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Sony announces PS4 Pro, $399, November 10th
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McMoneyman
Member
So if I'm looking at a 4KTV for a potential PS4Pro purchase. Is it advisable to get one with HDR, would it be unnecessary to just get one with 4K. Because I can get a Sony 55" with 4K, no HDR for a pretty good price right now.
HDR is worth it. try and get a set with HDR
Yes, for the slim, it was relocated to the back, where you can pop out a panel
For the Pro, it seems to be in the same location
GravityInsanity
Member
I'm sure this has been ask already but do I need a 4K TV for the PlayStation 4 Pro?
fluffydelusions
Member
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Not necessarily no. You'll get benefits on your 1080 tv as well.
Hope I'm right someone else clarify better
I can't help but chuckle and facepalm when I see so many people talking up HDR as if it's the second coming of Christ. We've been using this shit since 2005. I remember playing a Half-Life 2 tech demo called "Lost Coast" that demonstrated this very thing. To put things into perspective...
...lmao
Ironically that pic is a good example of where an HDR output would help.
The sky in that image is heavily overexposed. It's completely white over a large portion of the image. The game still has detail there, it's just too bright to be displayed.
In order to see the detail in the sky and sun you'd have to lower the exposure so much then the rest of the image would become too dark to see properly.
However a good HDR tv would let you see the clouds fully in all their detail and brightness, it would let you see the shape and brightness of the sun behind those clouds. It would no longer be a solid white mess.
You absolutely cannot appreciate good HDR on an SDR display.
It's like comparing a framed photo to a window.
The photo can not be brighter than the wall it hangs on.
GravityInsanity
Member
Ok, that's good. Might have to pre-order then because that was holding me back from purchase.
Oh cool! Thanks!
potatohead
Member
I can't help but chuckle and facepalm when I see so many people talking up HDR as if it's the second coming of Christ. We've been using this shit since 2005. I remember playing a Half-Life 2 tech demo called "Lost Coast" that demonstrated this very thing. To put things into perspective...
...lmao
I don't think you really understand what HDR means for colour output on new monitors and televisions.
Yep. This is the answer.
MadNinjaZero
Member
Is there info on whether or not they improved the wireless capabilities? It would be great if it could see my 5GHz wi-fi.
fluffydelusions
Member
Pretty sure the new slim and pro have a new wifi chip? At least I thought I read that here the other day
EASTC0AST_GH05T
Member
Don't want to add to the PS4 Pro threads so will aks my question here. If you was trading in a OG PS4 and have fiber optics download speeds with no caps and probly about 2 games downloaded would you just wipe your old PS4 clean and trade it in? or transfer all your data from the old to the new one?
That image is from Valves presentation, possibly quite different from the checker rendering used in games.
That works in quads 2x2 pixels, not pixel sized checkerbox.
Also the reconstruction was really really simple for VR. (blur color values from neighboring pixels,)
More complex version was used in PsVR demos in which temporal reprojection was used to fill the holes and had more gradual quad rejection toward the edge of the screen.
1080p remote play? So even though I'm wired, the OG PS4 is limited to 720p right?
Hmm that makes pro a little more tempting even without a 4K TV
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
So is HDr a big factor or can I settle for a simple 4k tv. I'm seeing some pretty affordable 4k TVs but I don't see HDr ones. Any recommendations
Yeah.
This is all the new stuff
- HDR
- 4k support for games *upscale and native*
- All games will run in 1080p resolution, and some will even run in a higher or more stable framerate
- 1080p60 RemotePlay/SharePlay
- Will support 1080p video at 60 frames per second for broadcasting
- 4K screenshots
- Usb port on the back
- Netflix 4k support
- Enhanced support for PSVR
- 5GHz Wi-Fi. support
Really hope it allows me to stream the 4k Netflix even on 1080p TV.
Edit:Oh my bad dont know about monitors
GAFmeansLIFE
Member
Back up the old console to a hard drive or flash drive, and restore to the new. With only 2 games it's not a big deal to re-download, but if your saves are not in the cloud you will want to back that stuff up anyways (and PT if you have that).
After you do your backup be sure to deactivate your console as primary, and format before trading in.
BladeoftheImmortal
Member
With ps4pro, I'm expecting no more 900P for battlefield ports.
They will just switch to 720p
Bl@de
Member
As far as I know 1080p is mandatory on PS4 Pro. Every game under 1080p on PS4 has to be rendered at 1080p (on the Pro). It's in the Sony blog.
three_muffins
Member
Is the ps4 pro still worth it if I only use a full hd 42" tv?
I really like the idea of a more powerful ps4, but if the only perks are 4K and HDR (which I can't use with my tv) it would not make much sense to buy one, does it?
I really like the idea of a more powerful ps4, but if the only perks are 4K and HDR (which I can't use with my tv) it would not make much sense to buy one, does it?
I'm going to spin-off the "is this worth it" question a different way to help me decide.
I don't currently have a 4K TV but understand there are still graphical benefits to the Pro, but how big are they really going to be?
For example, I own both a PS4 and XB1 currently, while I'm actually playing a game it's rare if at all I can tell a difference in the graphics between the two consoles when objectively by DF there are. But in my experiences it's not enough for me to tell a difference when I'm actually playing the games.
Will this be a similar situation in the differences between my OG PS4 and the Pro? If I stare at a screenshot or have DF tell me there are differences in quality I can see it, but it's so small that while I'm actually playing I don't notice?
Thanks in advance for replies
I don't currently have a 4K TV but understand there are still graphical benefits to the Pro, but how big are they really going to be?
For example, I own both a PS4 and XB1 currently, while I'm actually playing a game it's rare if at all I can tell a difference in the graphics between the two consoles when objectively by DF there are. But in my experiences it's not enough for me to tell a difference when I'm actually playing the games.
Will this be a similar situation in the differences between my OG PS4 and the Pro? If I stare at a screenshot or have DF tell me there are differences in quality I can see it, but it's so small that while I'm actually playing I don't notice?
Thanks in advance for replies
ChasingComets
Member
I'm guessing it won't because the PS4 will only output at the maximum resolution of your TV.
Kudo
Member
Have they announced these anywhere?
New revision of the controller popped up on sale in Japan, and in delicious looking red. Now the backside of the controller is completely red, I hope they do this for blue one too.
Might grab one in future and sell off one of my OG black controller.
justsomeguy
Member
Wow - looks gorgeous
TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
Member
I hope we get a Pro bundle for IW/COD 4 remaster like what the slim's getting, be all over that.
From what I looked good HDR is expensive as fuck at least to me.
The problem here is that developers may choose not to do anything with 1080p mode same goes for Sony first party games. Sony was selling it as a 4K option mostly and I feel like that's where the focus is going. How would displaying 4K mode look on 1080p TV?
Shin-Ra
Junior Member
The red DS4 revision looks nice.
edit: both the slim and Pro have 802.11ac WiFi now.
PS4 Pro
edit: both the slim and Pro have 802.11ac WiFi now.
I think you'll have to do a backup and restore with an external enclosure.
This underplays the 4K game support a little - anything from higher res upscale to 4K native is supported. There isn't a singular approach to it across all games (i.e. 'upscale').
xamidoxhua
Member
So from what (little) I've read its upscaling not outputting native 4K. So what's the difference between this and the upscaling the TV set already does? Real question.
yes, from power perspective, PS4 is 30% more powerful than XB1... On the other hand, PS4 Pro is almost 3x more powerful than XB1.
You will see differences for sure. In most games it will be minimum of much better anti-aliasing which was one of the last thing left... some games will also have updated textures too and other parts of the equation.
Various Artists
Banned
It does not.
you on a wind up?
Vincent4756
Member
Hey did they get rid of the PS camera port and replaced it with the regular USB port?