I hope something like this will be a thing again
Well, I didn't say consoles will be a sure hit in that market. Nor I care about it, frankly.India, population of 1.2+ billion. BRIC. Growth economy. No console ban unlike China. English is widely spoken as a language. Low language barrier to games availability.
How does the most popular console in the world fare there after 10+ years in the market?
I'm interested in what this can lead to, there's a lot of money to be made on gaming in China. Perhaps in 10 - 20 years time the Chinese could be making their own mainstream console?
Sony will have a harder time than Microsoft, probably because of the Japan-China relations.
The subsidiaries' share value will rise and fall, and smart investors could amass fabulous wealth during this period, that's all.
Meanwhile hundreds of Chinese companies are making thousands of Android Set-Top Boxes in China, and most of them were build with controller support, it's basically like OUYA except that it begins about one or two years before OUYA's kickstarter.
And these Set-Top Boxes already became the "mainstream console" in China, you won't be surprised many kids and their parents are content with playing phone games on their TV, because they are already satisfied with many cheap and free phone games.
Sony should release a few Chinese f2p MMO's for tthe Ps4 and the country will be theirs.
You still need Gold to play f2p games on the X1
They have some, Warframe even come with Chinese localize. Planetside 2 is coming, but Chinese PC version of the game is pretty dead there.
FF14 Chinese PC version is coming to China, don't know they will make a PS4 version for that.
They need to make a F2P Moba console game.
India, population of 1.2+ billion. BRIC. Growth economy. No console ban unlike China. English is widely spoken as a language. Low language barrier to games availability.
How does the most popular console in the world fare there after 10+ years in the market?
Seriously i doubt "F2P strategy" will work,because chinese gamers mostly will stay with PC since most of F2P game in china doesn't come with high spec requirement
So for real,i don't think both MS&Sony will expect high for Chinese market
I am more interested in seeing what kind of developing games will come from.China.
Some examples for your reference.
QQ Speed:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtVedESHrVQ
御龙在天
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtOLeQN3yy8
斗战神:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuJwKA0qsdg
Some examples of games built in the Chinese development scene...
speed.qq.com/‎
jx3.xoyo.com/‎
xy2.163.com/‎
http://games.sina.com.cn/tl/index.shtml
http://xy2.163.com/2007/xy3/
http://www.xishanju.com/
http://www.pcgames.com.cn/
I don't think China and India are directly comparable. China is still a lot richer and the middle class is bigger, for instance. However, I do agree that it's very likely that consoles won't be that much more popular in China than they've been in India, atleast not in a short-term. They just don't give a shit about consoles.
1) Sony, in 2011, started a software development company in China to develop homegrown PS3 software for the China market.http://static.sse.com.cn/disclosure/listedinfo/announcement/c/2014-05-25/600832_20140526_1.pdf
Google translate(i'm lazy,sorry)
Well just like what i thought,they team up with Shanghai Oriental Pearl.
Though the announcement just said "Playstation",but pretty sure it will be PS4,and maybe PSV
I guess the release date won't be later than early next year
After MS and Sony,let's see when will Nintendo move
Sony will have a harder time than Microsoft, probably because of the Japan-China relations.
I haven't been in China for a long time but I remember that years ago I was in a subway and EVERY DAMN KID had a PSP. In my city, every electronic store had NDS,PSP,PS3,WII. (and actually I've never seen an Xbox)
Good. China is a very large untapped market.
Untapped is not accurate to describe China game market.
I'm Chinese and this statement is so wrong. Everytime there is a chinese related topic I read comments like these and I think about how much you people are wrong
I haven't been in China for a long time but I remember that years ago I was in a subway and EVERY DAMN KID had a PSP. In my city, every electronic store had NDS,PSP,PS3,WII. (and actually I've never seen an Xbox)
Even my parents who don't know anything about electronics know the Playstation brand and even though they dislike Japan, every electronic thing in our house and in my grandparents house is japanese.
Even my grandfather who fought in World War II doesn't give a damn
It's untapped by consoles is what I meant.
It's entertaining to read people knowing nothing about China to talk Chinese market with confidence. It's hard to argue though, since it's what western media tell people.To the people who are saying the China - Japan relationship is so bad that Japanese companies have a problem to sell their products in China, I have a simple question: Are you Chinese? Do you live in China?
I'm Chinese and I can assure you that the dispute between China and Japan is completely overblown by the media. China is in fact one of the few countries where people still think Sony's TVs are some of the best, not counting the people who play with their PSPs (I've seen more people in China with PSPs than in Italy, where I live).
Yes, in some rural areas you will probably find hardcore nationalists who hate Japan, but the middle class and the people who have money don't care about politics, they just want to live a peaceful life, buy what they like and so on, which is not different than any other part of the world.
1) Sony, in 2011, started a software development company in China to develop homegrown PS3 software for the China market.
2) The Shanghai market is also home to the state sponsored/mandated next generation Cable TV. Microsoft already announced a similar arrangement for the XB1 with BestTV for Shanhai but in that case, BestTV is a IPTV company.
3) The PS3 is being refreshed this year and the registered in Indonesia model number has the second digit increasing by 2 which indicates two major hardware changes in the refresh likely cell to 22nm and something(s) else.
4) To succeed in the Shanghai market the game console also needs to be a Next generation Cable TV STB.
Registering the PS3 in Indonesia first might mean it's targeted at the Asia market first.
Sony will have a harder time than Microsoft, probably because of the Japan-China relations.
Maybe... Maybe not
The news here in Australia last week said the the Chinese Government has banned the use of Windows 8 on all governement computers.
Re: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/latest/china-bans-windows-8/story-e6frg90f-1226928220284
So hard to say who has the worse relationship atm.
Sony will have a harder time than Microsoft, probably because of the Japan-China relations.
Untapped by consoles?
More like ignored by gamers.
My prediction?
Less than a million consoles sold in the first two year.
For both Sony/MS. Combined.
Not really.
There's a lot of consoles being sold there. The problem is they'll only buy one once they know the games can be pirated.
How Sony will solve this is the problem they need to look at. Offer something like steam sales and it may gather interest.
P.S. I'm Chinese.
Why you guys always understanding these nonsense in such awkward way?
"Oh Chinese Communists stop buying our Win 8, they must be hostile to us again!"
SERIOUSLY? Is this how human society working in your world view? People consider buying or not buying any product should consult their supervisors in government "The native country of this console/game is our friend or not" first?
Gosh...
Should I open a thread to talk about the market in China?
Jan 2011 article....Wow this is the first time I know NeoGAF have so many Chinese members.
Wait what? Where do you get the information about the first one? After PS2 failed in China Sony have to abandon the mainland market until today. For what purpose they build "homegrown PS3 software for the China market" when there's no PS3 hardware officially happened here?
They have 2 years left of the 5 year projection.http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2011-01-14-sony-targeting-chinese-mainland said:Sony Computer Entertainment's Asian wing has confirmed plans to enter and invest in the Chinese market.
The firm will embark on training and R&D programmes in the Guangdong province, reports China Daily, ultimately leading to homegrown game development projects.
Sony is apparently seeking to launch PlayStation hardware in China, a country whose government is notoriously resistant to consoles. Hardware-makers have also been traditionally deterred by China's spectacularly high piracy rates.
While there is no timetable for a Chinese launch, projections for the planned new PlayStation business (with the contribution of other developers) have it turning over around $15 billion within the next five years.
Jan 2011 article....
Sony will have a harder time than Microsoft, probably because of the Japan-China relations.
Chinese not buying anything American confirmed.
I hope something like this will happen again
It would be very welcome if you also said what that is you want to happen again.
Sachou Eiyuden : The Eagle Shooting Heroes.
A PSOne RPG, adapting the classic novel by renowned wuxia author Jin Yong, "The Legend of Condor Heroes", published and developed by SCEI back in the day, catered to the Chinese/Taiwanese market.
They honestly don't care when it comes to consumer products. If anything, the Chinese like to buy high quality brand name products; something not really associated with the Microsoft brand.Sony will have a harder time than Microsoft, probably because of the Japan-China relations.