets credit for it.
I know he's probably just a trophy, but you'd think Ubi still gets credit for it.
pinkurocket
Member
Snake's booty might be gone, but Cpt. Falcon's new super defined booty makes up for his absence. Goodbye Snake.
Hello Falcon!booty
Hello Falcon!booty
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
If people strongly believe that Ness is out then I'm willing to make avatar bets based on Ness himself.
I avatar bet anyone that Ness will be in Smash 4. If anyone disagreed, then just let me know.
I avatar bet anyone that Ness will be in Smash 4. If anyone disagreed, then just let me know.
Razgriz-Specter
Member
Well less reason to buy the game I guess.
Solid Samus
Banned
amazing how little it means for a character in a mascot fighting game to have a wholly imaginative, original, and distinct fighting style b/c semantics
i hope your favorite character gets cut because odds are i'd want some other character in instead
I dare you to explain
i hope your favorite character gets cut because odds are i'd want some other character in instead
this news hurts man 
I dare you to explain
To clarify, the character copyright only lists companies of playable characters who are already known to be in the game, and in the order of when each character was originally introduced in the Smash Bros series, thus why Sega (for Sonic the Hedgehog) gets their credit before Capcom (for Mega Man) and Bandai Namco (for Pac-Man) and why Intelligent Systems (for Marth, Ike, Lucina, and Robin) is listed after Pokemon Company, Creatures, and Game Freak (for Pikachu, Charizard, Lucario, and Greninja). Ape and Itoi were never listed in the character credits on the boxart or title screen of the first Smash Bros. game when Ness was a secret character, but was listed for Melee and Brawl when there was an Earthbound character playable by default.
And it only deals with playable characters so that's why Ubisoft lacks a character credit for Rayman. We also know that Mr. Saturn is an item so that would still be Earthbound Universe stuff.
What makes this a confirmation of Snake not being in the game is because Nintendo would have likely promoted that, hey, Snake's back too with a trailer and reveal like Sonic's. Unless Snake is hiding in a cardboard box somewhere waiting for you to unlock him as a surprise, he has probably been cut from the game.
And it only deals with playable characters so that's why Ubisoft lacks a character credit for Rayman. We also know that Mr. Saturn is an item so that would still be Earthbound Universe stuff.
What makes this a confirmation of Snake not being in the game is because Nintendo would have likely promoted that, hey, Snake's back too with a trailer and reveal like Sonic's. Unless Snake is hiding in a cardboard box somewhere waiting for you to unlock him as a surprise, he has probably been cut from the game.
Most people aren't saying that. They're saying that if this proves Snake is cut, then it proves just as much for Ness.
Cutting Ness would just be absolutely senseless. There's no way he's going anywhere.
CrunchyFrog
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/thread
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Good.
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AdawgDaFAB
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Starwolf_UK
Member
I figured out the most likely outcome. The 0.1GB is save data (maybe 64MB rounded or something). I would assume the eShop installation includes the save file space allocated otherwise you could download a game and be unable to save due to lack of space on the SD card.
Baron von Loathsome
Member
The Franklin Badge and Mr Saturn items are already confirmed to be coming back.
Spirit Icana
Member
I don't see 'Camelot' either...
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
Baron von Loathsome
Member
That means absolutely nothing.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Snake haters are on my personal shitlist. Time to boycott Nintendo forever.
Altered Juice
Member
haha seriously
Why would Snake be ON the box?
LOL!
Jawmuncher
Member
Why would Snake be ON the box?
This is great, considering all the box antics as of late.
Not75Drops
Member
Well that explains it then. If that pre-order card contains the actual download code (which it probably does), there's no reason to think that this isn't the final box art. Mother can be covered by what's there and Itoi could be added in once Ness/Lucas are unlocked if that's the case this time.
Rafa=FedKilla
Banned
Had to be cut to male room for Baby Rosalina....
Smiles and Cries
Member
I thought 3DS had a Metal Gear Solid port?
Glass Rebel
Member
Never cared for Snake's inclusion in Brawl aside from the codec stuff so I won't shed a tear if he's cut. Sucks for fans of him tho.
I don't really see it as being a big issue, the series itself is completely dead and was never very popular particularly outside of Japan.
Although I'm not going to act like a prick about it if Ness/Lucas are gone like people are doing in this thread about Snake.
Baron von Loathsome
Member
Brawl also credited Shigesato Itoi.
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