It's also something you can rebound back into so easily. For an obese person the only solution is a drastic change in lifestyle, which is basically destroying the norm and rebuilding it.It's one of the easiest things to change about yourself.
It's also something you can rebound back into so easily. For an obese person the only solution is a drastic change in lifestyle, which is basically destroying the norm and rebuilding it.It's one of the easiest things to change about yourself.
Some of the wording in the articles makes me think these statistics deal with all obese, not just those attempting to lose weight.
eating once per day? thats not healthy at all
It is what the article implies
There isn't a magical way to become skinny and fit again. You have to work at it and get the help you need if you can't handle the mental stress yourself.Just because roadblocks are mental doesn't mean they aren't real.
There's a difference between accepting obese people and accepting the obesity epidemic.
Shaming individuals for their weight seems extremely misguided to me.
Besides, it's pretty clear that societal factors are causing a preponderance of obesity, not a sudden onset of laziness in the entire populations of dozens of countries.
But what percentage of obese people give an honest effort to lose the weight? Most people I've seen try some stupid diet for a week and then go back to eating shitty foods, or work out once or twice and give up when they don't see instant results. The percentage is so low because at least from what I've seen most obese people don't have the will or desire to lose their weight.
Curious to know if the data set focused on people who attempted to lose weight.
The article is unclear if it's just a sample of obese and morbidly obese people, or a subset of that sample who have weight loss as an active goal.
I don't think there's ever been an argument that an obese person maintaining status quo would necessarily result in a good chance for becoming not-obese.
It's one of the easiest things to change about yourself.
Am I, or anyone else for that matter, supposed to care?
At a less than 1% sucess rate your method is pretty much confirmed garbage at doing anything more than giving you a false sense of superiority for doing it.
It's not too tough
Never give up.
Also it's gonna be easier to lose the weight when you're younger.
Whenever the weight issue comes up, overweight GAF always seems to be like that comic with the punchline "that's totally why I don't have a girlfriend".
Why?
Thanks for comparing your admittedly anecdotal experiences to an actual scientific study. That's helpful.But what percentage of obese people give an honest effort to lose the weight? Most people I've seen try some stupid diet for a week and then go back to eating shitty foods, or work out once or twice and give up when they don't see instant results. The percentage is so low because at least from what I've seen most obese people don't have the will or desire to lose their weight.
I know that it takes hard work and I'm not arguing that. But this is an area in which broad societal changes will be far more effective than standing on a mountaintop and belittling people for their supposed lack of willpower.At the same time I realize I sound like one of those bootstraps people so self reflection is probably in order.
Sorry that the facts don't fit your preexisting simplistic worldview.Hate studies like this.
Curious to know if the data set focused on people who attempted to lose weight.
The article is unclear if it's just a sample of obese and morbidly obese people, or a subset of that sample who have weight loss as an active goal.
I don't think there's ever been an argument that an obese person maintaining status quo would necessarily result in a good chance for becoming not-obese.
Lets all laugh at fat people guys.
Am I, or anyone else for that matter, supposed to care?
At a less than 1% sucess rate your method is pretty much confirmed garbage at doing anything more than giving you a false sense of superiority for doing it.
I am sure your experience is 100% representative for the 99% of people who don't manage it.
Obviously they are just lazy and incompetent compared to you.
So easy 1% of people manage to do it!
I don't need empathy, I need a better plan. I have lost a lot of weight but gained it back. I need more focus. but thats just me.
It's one of the easiest things to change about yourself.
....bububu fat shamer gaf told me that all those lazy fat people need to do is eat less.
Easy peasy!
Why?
Maybe if we had good health education instead of the fucking food pyramid, people would know how to lose weight. I didn't know about calories until 2014.
Sorry that the facts don't fit your preexisting simplistic worldview.
No one ever said it was easy. Simple, usually. Easy, never.
When I lost weight I went on a strict caloric deficient diet for two months and lost around 30 pounds. Relatively speaking that wasn't too hard. I was miserable, but it was the following two years and now that are a struggle as I try to lose more weight, let alone maintain the weight loss.
If I'm reading it right this study is very misleading. It's saying that given 210 obese people, 1 will lose weight. So in other words, this includes people not trying to lose weight.
It says nothing about the difficulty. If someone can link the full study and prove me wrong please do, but according to their own school press that seems to be what they are saying.
The study also does not take into account those who put the weight back on, which is the vast majority.If I'm reading it right this study is very misleading. It's saying that given 210 obese people, 1 will lose weight. So in other words, this includes people not trying to lose weight.
It says nothing about the difficulty. If someone can link the full study and prove me wrong please do, but according to their own school press that seems to be what they are saying.
That's not really misleading. Its a health problem with supposedly the simplest possible solution ever. The fact that only 1% of people manage to deal with it is a problem.If I'm reading it right this study is very misleading. It's saying that given 210 obese people, 1 will lose weight. So in other words, this includes people not trying to lose weight.
This, followed by this:When I lost weight I went on a strict caloric deficient diet for two months and lost around 30 pounds. Relatively speaking that wasn't too hard.
I dunno man. Sounds hard to me.I was miserable, but it was the following two years and now that are a struggle as I try to lose more weight, let alone maintain the weight loss.
Yeah, I'm surprised to see this here on GAF.
That suggests that the best approach would be gradual weight loss instead of a crash diet like so many people try. You get someone down to where they've got a stable weight and then cut out 100 calories a day.
I agree that prevention would be much better.
Are you really? I'd say a lack of empathy is one of the defining characteristics of people here.
That sure sounds hopeless.
"We can't fix it, just prevent it"
I knew what a calorie was, I just didn't know that it was pretty much solely responsible for weight loss. I didn't know weight loss was so simple.Uh, that one's on you my friend. Calories ain't a big secret.
I agree with the overall sentiment though, health education should be revamped and given priority. Once I realized how simple eating right actually is loosing weight wasn't hard.
That's pretty much all you need to do, the study doesn't refute that.
Most people who end up being obese start off on that path during childhood, and a lot of them dont even make it to adolescence before being obese.
But yeah, its def those kids fault entirely. Sorry fatass, your own damn fault, enjoy the death at 50!
Yeah, I'm surprised to see this here on GAF.
If I'm reading it right this study is very misleading. It's saying that given 210 obese people, 1 will lose weight. So in other words, this includes people not trying to lose weight.
It says nothing about the difficulty. If someone can link the full study and prove me wrong please do, but according to their own school press that seems to be what they are saying.