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Someone built a fully functional 1 KB Hard Drive... in Minecraft
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SloaneRisette
Member
Ok, let's get working on that 1 TB hard drive in Minecraft
That looks like a theme park from hell.
Take a class in digital design fundamentals. Then waste a summer trying to implement that shit in Minecraft. It's ridiculously fun and frustrating.
My 1st thought as well. Awesome.
Mr. Poolman
Member
Minecraft community always finds a way to impress me even more.
Or, for a better answer:
This is a physical half-adder built out of wood. It is a large, physical representation of the boolean logic of the following circuit:
Think of it sort of like a very large clockwork mechanism that moves physical objects around instead of electricity.
What they do when they build ICs like this in minecraft is recreate the physical model using minecraft blocks.
Kensairabbit37
Banned
I don't get why this is blowing up so much. This is not a hard drive; it's just basic non-volatile memory. People have built for more interesting and complex things in Minecraft, and yet, this is what reaches the front page of Reddit.
LyleLanley
Banned
Personally I can't wait until someone runs Minecraft in Minecraft.
Insane!
Still way too complicated for my simple mind.
Handy Fake
Member
Could theoretically store a picture of Natalie Portman's nipple on that. I'm in.
Red stone as a logic gate. Similar to how it has worked in the minecraft CPUs that have been created up until now. Now they've figured out how read and write data to a hard drive instead of just for calculations. Slow as hell but still impressive.
the most complex machinery becomes, the more abstract it becomes, the more difficult it is to appreciate.
The skills you need to recognize which physical ICs are more impressive than other physical ICs are the same skills you need to build something like this in the first place. Since most people lack those skills, they default to the practical application - they can conceptualize a non-volatile memory (as a harddrive) but most have no idea what an ALU is.
I'd say the Minecraft versions are more analogous to using relays or vacuum tubes, since they rely on Redstone "circuits" whose simulated behavior is somewhere between an electrical wire and a cam or drive shaft.
Or, for a better answer:
This is a physical half-adder built out of wood. It is a large, physical representation of the boolean logic of the following circuit:
Think of it sort of like a very large clockwork mechanism that moves physical objects around instead of electricity.
What they do when they build ICs like this in minecraft is recreate the physical model using minecraft blocks.
Sort of. Minecraft does have a built-in concept of current flow, which makes these things a bit easier.
When I got way into this stuff in Minecraft, I was using a mod that simplified each logic gate into a single block. At that point, it's basically like designing in a 3D PSpice (although a lot buggier).
Dreams-Visions
Member
wowwwwwwww.
Well of course those operate physically moving objects as well
It's really all the same principle. As someone else phrased it, "physical logic gates."
Now we're getting abstract, but I'd consider "current flow" to be physically moving things around. Virtually, at least, in minecraft. LOL if that makes sense.
Wind's Howling
Member
Give this guy a high quality job if he can create something like this.
That is just.. Amazing. I hope such a talent does not go to waste.
That is just.. Amazing. I hope such a talent does not go to waste.
Probably a group of college students working on this as either a part of a project or something they wanted to set out to create based on previous work done in Minecraft already.
The skill to build this isn't really something that would demand high quality talent. This is just a novel implementation of an already well understood design.
Kensairabbit37
Banned
Thank you for this reply. For whatever reason it calmed my nerves that were struck. I need to cut back on the salt.
sixteen-bit
Member
Cool beans.
eot
Banned
Yeah, Redstone logic circuits are designed kind of like real electric circuits if the electricity was "slow," could only have a single value of current, and stopped existing after traveling an arbitrary distance. I guess that makes them a bit more like hydraulics in a certain sense.
A CPU+OS+ some games built in Minecraft
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJrDbBK7nRk
One day we will see Minecraft built in Minecraft.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJrDbBK7nRk
One day we will see Minecraft built in Minecraft.
Aaron Strife
Banned
Someone already has built Minecraft inside of Minecraft
It's called real life and we're in the game
It's called real life and we're in the game
I remember in highschool AP Physics 2, way way back, we made physical logic gates as a class project. All these designs need something to "go" you know, to drive the thing. We used gravity as ours, which pulled marbles down our gates.
In retrospect, that class really prepared me for my further college courses conceptually.
lowhighkang_LHK
Member
By the gods of Olympus!!
Ha, not while the game still runs on Java. Putting simulated computers inside of a video a game running in a virtual machine makes for some pretty gnarly performance overhead.
Wind's Howling
Member
Lol at the people here who say.
"It is not that impressive"
And then never create something that is equally as impressive.
Some people just always like to shit on other people's creativity.
"It is not that impressive"
And then never create something that is equally as impressive.
Some people just always like to shit on other people's creativity.
Minecraft builders have already built implimentations of half-adders, adders, and ALUs. They've already built turing-complete machines in Minecraft.
This has already been accomplished, long ago, save the "better graphics" part.
PetriP-TNT
Member
Hahaha, the zoomed out pic does look like Sim City 2000
There isn't a single person in this topic who has called this unimpressive.
They're also profoundly missing the point, because the impressiveness comes from the game's various mechanisms allowing the player to simulate real life devices in such a novel way.