Ingueferroque
Banned
A game like La Mulana should not have to go through Greenlight, this makes me lose a lot of faith in Valve.
A game like La Mulana should not have to go through Greenlight, this makes me lose a lot of faith in Valve.
I would suggest that there are already games that barely sell on Steam -- if they're decent quality, and no one downloads them, any negative affect on Valve should be super minimal.I don't know.
Greenlight seems more fair than the alternative system.
If people don't care enough to vote your game, well, it doesn't mean that is a bad game, but is not a game people want to buy.
Seems fair to me. Steam is a shop, not a museum of videogames.
Miasmata is indeed janky. I don't suggest getting it unless you're okay with iffy graphics and awkward controls, like in Penumbra or DayZ but perhaps moreso. I wrote some more detailed early impressions in the Steam thread:According to community hub Miasmata seems to be a divisive game in the need of patches and MinerWars has always-online DRM + it remains the broken beta mess.
Check out community hub before buying new shit. The way it meant to be.
It should make you lose faith in the community and the developers for completely failing to get an Internet hype train rolling.A game like La Mulana should not have to go through Greenlight, this makes me lose a lot of faith in Valve.
I don't know.
Greenlight seems more fair than the alternative system.
If people don't care enough to vote your game, well, it doesn't mean that is a bad game, but is not a game people want to buy.
Seems fair to me. Steam is a shop, not a museum of videogames.
Since I think one of the developers posts in this very thread, and I think some of the community who want the game read this very thread, do you have any suggestions for both of them as to how they can increase the votes for the game?It should make you lose faith in the community and the developers for completely failing to get an Internet hype train rolling.
They may not be done. This may be due to two things that I think Steam could improve:Have the first ten games even been uploaded on Steam? Kind of amusing that Steam has its own massive backlog.
Get Totalshitbiscuit to do a video on it, Giant bomb to do a quicklook and RPS to take a look. Include links to a demo with each impression.Since I think one of the developers posts in this very thread, and I think some of the community who want the game read this very thread, do you have any suggestions for both of them as to how they can increase the votes for the game?
Why do you describe TotalBiscuit that way? What's wrong with his videos?Get Totalshitbiscuit to do a video on it, Giant bomb to do a quicklook and RPS to take a look. Include links to a demo with each impression.
You know, market yourself to communities that buy indie games?
Hello all, just a quick update for you-
Beta continues, and we're real busy responding to suggestions and bugs from our dedicated players. We've already revised and added several big features, and we're trying to provide players with a meaty update patch each week. A special thanks to all beta testers who've helped spread the good word here on Steam. It means a lot!
We're resting at #11 in the greenlight top 100 - your continued support see us reach our goal. We'll be extending our closed beta through December, in the lead up to a January release of our first content pack. Sign-up for news at angry-red.com to be included in future beta invite waves. We'll be trying to make it available both via downloadable client, and browser for those inclined either way.
Those all predate Greenlight, so they probably don't have links to the Greenlight page in them. (Personally I avoid any kind of podcast -- two hours wasted listening to drivel when I can get the same information in print in half a minute)Why do you describe TotalBiscuit that way? What's wrong with his videos?
You mention GiantBomb, and they have done a quick look on La Mulana: http://www.giantbomb.com/quick-look-la-mulana/17-6399/
You mention RPS, and they have an article about it: http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/07/16/it-belongs-on-a-pc-la-mulana-remake/
And the demo?Why do you describe TotalBiscuit that way? What's wrong with his videos?
You mention GiantBomb, and they have done a quick look on La Mulana: http://www.giantbomb.com/quick-look-la-mulana/17-6399/
You mention RPS, and they have an article about it: http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/07/16/it-belongs-on-a-pc-la-mulana-remake/
Those articles were presumably before Greenlight, however. So it might require asking GiantBomb and RPS to do articles again now that the game is in Greenlight.
You're right. I edited my post to reflect that. Also I don't know if TotalBiscuit has done anything on La Mulana specifically. I don't know Stallion's problem with him either -- did he do something to upset viewers?Those all predate Greenlight, so they probably don't have links to the Greenlight page in them. (Personally I avoid any kind of podcast -- two hours wasted listening to drivel when I can get the same information in print in half a minute)
This is a good suggestion, and hopefully the devs and posters advocating it will take it.And the demo?
Have the first ten games even been uploaded on Steam? Kind of amusing that Steam has its own massive backlog.
Figuring out why someone would think he is a shitbiscuit isn't exactly rocket science. Just watch any video of his that has a blatant agenda.You're right. I edited my post to reflect that. Also I don't know if TotalBiscuit has done anything on La Mulana specifically. I don't know Stallion's problem with him either -- did he do something to upset viewers.
Miasmata is indeed janky. I don't suggest getting it unless you're okay with iffy graphics and awkward controls, like in Penumbra or DayZ but perhaps moreso. I wrote some more detailed early impressions in the Steam thread:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=44869554&postcount=593
I don't know.
Greenlight seems more fair than the alternative system.
If people don't care enough to vote your game, well, it doesn't mean that is a bad game, but is not a game people want to buy.
Seems fair to me. Steam is a shop, not a museum of videogames.
By the time La-Mulana is greenlit, there will be enough bad games already greenlit that people will avoid anything with the Greenlight tag on it. It'll be like Xbox indie games, except with a moronically brutal certification process.
People avoid the online stores that have a high saturation of unprofessional, bad content. Such as XBLIG (or heck, Desura.)There are bad games released on every relevant platform in every different form each week.
People avoid the online stores that have a high saturation of unprofessional, bad content. Such as XBLIG (or heck, Desura.)
People avoid the online stores that have a high saturation of unprofessional, bad content. Such as XBLIG (or heck, Desura.)
The Apple Store is an exclusive marketplace on an extremely popular series of devices with many, many great games mixed in with the bad. Someone may get miffed at buying a bad Gameloft title, but they'll keep using it because it has games like Angry Birds. And even then there are various websites that make a living off of finding the cream of the very large crop and many devs rely on those websites for exposure.And the Apple Store too, right?
If you know nothing about a particular game other than it has a tag from a certification system that published games that have you have a history of disliking or hearing that they're terrible, you're likely going to have a negative bias towards it.A greenlight tag on the storefront is not going to dissuade anyone from judging the game on its own merits.
Bingo. If there were requirements for quality, or requirements for having a demo, or requirements for having your game ready to be tested before it is greenlit, then there would be more information for people to judge from, plus finished/proven/testable games would have a higher chance of getting through.It would be pretty cynical to say that what has come out is the simple result of stupid people with a bad taste in videogames. No, what has come out is the result of the idea that the certification process can be replaced with a large group of people hitting a button after looking at five select snapshots and maybe a youtube video.
When that's all a dev provides them with, what else are they suppose to do?It would be pretty cynical to say that what has come out is the simple result of stupid people with a bad taste in videogames. No, what has come out is the result of the idea that the certification process can be replaced with a large group of people hitting a button after looking at five select snapshots and maybe a youtube video.
It would be pretty cynical to say that what has come out is the simple result of stupid people with a bad taste in videogames. No, what has come out is the result of the idea that the certification process can be replaced with a large group of people hitting a button after looking at five select snapshots and maybe a youtube video.
That's about what people have to work with on Steam if they're trying to buy the game, too. There's no less information on a game's Greenlight page than there is on a game's store page.It would be pretty cynical to say that what has come out is the simple result of stupid people with a bad taste in videogames. No, what has come out is the result of the idea that the certification process can be replaced with a large group of people hitting a button after looking at five select snapshots and maybe a youtube video.
I don't even bother to look at Greenlight anymore. Games like Pinball Arcade shouldn't have to go through the process. It's on 5(if not more) major platforms already and it seems like a slap in the face to Farsight for them to have to go through Greenlight. I'm sure Farsight isn't the only dev in this position.
What is preventing you guys from making a demo?
Audiosurf's demo had an incredibly simple work around to play it unlimited times and that didn't stop the sales from being insane for an indie. Being hard-headed about this isn't going to sell copies.
I'm glad you are at least making an effort with them.
Except that certifying and buying a game are two different things. Hint: One of them should be a job.That's about what people have to work with on Steam if they're trying to buy the game, too. There's no less information on a game's Greenlight page than there is on a game's store page.
Except that certifying and buying a game are two different things. Hint: One of them should be a job.
They're not done updating yet. The number is still changing.I need the list in gaf format plz.
New Steam Greenlight Games
Blackspace
Darkfall Unholy Wars
Dawn of Fantasy
Dragon's Lair
Euro Truck Simulator 2
Gear Up
Kinetic Void - Space Adventure
The Light
No Time To Explain
Primordia
Sang-Froid : Tales of Werewolves
StarForge
Waking Mars
First Steam Greenlight Software Titles
Action! Screen Recorder
Bandicam: Game Recorder
Construct 2
Display Fusion
HitFilm 2
You Need A Budget 4
This is probably the most "....what is that ?" greenlight list for me so far ... very few reignized names.
Insteresting to see Construct 2 in the software !
I hope it has achivements xD