Riedinizzo
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TBH nothing for me, but its nice to see the variety of games I'll get to try as ps+ freevbies
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Sony to have around 70 games at their E3 booth
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sankt-Antonio
:^)--?-<
While i am not AS informed about indie games AS most of gaf, i See the uniqueness in visuals but have yet to See some great gameplay features that are not just a gimmick (oktodad) or already done a hundred times over (2d jump n run, sidescroller adventure). While I am sure there are plenty, it gets hard to find them when you have 70 of them thrown in your face.
I am not a defacto AAA fan, never bougth any cod, asscreed, battlefield etc. but i Miss the ps2 era AA games that are simply more ambitious then these indie games that I feel are more at home on my iPad.
Would much prefer it if only the top of the crop would find its way on consoles, as this would allow them to be recognised by ME.
Kssio_Aug
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Well, I dont know what kind of ambitious features youre looking for, but check out some indie games as: Resogun, Dont Starve, Stick it to the Man and Max: The Curse of Brotherhood, aswell as Braid, FEZ and Limbo. And also check out about RIME, Galak-Z and The Witness!
All of those games are somewhat very original, and I would definitely call all of them ambitious. AND, theyre definitely games! And all of those that I said (except for those that still are not released), are also definitely better then many "big-budget" games out there from my point of view.
FiveMinuteHero
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Looks like the list of 'free' games PSN users will get for the next couple of years.
Or else games I could play on my 4 year old PC.
Or else games I could play on my 4 year old PC.
El-Pistolero
Member
Just saw Fluster Cluck...
What are you trying to say?
I didn't realize you could play Guilty Gear Xrd on your 4 year old PC.
Kssio_Aug
Member
Ok.. and? I really dont see your point here.
DangerMouse
Member
my god this is impressive. i wish i could go to E3
Can't wait for a whole bunch these. Also it's great that it seems like Galak-Z, Secret Ponchos, and Cactus (and hopefully newer announcements like Hyper Light Drifter) are finally getting closer. That old livestream made me feel like Galak-Z was closer, so now I can't wait lol.
Also, can't freaking wait for Guilty Gear Xrd in the fall, so gorgeous.
You can hold it.
FiveMinuteHero
Member
Take away one or two?
As for the other bit, I didn't buy a PS4 to buy PC indy game ports.
GarciaHotspur
Member
So why buy it in the first year ?
Then don't buy them? You have a functional brain, right?
I'm asking a simple question. If your feelings are hurt I can't help you.
I have no sympathy for the lazy people who don't do research before buying a product.
FiveMinuteHero
Member
Of course I don't buy them. That doesn't leave much else though. Also, way to go resorting to personal insults.
FiveMinuteHero
Member
Yes I can see your question is pretty simple. Just like the rest.
Ok, I will make sure my next console isn't a Steam box. Cheers.
sankt-Antonio
:^)--?-<
Resogun is considered indie?
FiveMinuteHero
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I don't regard it as indy, but it seems for some non-AA/AAA games and non-disc releases = Indy.
Housemarque are an independent studio. Although it was published by Sony, and therefore maybe funded - so I don't know how people want to fit it into the definition.
HORRORSHØW
Member
housemarque is an independent studio.
kinoki
Illness is the doctor to whom we pay most heed; to kindness, to knowledge, we make promise only; pain we obey.
There are a lot of games coming out. How am I going to afford this? There's even a lot of games on that list I don't remember having been announced. It's just insane. 2015 is going to be fucking amazing for gamers.
FiveMinuteHero
Member
Grimløck;115118173 said:
So if a game, say, Wonderful 101, is made by independent studio (Platinum) and is published by someone else (Nintendo), it means the game is an Indy?
Nightengale
Member
Indie is such a misappropriated term nowadays.
Just call them smaller-scope digital titles if you really want to put a label to them.
Didn't you know, anything that cost less than 10 million dollars to make is not a real game. /s
Just call them smaller-scope digital titles if you really want to put a label to them.
Didn't you know, anything that cost less than 10 million dollars to make is not a real game. /s
You've hit upon the debate on what 'indie' even means. Valve, for example, is an independent game studio that funds their own games and publishes their own games, using EA as a distributor only for their physical copies of games.
In many regards, Valve fit the criteria for what should be considered an independent game developer. But people don't call them 'indie' - people have this really specific idea on what an 'indie' developer and an indie game is - but that specific idea varies person to person.
HORRORSHØW
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the taxonomy and distinction of these games get blurred when independent studios are funded for their projects by publishers. i would consider it an indie game insofar that it's made by an independent studio. is a kickstarted indie game any less an indie game?
Nightengale
Member
Yup.
Indie can mean the most literal sense of independently published/developed game like Half Life 2 or it could also be a derogatory term used to sarcastically deem them less than games to 2 different people.
bigboss370
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would be cool if someone could make a thread, but GT's got a brand new interview with jonathan blow on The Witness.
He talks about what makes a good puzzle, and what makes a bad puzzle. Talks about structure of the game, speedruns, where they're at in development, etc.
http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/3bp86t/the-witness-e3-2014---non--hostile-witness-interview
over 600 puzzles was something that was mentioned
He talks about what makes a good puzzle, and what makes a bad puzzle. Talks about structure of the game, speedruns, where they're at in development, etc.
http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/3bp86t/the-witness-e3-2014---non--hostile-witness-interview
over 600 puzzles was something that was mentioned
FiveMinuteHero
Member
I think for many people indy games are (not that I agree):
- games released on digital platform only
- games made by companies that are never heard of (that is, not Konami, Capcom etc.) and do not cost full price
- "free" PS+ games
- "quick PC" ports
I think (and a personal opinion, not a dogma) that the PS4 has so many Indy games rests on two things:
1. AA/AAA games are very expensive to make so the number of these is diminishing all the time (due to the risks involved), so Sony encourage Indy games to 'fill in the gaps'
2. The fact that the PS4 runs on an x86 CPU it makes it "easy" to port.
Feel free to debunk
- games released on digital platform only
- games made by companies that are never heard of (that is, not Konami, Capcom etc.) and do not cost full price
- "free" PS+ games
- "quick PC" ports
I think (and a personal opinion, not a dogma) that the PS4 has so many Indy games rests on two things:
1. AA/AAA games are very expensive to make so the number of these is diminishing all the time (due to the risks involved), so Sony encourage Indy games to 'fill in the gaps'
2. The fact that the PS4 runs on an x86 CPU it makes it "easy" to port.
Feel free to debunk
want that release date most atm along with the witness... Hopefully E3 gives us both of the dates.
Triggerhappytel
Member
Damn, I just realised that Rime, Everybody's Gone to the Rapture and Shadow of the Beast aren't on there. I had expected they'd be 2015 releases, but I hope we get to see more of them soon. Would be great if they're at the show proper.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
Pretty good if most are new unreleased games.
They seem to be?
They seem to be?
SPACECADET
Member
destiny beta has to be coming up so soon. and my dreams of playing isaac rebirth will be fulfilled in anywhere from 2 to 6 months! i'm so excited for e3.
Nightengale
Member
We'll probably see an update on that at Gamescom, given that's where they were first unveiled.
The image that comes to my mind when thinking of an 'indie developer' is a hipster with a scarf, carrying around a MacBook Pro and programming a "retro" pixel platformer with bigger pixels than an Atari 2600 game, soundtrack courtesy of the as3sfxr sound generator.
Problem is, 'indie' has become inseparable from music in image, so a lot of the ideas about people who listen to obscure music and frequent the local coffee shop bleed over into games.
Triggerhappytel
Member
I hope so, although given how impressive the first two look I think they'd be good games to show off at E3 (obviously no footage yet for SotB).
yurinka
Member
I'm interested in a lot of these games. And I want to see more of Rime, Everybody's Gone to the Rapture and Shadow of the Beast, that I think they aren't there because they are being saved for Gamescom.
I'd love to see Uncharted PS4, TLG and Project Beast in the stage, gameas that if announced to be released soon may be also to play there. If in addition to them also Parappa Vita, Syphon Filter PS4, and Agent are announced then such amount of megatons would created a black hole there that would end E3 forever.
I'd love to see Uncharted PS4, TLG and Project Beast in the stage, gameas that if announced to be released soon may be also to play there. If in addition to them also Parappa Vita, Syphon Filter PS4, and Agent are announced then such amount of megatons would created a black hole there that would end E3 forever.
Housemarque is an Finnish indie 3rd party dev studio. But Resogun is an IP published and owned by Sony Computer Entertainment, who funded the game. Like Journey and Rime.
FiveMinuteHero
Member
"If this poster agrees with you, you're probably doing something very wrong."
Sums it up.
yurinka
Member
Already got PixelJunk Shooter Ultimate thanks to PSN.
I'll buy unless abysmal Metacritic:
Aaru’s Awakening, Axiom Verge, The Binding of Issac: Rebirth, Destiny, Driveclub, EarthNight, Freedom Wars, Guilty Gear Xrd, Hohokum, Hotline Miami 2, Hyper Light Drifter, Jamestown Plus, Legend of Raven, Metrico,N++,Nidhogg, Night in the Woods,Nuclear Throne,Oddworld: New ‘n’ Tasty, Planetside 2, Road Not Taken, Shadow Warrior, Starwhal, The Crew, The Order: 1886, The Swapper, To Leave, Valiant Hearts, Velocity 2X
I'm interested but not sold, want to see more:
Apotheon, Chasm, Galak-Z, Helldivers, Home, Killzone DLC, MechRunner, Murasaki Baby, One Way Trip, Project CARS, Race the sun, Rogue Legacy, Secret Ponchos, Source, Super Exploding Zoo, Switch Galaxy Ultra, Teslagrad
If not crossbuy, I'll buy their Vita version if available.
The other are ports/DLC/tweaked editions/remakes/available in 'early access' or prototype stage. But the ones available somewhere else are basically from PC, so they are new for consoles or portable devices.
I'll buy unless abysmal Metacritic:
Aaru’s Awakening, Axiom Verge, The Binding of Issac: Rebirth, Destiny, Driveclub, EarthNight, Freedom Wars, Guilty Gear Xrd, Hohokum, Hotline Miami 2, Hyper Light Drifter, Jamestown Plus, Legend of Raven, Metrico,N++,Nidhogg, Night in the Woods,Nuclear Throne,Oddworld: New ‘n’ Tasty, Planetside 2, Road Not Taken, Shadow Warrior, Starwhal, The Crew, The Order: 1886, The Swapper, To Leave, Valiant Hearts, Velocity 2X
I'm interested but not sold, want to see more:
Apotheon, Chasm, Galak-Z, Helldivers, Home, Killzone DLC, MechRunner, Murasaki Baby, One Way Trip, Project CARS, Race the sun, Rogue Legacy, Secret Ponchos, Source, Super Exploding Zoo, Switch Galaxy Ultra, Teslagrad
If not crossbuy, I'll buy their Vita version if available.
Aprox. 2 thirds are new unreleased games.
The other are ports/DLC/tweaked editions/remakes/available in 'early access' or prototype stage. But the ones available somewhere else are basically from PC, so they are new for consoles or portable devices.
Ingueferroque
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Kssio_Aug
Member
I think thats just your definition of indie. I already got many big-budget games on PS3 for free on PS Plus such as Battlefield 3, inFamous or Uncharted. PS4 is a new console and of course they will not give their biggest games for free right now, and you can bet that Live With Gold wont either!
So its being really hard to understand whats your point with that! Because even if some of those games come out on PS Plus and / or are released on PC theyre still games!
Sony is not giving up their biggest productions for indie development, so...
I really am wondering what the ps3 and 360 were like. Were there some deluge of high quality AAA exclusives raining down from the sky within the first year? Did we get something akin to infamous and drive club within the first year on the ps3? I think people need to get some perspective with this.
FiveMinuteHero
Member
It is not my definition of Indy. For me Indy is a game that had been developed with the dev team's own money/kickstarter and then published/made available through their own website or via Greenlight, Gog, etc. And I agree these are still games.
Bolts-n-Rays1109
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Look at all of those indie games that I'll get for free on PS+ at some point.
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