Nah.....it's 2016. Until media outside gaming goes above 1080p I have no reason to spend a ton of money upgrading my monitor and computer for a minimal experience increase
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Nah.....it's 2016. Until media outside gaming goes above 1080p I have no reason to spend a ton of money upgrading my monitor and computer for a minimal experience increase
Don't need to upgrade your monitor to enjoy visual increases past 1080p.
There are relatively cheap monitors that are above 1080p though, don't need to spring for the premium monitor industry that seems to be exploding right now.
johancruijff
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football manager you wonderful bastard, i'll pick you up again someday
those people will probably move to ps5 and xbox two
MulderYuffie
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PC gaming is soooooo dead lol.
No thanks, not into down scaling( whatever it's called......its not down scaling). I enjoy my 1080p fully maxed games perfectly fine. Hell according to steam stats most don't even hit that.
I made a quick graph to see how growth has been evolving.
Why is this months from _____ rather than just dates along the bottom?
(Actually curious to the significance of 2012)
Believe me, Wii users aren't playing Pc, most likely they moved to Kinect and now Mobile /Tablet.
Family console, people that clearly dont care about Steam or Core gaming.
As I said the real threat is mobile, it shows on 3DS and Vita sales.
Abilidebob
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There's also this to consider.
PC gaming is healthy and well.
PC gaming is healthy and well.
There's also this to consider.
PC gaming is healthy and well.
Always good to remind people of this, the PC audience is so diverse and spread out. Steam just presents one of the larger aggregate audiences and one of the most open-ended systems (Steamdb, concurrent user counts, SteamSpy) that we can look into.
What about games where you are only using 20 or 30 percent of your GPU usage and would like to measurably increase image quality?
Anecdotal discussions are completely pointless.
Same.
Most of my buddies who own consoles are into LoL as well.
I tried getting into DOTA recently though, but god damn that game is hard to be good at, lol
Need to git gud.
Abilidebob
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Try this https://www.dotabuff.com/learn/lol to see some heroes that you could enjoy.
Also this guide https://purgegamers.true.io/g/dota-2-guide/
The game is immensely rewarding after you understand what's happening with it.
AstroNut325
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The hardware survey isn't loading for me. Anyone else getting the same issue?
Boombox On
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Because OP lists numbers from Jan 2012.
Doesn't bother me.....I only play mmorpgs and when I do play other games I end up fiddling with the settings to much where I'm tinkering with a game more than......just playing it like I'm supposed to. Resokution, visuals have no effect......I don't go crazy and call ok looking games the ugliest thing of all time. I own all 3 consoles as well, image quality.....I could give two shits about it most of the time as long as it looks halfway decent. I don't need to push my PC to its limits to feel like I'm not getting the most out of it.
Probably would have been better just to lead with that information so we don't have a pointless discussion that ends in a difference of opinion no matter what we say.
Hahaha.....I'll upgrade eventually. If I were to jump to another monitor what would it be? I love my IPS panel way to much to move on unless.....it's another IPS panel.
Cheers! These resources are much appreciated.
I'm trying to get into MOBAs because I'm the only one in my group of friends that hasn't really played one yet.
+1
Agreed.
The modern alternative are these VA panels which are under the IPS family, but actually have very good display lag.
These high-end monitors are going from like 10-15ms of lag in previous IPS panels to 2-3 ms of total lag. For reference, TVs generally have between 20-40ms of total lag, then add in the additional lag associated with 30 FPS typically associated with console games.
If you are truly fine with 1080p, then I would suggest waiting until OLED or 4K becomes more prevalent and cheaper.
Did someone think it would?
My GTX 780 (released early 2013; I have it since 2014 I believe) still plays everything I own at maximum setting, tho looking at my list, I guess my most demanding game is Dark Souls 2: Scholar of the First Sin.
Edit: Oh, wait, nevermind, I own Witcher 3, which I suppose it is more demanding than DS2, and I run it at max everything and never had a problem. And when I say max everything is without third party softwares; at 1080p. I'm just used at this point to get into options, get everything on Ultra and just play. Still waiting for the game that will break me.
Edit: Oh, wait, nevermind, I own Witcher 3, which I suppose it is more demanding than DS2, and I run it at max everything and never had a problem. And when I say max everything is without third party softwares; at 1080p. I'm just used at this point to get into options, get everything on Ultra and just play. Still waiting for the game that will break me.
The vita sold me on oled displays .....absolutely beautiful.
My ips panel overal display though 9ms from the time of any action to display. Its still number 2 I think on displaylags list until these new displays. The MX279h
Imp the Dimp
Member
There's also this to consider.
PC gaming is healthy and well.
Passive aggressive smiley faces make his tweets seem so douchey rofl.
Was that advertised by them?
They only advertise g2g, and not processing time which can add a lot of lag. If you look at that site I linked, many of those IPS monitors are in the 15-25 range after adding in image processing.
And you're perfectly right. Playing anything above 1080p would require to upgrade almost everything (ram, GPU and probably CPU too) and you're not guaranteed to obtain stable fps on AAA recent games. You'd probably need to buy a G-sync panel too, wich is even more expansive. Staying on 1080p is perfectly fine nowaday, we'll discuss it further when the next generation of GPU hit the stores.
Well, yeah, I meant, why not Jan 2012, Jan 2013, Jan 2014, Jan 2015, Jan 2016 as the horizontal axis markings.
OCD firing up, etc.
No display lag has my monitor at 9ms
That's from me hitting a button to what you see coming out. That's after all processing
Tft is uk.....you would have to find the equivalent model to your country.
Either way.....I have my eyes on that one you linked earlier
Stilton Disco
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Fantastic numbers! Between this, the phenomenal success of the PS4, and mobile making games more mainstream than ever, this is truly a new golden age for gaming.
ashecitism
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Soon?
This year is a good bet at least. Still wouldn't mind if they canned it though.
Boombox On
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Can't wait to see who falls for this one.
More like cause it was free on ps4.
Are you from 2010. I game at 1440p on a LAPTOP... sometimes at 4k with games like Zestiria and Guilty Gear Xrd and still get 60fps.
I see a lot of people here getting a bit too excited about the rising numbers. I don't really think it is indicative of the PC market gaining in leaps and bounds. I think it is more that it has become like Wal-Mart in a small town. Sure, you could go somewhere else in town for an item, but all likelihood you will go to Wal-Mart for most of your shopping needs since it contains most of the things you need/want. I think this is mostly a sign of further consolidation in the PC market.
Good. Nice to see the best online gaming platform doing better each day. More and more people are realizing how insulting it is that Sony and Microsoft charge for their garbage restricted and barebones P2P counterparts I guess.
Now if we add the Lol and Blizzard playerbase we have the biggest, most consistent and relevant communities in online gaming ever. PC is dead confirmed!
Now if we add the Lol and Blizzard playerbase we have the biggest, most consistent and relevant communities in online gaming ever. PC is dead confirmed!
Witcher 3 sold more than half of its copies on PC via GoG so I guess you're wrong?
Same with the numbers for LoL, blizzard games or other things which isn't on steam.
It's not like some dude was noDRM only all of the sudden decides to fuck all that let's go steam because they have my stuff.
Also browsergames. So many play browsergames and spent a ton of money there.
Felix Lighter
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Steam, the walmart of gaming, 11 million netbooks playing Dota as PC gaming gasps for life.
Possumowner
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Turin Turambar
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Passive aggressive? Dude you are projecting.
I understood as him showing how big is pc gaming (even more than people believe!) that causes him to be happy.