SinCityAssassin
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SNES Mini Classic Thread | No preorder or shipping discussion here
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The quest goes on.
RoadHazard
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If this is real-world performance and not some capture issue I'm cancelling my pre-order. Not kidding. At $200* this shit needs to perform flawlessly.
* Yes, that's what it's priced at here in Sweden.
Yeah I bought this for the emulation quality, so if it's not great then I won't kill myself looking for a US one. I'll keep my JP preorder though.
Edit: damn $200. That's what I would pay for a US model at MSRP+tax AND my Amazon JP order with transaction fees and shipping. I don't blame you.
SinCityAssassin
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You know what I'm actually very surprised that DF Retro didn't at least do the same sort of comparison video that Gamexplain is doing. We'd have a definitive answer there.
Yep, that's still a Mario Kart.
Yep, that's still a Mario Kart.
Honestly still can't tell maybe my eyes are dead.
Heavy's Sandvich
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Have 2 pre-ordered. Just need Friday off laaaads.
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
Has there been any word about when their review is?
RoadHazard
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That's including 25% VAT, so I guess the fair comparison against the US price would be $160. So it's really "only" twice as expensive here, yay!
tomwhite2004
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If DF do a comparisson then i imagine it will be after the unit has been released and of a much higher quality in both capture and analysis then gamexplain.
Tribes of Trusty
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What you can soft reset from the controller ?!
Yeah, I played Star Fox 2 and you can feel they wanted to make it even more ambitious than the 1 :
- Character selection with each one their ship
- You can choose an AI controlled buddy of your choice
- Graphics are better
- Frame rate is better too
- The gameplay feels more ambitious with you controlling the ships on the map and intercepting enemy missiles and cruisers. You can choose which planet to free too
But the few minutes I played it felt really empty and like a completely different type of game compared to Star Fox 1 and its linear sections.
Yeah, I played Star Fox 2 and you can feel they wanted to make it even more ambitious than the 1 :
- Character selection with each one their ship
- You can choose an AI controlled buddy of your choice
- Graphics are better
- Frame rate is better too
- The gameplay feels more ambitious with you controlling the ships on the map and intercepting enemy missiles and cruisers. You can choose which planet to free too
But the few minutes I played it felt really empty and like a completely different type of game compared to Star Fox 1 and its linear sections.
I mean, that's hardly any consolation ha. I won't pretend to know anything about the global economy and the reasons for price discrepencies, but that just sucks man.
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
I bought Horizon from them earlier in the year. Tracking info never activated but it showed up on time.
JohnSpartanLee
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SinCityAssassin
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Dark_3nergy
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Target SNES shipped last night for me
JohnSpartanLee
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Indeed, that looks absolutely flawless. Thanks a lot!
@RoadHazard: So no need to cancel your preorder.
RoadHazard
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Typically we pay the USD price x 10 in SEK for consoles and games, or a little bit more, which more or less checks out when you account for VAT. This is an extreme case, and seems to simply be the evil Nordic Nintendo distributor Bergsala lining their pockets. There is no other reasonable explanation.
I still might though, just to not support the ridiculous price hiking going on here in the Nordic countries. I really want this thing, but the pricing here is just fucking insane. Rationally, it's not worth it.
AtomicShroom
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So it seems Nintendo has fucked it up again.
Emulation in Yoshis Island is not faithful to the original hardware:
Touch Fuzzy Get Dizzy SNES classic:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=mWZ_rjgukcc&t=2m54s
Touch Fuzzy Get Dizzy real SNES:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zEHWe6RWAv0&feature=youtu.be&t=1m40s
Notice how parts of the background and foreground completely disappear for a fraction of a second whenever you touch a fuzzy. That didnt happen on original hardware!
Goddammit Nintendo...
Emulation in Yoshis Island is not faithful to the original hardware:
Touch Fuzzy Get Dizzy SNES classic:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=mWZ_rjgukcc&t=2m54s
Touch Fuzzy Get Dizzy real SNES:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zEHWe6RWAv0&feature=youtu.be&t=1m40s
Notice how parts of the background and foreground completely disappear for a fraction of a second whenever you touch a fuzzy. That didnt happen on original hardware!
Goddammit Nintendo...
Panajev2001a
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Enter The 36 Chambers
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Jesus that US console is fucking hideous
My condolences, hope it doesn't turn up smashed to pieces.
Thats annoying! Im away from home until Friday, so Im hoping that I can keep an eye on the tracking until Im back home.
Ha, Im more concerned about whether itll actually appear or not!
tomwhite2004
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Perhaps a cpu limitation?
Enter The 36 Chambers
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Can you stretch the games to fit a widescreen display?
the_milkybar_kid
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Honestly the biggest reason why I wanted this thing
So a fraction of a second is dampening your excitement? The internet, ladies and gentlemen.
What is strange is it still pixelises the ground.
tomwhite2004
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Discussing emulation inaccuracies was always going to be a thing. I understand the Contra 3 bomb effect being changed as an anti epilepsy measure but this is stuff that pc based emulators got right a long time ago.
Yep, its 720p.
the_milkybar_kid
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Yeah but there's discussing inaccuracies and the hyperbolic nonsense here- "NINTENDO FUCKED UP AGAIN". Come on...
Robin64
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Tendosaaaa!
AtomicShroom
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A fraction of a second that happens repeatedly over the course of a short time span.
Its like if your favourite artist came out with a Best Of album and in one of the tracks, instruments cut out for fractions of seconds here and there. How would you feel about that?
Martinski43
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Yep the SNES classic is priced at ~ $190 - $250 depending on the retailer here in Swedenland. It's absolute bonkers, but hey they will still sell out most likely so they just laugh all the way to the bank.
Got an e-mail saying it's been shipped! So I guess I probably have it tomorrow!
Air Strike Patrol is pretty notorious for this, where a shadow drawn under your aircraft is very CPU intense to emulate so most emulators doesn't do it. So many people who only played the game on an emulator have no clue there is supposed to be a shadow there, which also make things easier as an aim for the bombs you're dropping.
Yeah, I think so. To have a proper accurate SNES emulation, you need a relatively large amount of CPU performance. To make it work on weak hardware like this there are bound to be some quirks here and there in games that use special tricks.
Air Strike Patrol is pretty notorious for this, where a shadow drawn under your aircraft is very CPU intense to emulate so most emulators doesn't do it. So many people who only played the game on an emulator have no clue there is supposed to be a shadow there, which also make things easier as an aim for the bombs you're dropping.
SinCityAssassin
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AuthenticM
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Canadian here
I bought the European version. What's this about the AC adapter? I thought this thing was powered through USB. Do I need a fucking european power thing that doesn't work here in North America?
I bought the European version. What's this about the AC adapter? I thought this thing was powered through USB. Do I need a fucking european power thing that doesn't work here in North America?
ScaryShark
Banned
Yep, it's one thing I'm glad to be willfully ignorant on.
This is clearly the SNES mini activating it SUPA-FX chip for wavy background effects goodness, and yes it sticks out like a sore thumb. Ouch
Andyliini
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European release just doesn't come with USB-adapter. You do no need one, just plug the power cord into your TV's USB-port, and you're good to go.
I mean, Yoshi's Island is the single game that made me REALLY want this device because it's never been re-released in it's original form. Given how perfect the emulation on the NES is, I was hoping for the same on the SNES classic. Considering my myriad options to play this on my PC/retropie, it actually does damper my excitement that the emulation quality will not be any better than what I'm used to from other sources.
I am truly sorry that this hot take is so offensive to you lol.
sixteen-bit
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Subbed. Can't wait to play SF2 finally.
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