Chet Rippo
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I'll be severely disappointed if it doesn't look like that manga adaptation...
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Summer 2012 Anime |OT| Goddesses, canines, and killer MMOs!
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The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya
Wow.
I really don't think any words I come up with now will do justice to this film. I think... Even if I didn't enjoy the two seasons of the Haruhi TV show, I would still have loved this to death. This film is basically everything good and right about the franchise condensed in a perfect little package. Almost three hours... But, honestly, I really wouldn't have minded if it lasted ten hours. Maybe my bowels would, but I sure as hell wouldn't.
So... The story is basically about Kyon coming to terms with his
and realizing that Yuki
In the end, everything
And the events that led everything to this point were delicious to watch. You can feel the tension, the suffering, the doubts... And then,
The film didn't change the way I view any of the characters.
In short: Kyon is the luckiest 2D guy ever.
10/10. I don't even give a shit. And I'll punch anyone who skips
in the credits.
Wow.
I really don't think any words I come up with now will do justice to this film. I think... Even if I didn't enjoy the two seasons of the Haruhi TV show, I would still have loved this to death. This film is basically everything good and right about the franchise condensed in a perfect little package. Almost three hours... But, honestly, I really wouldn't have minded if it lasted ten hours. Maybe my bowels would, but I sure as hell wouldn't.
So... The story is basically about Kyon coming to terms with his
rose-colored life
DESERVES SOME GODDAMN ATTENTION.
seems mostly the same... But that's not true at all, considering how we see this world through Kyon's perspective - which, well, turned 180º.
when you think you've got it all figured out, comes Asakura and freaking stabs you in the back.
The film didn't change the way I view any of the characters.
What it did was reinforce my feelings towards them. Nagato's just... Oh my heart. The interactions between her "faulty" version and Kyon were some of the most bittersweet moments in the history of anything I've ever watched. The scene in which he hands her back the Literature Club registration form was absolutely _________ (fill the gap - I have no words). And then, when Kyon's back to the regular world, Koizumi tells him to look down, and he sees her. Fuck the haters, man... Haruhi, man.
10/10. I don't even give a shit. And I'll punch anyone who skips
Yuki's singing
cosmicblizzard
Banned
Well I was mostly just trolling. I have very little knowledge about direction in general. That's why I always focus on art and writing in my posts rather than that. And I mean I praise stuff that people here say has shit direction, so yeah...
I guess if I was to voice a completely subjective complaint, it's the stories he adapts, but the only 2 I've seen in full are TGTLTT and One Piece movie 6, the latter of which I liked (albeit not to the same extent as other OP movies like 4 and 10).
It's a comedy about economics. If anything, I would call that art style jarring for the genre.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Asuza is dead?
I want to believe in the writer! lol
Polar Bear Cafe is a year long show? Well, I guess I'm not going to complain, but that's surprising. I can see how the show could be mainstream anyway... adult characters, very little anime bullshit... it's something the whole family could watch without the embarrassed/apologetic looks.
And that's great that the stuff is all settled anyway.
Razgriz-Specter
Member
Yeah really loved the movie.
chickdigger802
Banned
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Probably the only ranking that matters.
Kara No Kyoukai 05: Paradox Spiral
I don't have much to say about the fourth film other than the fact that 2 and 4 could easily be condensed into a single film since there's really only a few plot points required, imo. I liked 4 a little more than 2 in terms of setting up Shiki's story. It's also slightly shorter so that sort of helps in a way. So basically duckroll was right. 1,3, and 5 honestly do make for a good trilogy on their own.
Anyways onto KnK 5:
Wow.
It's been a while since an anime has blown my mind like that.
This film feels like it's on such a different level than the previous four in terms of structure, length, presentation, and direction. The non-linear narrative was an interesting and unexpected choice for the fifth film. At first it's a bit jarring and slightly overwhelming with how much is presented in the beginning. The use of repeated scenes, seemingly random shots that provide clues to an upcoming scene, and out of sequence shots to try to mess with your head. People may have a problem with the story direction and the use of repeated scenes, but I honestly loved their usage here.
What's crazy about all that is how well it's all implemented. It's a lot to take in at first but the film doesn't leave the viewer completely lost by the end. It's still one of those movies where you gotta pay attention to and follow the details it hands you.
With all that said, it's still an impressive looking film just like the rest of the previous ones in the series. The action scenes were really well animated and awesomely choreographed. While the fights in 1 and 3 weren't the best that ufotable has to offer, the fifth film more than makes up for that with some great fight scenes though the last one had some rather dizzying camera work. I liked that Touko had some time to shine in this film as well. We see not only her true abilities in full force but also an insight to her past life and her relationship with the pair of antagonists. The antagonists were also a bit of a departure from the previous ones as they were more fitting of the "villain" archetype than the more sympathetic antagonists of films 1 and 3.
If I had to have a complaint about the film, it's probably Kokuto. Not even because his character is annoying in general (though he's not as bad here), it's just his scenes kinda drag on towards the middle of the film. Though with such a strong start, one could probably take the middle of the film as a bit of a breather before the story picks up its pace again towards the end. The story doesn't really center on Shiki as much in this film as it focuses instead on the new characterShirou's Tomoe's story and Touko's relationship with the antagonists. She's still very much an important character but it's interesting to see her take a backseat to the rest of the cast of characters for a good portion of the film.
Ones full enjoyment may also have to do with much Nasu-shit they can tolerate here. There's some jargon regarding origins and such that the expanded Type-Moon universe also dwells in. Thankfully on its own merits, it's a wonderfully structured film with very good production values. The visual and audio quality is just as good as the previous films though I didn't find the music in this one to be as memorable. I can't recommend this film enough especially to those who enjoyed Fate/Zero let alone those interested in the Type-Moon universe. Great film except now I've come to a bit of a predicament-
I have absolutely no desire to watch the rest of the films now!
It's a bit obvious that the last few films won't live up to this one but eventually I'll get to them. Also, not gonna lie. Shiki is moe as fuck in that last scene.
I don't have much to say about the fourth film other than the fact that 2 and 4 could easily be condensed into a single film since there's really only a few plot points required, imo. I liked 4 a little more than 2 in terms of setting up Shiki's story. It's also slightly shorter so that sort of helps in a way. So basically duckroll was right. 1,3, and 5 honestly do make for a good trilogy on their own.
Anyways onto KnK 5:
Wow.
It's been a while since an anime has blown my mind like that.
This film feels like it's on such a different level than the previous four in terms of structure, length, presentation, and direction. The non-linear narrative was an interesting and unexpected choice for the fifth film. At first it's a bit jarring and slightly overwhelming with how much is presented in the beginning. The use of repeated scenes, seemingly random shots that provide clues to an upcoming scene, and out of sequence shots to try to mess with your head. People may have a problem with the story direction and the use of repeated scenes, but I honestly loved their usage here.
What's crazy about all that is how well it's all implemented. It's a lot to take in at first but the film doesn't leave the viewer completely lost by the end. It's still one of those movies where you gotta pay attention to and follow the details it hands you.
With all that said, it's still an impressive looking film just like the rest of the previous ones in the series. The action scenes were really well animated and awesomely choreographed. While the fights in 1 and 3 weren't the best that ufotable has to offer, the fifth film more than makes up for that with some great fight scenes though the last one had some rather dizzying camera work. I liked that Touko had some time to shine in this film as well. We see not only her true abilities in full force but also an insight to her past life and her relationship with the pair of antagonists. The antagonists were also a bit of a departure from the previous ones as they were more fitting of the "villain" archetype than the more sympathetic antagonists of films 1 and 3.
If I had to have a complaint about the film, it's probably Kokuto. Not even because his character is annoying in general (though he's not as bad here), it's just his scenes kinda drag on towards the middle of the film. Though with such a strong start, one could probably take the middle of the film as a bit of a breather before the story picks up its pace again towards the end. The story doesn't really center on Shiki as much in this film as it focuses instead on the new character
Ones full enjoyment may also have to do with much Nasu-shit they can tolerate here. There's some jargon regarding origins and such that the expanded Type-Moon universe also dwells in. Thankfully on its own merits, it's a wonderfully structured film with very good production values. The visual and audio quality is just as good as the previous films though I didn't find the music in this one to be as memorable. I can't recommend this film enough especially to those who enjoyed Fate/Zero let alone those interested in the Type-Moon universe. Great film except now I've come to a bit of a predicament-
I have absolutely no desire to watch the rest of the films now!
It's a bit obvious that the last few films won't live up to this one but eventually I'll get to them. Also, not gonna lie. Shiki is moe as fuck in that last scene.
cosmicblizzard
Banned
Whelp, since everyone else is doing it
Shows I finished/will continue to watch
Tsuritama
Space Bros
Saint Seiya Omega
Zetman
Medaka Box
Accel World
Sankarea
Dusk Maiden of Amnesia
Phi Brain s2
Kore wa Zombie desu ka of the dead
Upotte
Nyaruko
Shiba Inuko-san
Shows I might watch at some point
Eureka Seven Ao
AKB0048
Sengoku Collection
Shows I dropped
Jormungand
Lupin
Fate/Zero s2
Kids on the Slope
Naruto SD
Shows I finished/will continue to watch
Tsuritama
Space Bros
Saint Seiya Omega
Zetman
Medaka Box
Accel World
Sankarea
Dusk Maiden of Amnesia
Phi Brain s2
Kore wa Zombie desu ka of the dead
Upotte
Nyaruko
Shiba Inuko-san
Shows I might watch at some point
Eureka Seven Ao
AKB0048
Sengoku Collection
Shows I dropped
Jormungand
Lupin
Fate/Zero s2
Kids on the Slope
Naruto SD
chickdigger802
Banned
any announcement of the length of akb yet?
It's one the points I enjoyed most about this OVA though. That and the part where she bitches about Mikiya as she stabs her pillow.
Shiki = <3
Chet Rippo
Member
This cannot end well.
Why not watch Summer Wars? You'd probably like it.
hosannainexcelsis
Member
The length hasn't been definitively stated anywhere officially, but if you're airing on TV Tokyo on afternoons or weekend mornings, you're a kid/family-oriented show that'll probably last a long time.
Speaking of this show, has its reliance on Japanese puns decreased since the first episode? I wanted to like it and it has its charming bits, but the amount of wordplay that doesn't come off for me put me off.
It's called Kingdom, it is known.
but Sengoku Collection isn't even that bad
A cursory glance at ANN says it's set for 24 episodes but I can't find a source for it. :<
cosmicblizzard
Banned
I plan to, but I've been putting it off. Thanks for reminding me. I'll probably tackle it tomorrow.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
It pops up once in a while. I didn't really mind it, because they do the "free pass" thing of having a character call out the terrible puns. In fact, I would say that the show has balanced out fairly well and spread out the gags among the characters pretty nicely. Derpy Panda-kun is still derpy, but there's also lovesick Penguin-san to take the spotlight once in a while.
Hrm, well, I'm happy either way I suppose. lol
A Black Falcon
Member
I've never really looked up Apple tans. It is kind of annoying when there's no standard depictions at all, yeah. Makes it impossible to figure out what that OS-tan is supposed to look like. As for that link though... heh.BGBW said:
Eh, High School DxD's main difference is that the TV version wasn't very censored. This genre of ecchi-heavy harem action shows is a popular one, but they usually reserve most of the nudity for the DVD/BD releases. High School DxD didn't do that. Apart from that though it's not THAT far out of line for the genre. I mean, it doesn't match (the uncensored versions of) stuff like Manyuu Hikenchou...1stStrike said:
It was amusing how the MC was torn between jealousy and anger, at seeing that...1stStrike said:
The first couple of episodes are probably the most sexist of the series, but the sexism never entirely goes away, unfortunately. It really badly damages a series that otherwise might have been okay.Chet Rippo said:
"Be Mine, Hero"
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=39318647&postcount=16892
Summary: I find the idea of a series existing to actually justify a major, never-ending war awful. That basic concept is the biggest problem.
Both, really. Or rather, a combination of both factors -- the fact that the war is (or should be) morally indefensible without VERY good reasons is made worse by the fact that the only factors defending the war are extremely contrived, unrealistic situations. (And yes, I know this is manga/anime, so "unrealistic" shouldn't apply. But still, there should at least be some bare minimum level of believability, unless the series is a pure work of insanity, which I don't think this intends to be.haly said:
That's quite different, though. The main character in 1984 isn't one of the higher-ups running the wars and trying to justify it through whatever they use to justify their actions, it's a random nobody from the cogs of the machine, exploring exactly how it works. That's a very different situation from this one. Also, of course, in 1984, there's no suggestion that this system is actually good; recall the awful health and such of the people, they're suffering but just don't know any better.
I mean, yes, in stories worlds are often created to justify plots, but this is a very blatant effort at it. As I said, it's only the world setting that gives ANY justifications to this endless war. And even there, I'm sure that peaceful alternatives could be possible; as if trading alliances and such couldn't be formed in peacetime? I know she has excuses for why war is required, but I'm sure something could be worked out...
Also, some of her arguments are weak. In addition to the above, for instance,
she says that a lot of people would die of famine if the war ended... but that famine would be in the countries currently fighting the war, I'm pretty sure. Where, as she says, people are ALREADY dying of starvation and war. So the war ends, and people die... but they're already dying. Do you have any proof that the number dying would be higher if the war ended? She doesn't provide any, certainly. Hero's just too stupid to notice any flaws in her argument, because he's just a warrior, not a scholar.
Also, while there are some times when people have simply stood back and allowed famines to kill lots of people, there are other times when countries helped other ones that were starving... but of course the plot wouldn't work as well if any were willing to do that here, so naturally they aren't.
Also, while there are some times when people have simply stood back and allowed famines to kill lots of people, there are other times when countries helped other ones that were starving... but of course the plot wouldn't work as well if any were willing to do that here, so naturally they aren't.
I'm pretty sure the Demon Queen thinks she's right. She certainly acts that way. I don't know if she thinks she's moral, but there's no question she thinks she's doing the right thing, and that if all those other idiots would just listen to her everything would be better, etc.
Maybe I am, but I DO think that it's justifying a kind of war that shouldn't be justified --
I mean, an endless war like this one is one of the worst possible kinds of war. It's the kind you almost always see in horror stories like 1984, not things that present them in an approving tone like this thing.
I'm sure many of the villains are awful, but I'm not convinced that this is the only way, no.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=39318842&postcount=16897
First -- as I've said, I understand that due to the excuses given in the setting, what she's doing "isn't entirely wrong" from one perspective. But as I've said, I don't think that that's a good enough excuse, on moral grounds particularly, but also on plot grounds. I cover the former element above, and in the post in the last thread, but for the latter part, I just really dislike when things don't fully admit to the true morality of the story they're presenting. And despite the excuses the series tries to give, that really is a central element in "Be Mine, Hero", as I have said.Envelope said:
For an example that's quite a bit worse than this one, Saikano. I really, REALLY dislike how that ends, with the killer robot girl being affirmed as a "person" of sorts even though she
just killed every single human being on Earth except for one guy. Yes, I know that the war was endless and people had devolved into barbarism, murder, etc, but seriously, once society devolves enough, the war would simply end on its own accord because there wouldn't be enough people, or technology, left to fight it. But because she's a robot and not a person, she kills everything as a "solution"... and not only does the series not question her decision at all, as far as I remember, but it affirms her as a good "person" (which she isn't, either good or a person) in the end!
apocalypse/spoiler] story -- it's very well written and thought through. Better cast and art and everything else too, but anyway, that's an important part of it.
It's the difference between creating a setting for a story, and creating a setting that clearly exists to create one of the few justifications possible for the otherwise awful actions the protagonists are going to undertake...
hosannainexcelsis
Member
ANN's episode counts aren't reliable at all. It still says Space Brothers is 12 episodes even though more than that has already aired.
I don't know if self-awareness will be good enough to make it enjoyable for me, but thanks for the info.
Japanese sources indicate that Polar Bear Cafe is a 4 cour show.
Edit: Yeah, it was announced as a series planned for 4 cours. http://news.mynavi.jp/news/2012/03/14/001/
Edit: Yeah, it was announced as a series planned for 4 cours. http://news.mynavi.jp/news/2012/03/14/001/
we shall to continue suffer this tyranny of misinformation until ANN is finally brought down
yyeesssssssss
Dedication Through Light
Member
The concept is great but I think the art style ruins it, I dont think a near SD style could ever be used to tell a serious rpg type story.
And this is why I'm sort of fine with no season 3 of Haruhi. If we look at the entirety of the Haruhi anime, Disappearance is really its third act. The moment where the shit truly hits the fan and all hope is seemingly lost. And by the end, it's the moment where Kyon finally learns to appreciate the life he has with Haruhi and the gang. By the same token, it's also the moment where Kyon learns to stop bitching about everything surrounding Haruhi and a lot of the charm of the anime prior to Disappearance was Kyon bitching, so I'm thinking either a season 3 is not possible without some impediment on Kyon's established character development or they just do the rest of the light novels and play them off as stuff that happened pre-Disappearance.
Unknown Soldier
Member
I probably only crossed the 300 mark because I posted a bunch before Tera launched.
chickdigger802
Banned
my god.
Polar bear cafe.
space bros.
anime is saved!
How can they top the first OP though?
Unknown Soldier
Member
Do you like Azaka from her very limited appearances so far? If so, you'll enjoy 6. That movie is all about Azaka. Shiki is almost a side-character, which makes it a nice breather after the awesomeness of 5.
7 is a total letdown compared to 5, especially the ending. Shiki and Mikiya
do not fuck at the end.
There's also the Blu-ray epilogue, which can be thought of loosely as 8 but really isn't because it's just 20 minutes of Shiki and Mikiya engaging in exposition about stuff you probably don't care about. Shiki's origin (such as it is) is revealed in the epilogue. I can save you 20 minutes of your life you won't get back and just tell you that Shiki's origin is
emptiness.
Goddamit, you're making me want to watch these movies again.
Chet Rippo
Member
"Women are not allowed near the forge."
His assistant is a girl.
She's an elf, big difference. I guess. Also since she's his property or whatever, that makes it ok.
Obviously she'll be let go after she grows up a bit.
haha this sounds better with every further bit of info I find out
Dedication Through Light
Member
The two episodes so far have been pretty visually appealing and suspenseful. Although characters are oldish (prefer space stuff when characters are like ages they were in star ocean 4), I think they are pretty intriguing especially the crew. I can see the potential for good interactions and development among them. Explosions and battle choreography is nice as well as the music which gives the anime a retro feeling. The in universe technology, like the space map, is really intriguing and cool.
Sacred Blacksmith is infamous for three things--the terrible katana scene, its relentless devotion to the superiority of katanas over gaijin blades, and the rape.
didn't the author retcon the rape scene because the otaku's didn't like having their pure 2d waifu violated?
Of course, the rape got retconned out, but the relentless sexism never goes away.
Dusk Maiden of Amnesia above Space Brothers and MGX?!
I might have to give it a shot someday.
Anyway, it's Summer season time.
Will watch:
Moyashimon 2
Natsuyuki Rendezvous
Rinne no Lagrange S2
Sword Art Online
Will watch the first episode :
Binbougami ga
Horizon 2 (if I finish the first season)
Arcana Famiglia
Estetica (although it looks like the worst type of show, with its generic-VN character designs)
Aruvu Rezuru
Campione
Tanken Driland (like the art in the OP)
Oda Nobuna
Kingdom (yeah, haven't watched this yet, but it might be fun, in a "let's laugh at the awful CG" kind of way)
Muv-Luv (a friend is hyping it up, so I'll give it a shot although it looks like crap)
and maybe some other stuff people on AnimeGAF start liking.
It's been a while but yeah I think it got retconned as the bad dude just beating her up and then stripping her naked and then relentlessly not-raping her until she passed out.
I've only read the first half of Snowy Mountain Syndrome (a chapter in Light Novel 5)
which takes place almost immediately after the Hot Pot party you see at the end of Disappearance and Kyon was just as annoyed/ticked off as he was before, maybe a little bit less but certainly enough to make me question if I was truly reading from the perspective of post-Disappearance Kyon, which it most certainly was. I have to admit, I stopped reading the light novels at Snow Mountain Syndrome because Kyon didn't really come off as a someone who really learned to appreciate his new life.
Spring ratings
Fate/Zero S2
Tsuritama
Kids on the Slope
Space Brothers
Kuroko no Basket
Eureka Seven AO
Mysterious Girlfriend X
Hyouka
Accel World
AKB0048
Saint Seiya Omega
Zetman
Medaka Box
Sankarea (although I'm quite far behind on this one)
Ozma
Lupin
So I guess I'm still watching Accel World, Eureka, AKB0048, Hyouka. Saint Seiya Omega and Gundam AGE and HxH from the Fall 2011 season.
Fate/Zero S2
Tsuritama
Kids on the Slope
Space Brothers
Kuroko no Basket
Eureka Seven AO
Mysterious Girlfriend X
Hyouka
Accel World
AKB0048
Saint Seiya Omega
Zetman
Medaka Box
Sankarea (although I'm quite far behind on this one)
Ozma
Lupin
So I guess I'm still watching Accel World, Eureka, AKB0048, Hyouka. Saint Seiya Omega and Gundam AGE and HxH from the Fall 2011 season.
cosmicblizzard
Banned
Rozen Maiden 2
Well, that was definitely better than episode 1. Still not sure what to think of this series. It kind of reminds me of a more subdued Konjiki no Gash, which might not necessarily be a good thing. It feels like this series doesn't know if it wants to be action or not.
Also, Jun is a massive prick.
Well, that was definitely better than episode 1. Still not sure what to think of this series. It kind of reminds me of a more subdued Konjiki no Gash, which might not necessarily be a good thing. It feels like this series doesn't know if it wants to be action or not.
Also, Jun is a massive prick.
PdotMichael
Banned
so many animes...
I finished 3 animes, so I'm pretty low level
I finished 3 animes, so I'm pretty low level
Chet Rippo
Member
Is such a thing even possible?
chickdigger802
Banned
Ranking shit is lameos.
Spring stuff I liked
f/z
slope (sometimes)
smile precure
hxh
space bros
kuroko basket
MGX
ghost girl.
Polar bear cafe
acchi kocchi
ginga kickoff
kore zombies s2
nyaruko
Everything else were meh/boring.
Spring stuff I liked
f/z
slope (sometimes)
smile precure
hxh
space bros
kuroko basket
MGX
ghost girl.
Polar bear cafe
acchi kocchi
ginga kickoff
kore zombies s2
nyaruko
Everything else were meh/boring.
PdotMichael
Banned
I see a serious lack of Ginga e Kickoff on people's lists.
I dropped the show after the Ronaldo-sama accident.
You monster.
I see a serious lack of Ginga e Kickoff on people's lists.
I always keep forgetting about that show, but I've been wanting to check it out for some time now. Might as well fire up the first episode today.
A Black Falcon
Member
Luke actually does have a reason for why he acts as he does, as you'll find out once you get farther into the series
yes, tragic past incoming
As for Cecily, her biggest problem is that she always wants to get involved in fights and protect people, but she's near-useless in combat, particularly so in the anime; she's stronger in the manga, though still has to be saved quite a few times of course. At least it is actually a plot point in the series, her wanting to get stronger so she can actually live up to what she wants to be, but her attitude results in a LOT of sexism, as she keeps pretending she's competent when of course she isn't.
Yes, the series' sexism is pervasive and strong. Something making it even worse is that they made Cecily significantly more useless in the anime than she is in the manga version. Yes, she has to be rescued by Luke on a regular basis in the manga, but she's not a completely useless lump at the beginning, like she is in the manga. For instance, in the manga, in that version of the first episode or two
Cecily actually fights a whole bunch of bandits and handily defeats them all, before in the end Luke has to help her when a giant monster attacks. She can't beat strong enemies, of course, mostly because of her gender (and inexperience, but her gender's the key), but isn't completely useless. In the anime though, she's a weak, useless nothing for at least half of the series, maybe more, and it's incredibly sexist and intolerable.
Anyway though, the one and only reason why she's so weak and constantly has to be rescued is of course her gender. If she was a male character, there's absolutely no way in the world that this "actually really weak even though
She's not really an elf, more of a magical being... (I'll try to resist writing out the massive spoiler of what she really is...)
Sacred Blacksmigth and katanas -- Yes indeed, another problem with Sacred Blacksmith is the crazy degree of "Japan is the best ever" it's infected with, particularly with respect to how in this series the katana is the best weapon ever period, can cut through anything, is stronger and sharper than any other sword, etc. It's just crazy stuff, and certainly not accurate; they are good swords, but not THAT good.
As for "the rape scene"... well I'll go into that in the next part. (Just know that the scene in question does not occur in the anime. It does happen in the manga version, though, later on after the part the anime covers.)
Wait, was it different in the original story? Because in the manga, she is kidnapped by the villain, and mentally (and somewhat physically) tortured, but he doesn't actually rape her,
because he explains that he would, but he's incapable of doing such things. He is not a normal human, and with how angry he was it sounded true...
Regardless, it left her pretty badly mentally damaged. It takes a few chapters for her to begin to get over it. I did like how this part was somewhat realistically portrayed -- she didn't just get over it in a flash, or something, it hurt. You don't usually see that, with things like this in manga or anime. Not at all.
Was it really different in a previous version (it's an LN adaptation or something, I guess)? And I described his stated reasoning above.
The guy does it because he's evil, of course, but Cecily's usual uselessness doesn't help matters. If she could fight well, it wouldn't have happened, probably. But see "she's a girl, etc" above.
To be fair though, he does sucker-punch her after she said how much she trusts Luke, but it's not like she'd have won a fair fight either.
Anyway though, that part of the manga's quite serious and dark, for reasons beyond that scene too...
And on that note, one final bit of sexism that results from "the not-rape part" --
after getting assaulted, Cecily, as I said, shuts down, and has a lot of trouble coping with what happened. That's good, that's the reaction you should get, but usually wouldn't see in manga. However, her solution is to "discard her womanhood". She even dresses in pants to a ball, and challenges the villain! Of course, she has no chance, and gets rescued again by Luke, who fights for her. It ends with a slgihtly romantic moment between the two of them, and she thinks that she might not be able to abandon her womanhood after all. Yeah, very pervasive sexism and stereotyping there to say the least. It's not actually too badly written, just very sexist.
To start with, a quote from the last thread.
Wow. Never realised the english Gintama logo was so boring.
And now, using this list. What I think of each anime based of their blurbs.
Kingdom: I don't even need to read this blurb. Seen the terrible GCI. Pass.
Pokémon: Haven't watched this show seen the 2000 movie. Pass.
Muv-Luv: Toned down porn. Had enough of that with MGX.
Chouyaku Hyakunin Isshu: Seen the game, now find out about the poems. Might check out the first episode.
YuruYuri♪♪: I'll probably skip this.
Natsuyuki Rendezous: Eh. I could just watch Ghost for the billionth time.
Moyashimon Returns: Heard good things about the first series so I guess I should check that out first.
Sword Art Online: Original concept do not steal. THough that reminds me, I do need to finish TWEWY one day.
Koi to Senkyo to Chocolate: More toned down porn? Only the chocolate can save this.
Dakara Bok wa, H ga Dekinai: Guy can't fap: The Anime. Well he should end up as a very productive member of society then.
Dog Days': Sequel to a show I never watched. No point.
Horizon II: Watched about half of the first series and then just lost interest. No point.
Oda Nobuna no Yobou: Too many males in the plot. Cute warlord doing warlord things spoilt by the harem concept.
Bonbou-gami ga!: She can make people happy by absorbing their happiness and then giving it back. So we're back to square one then. Sounds totally pointless.
Hakuouki: "Prequel to..." pass it is then.
Ebiten: And let me guess, they all like Yaoi and want him to make love to another man in front of their eyes.
Tari Tari: What a long winded way of saying they are teenagers. Music club anime but with a USP of having an Australian. After School BBQ Time.
Kono Naka ni Hitori: Easy way around this problem. Just use the definition of mate that is "friend". Then you remove all fear of accidentally marrying your sister.
Campione!: That's sounds even more original that that Sword Art Online show.
Kokoro Connect: Nice to see some original art styles going on. Freaky Friday to the MAX.
Hagure Yuusha no Estetica: So a serious version of Girls Bravo?
Rinne no Lagrange 2: Second series of a show I haven't seen. No point yet again.
Joshiraku: I doubt behind the scene conversations are that exciting. "How's the weather?" "How's your father?" and so on.
La storia dela Arcana Famiglia: Doesn't sound Bodacious enough.
Jinrui wa Suitai Shuimashita: "I"? First Person Anime. Also if theese fairies don't want to save the world via the power of disco I will be severely disappointed.
Aruvu Rezuru: Turn off her computer and force her to go cold turkey for a week. Web addiction is no laughing matter.
Chitose Get You!!: NOPE.
Wow. Never realised the english Gintama logo was so boring.
Also do I spy a lack of a certain WB logo. Doesn't that ruin one of the best scenes?
And now, using this list. What I think of each anime based of their blurbs.
Kingdom: I don't even need to read this blurb. Seen the terrible GCI. Pass.
Pokémon: Haven't watched this show seen the 2000 movie. Pass.
Muv-Luv: Toned down porn. Had enough of that with MGX.
Chouyaku Hyakunin Isshu: Seen the game, now find out about the poems. Might check out the first episode.
YuruYuri♪♪: I'll probably skip this.
Natsuyuki Rendezous: Eh. I could just watch Ghost for the billionth time.
Moyashimon Returns: Heard good things about the first series so I guess I should check that out first.
Sword Art Online: Original concept do not steal. THough that reminds me, I do need to finish TWEWY one day.
Koi to Senkyo to Chocolate: More toned down porn? Only the chocolate can save this.
Dakara Bok wa, H ga Dekinai: Guy can't fap: The Anime. Well he should end up as a very productive member of society then.
Dog Days': Sequel to a show I never watched. No point.
Horizon II: Watched about half of the first series and then just lost interest. No point.
Oda Nobuna no Yobou: Too many males in the plot. Cute warlord doing warlord things spoilt by the harem concept.
Bonbou-gami ga!: She can make people happy by absorbing their happiness and then giving it back. So we're back to square one then. Sounds totally pointless.
Hakuouki: "Prequel to..." pass it is then.
Ebiten: And let me guess, they all like Yaoi and want him to make love to another man in front of their eyes.
Tari Tari: What a long winded way of saying they are teenagers. Music club anime but with a USP of having an Australian. After School BBQ Time.
Kono Naka ni Hitori: Easy way around this problem. Just use the definition of mate that is "friend". Then you remove all fear of accidentally marrying your sister.
Campione!: That's sounds even more original that that Sword Art Online show.
Kokoro Connect: Nice to see some original art styles going on. Freaky Friday to the MAX.
Hagure Yuusha no Estetica: So a serious version of Girls Bravo?
Rinne no Lagrange 2: Second series of a show I haven't seen. No point yet again.
Joshiraku: I doubt behind the scene conversations are that exciting. "How's the weather?" "How's your father?" and so on.
La storia dela Arcana Famiglia: Doesn't sound Bodacious enough.
Jinrui wa Suitai Shuimashita: "I"? First Person Anime. Also if theese fairies don't want to save the world via the power of disco I will be severely disappointed.
Aruvu Rezuru: Turn off her computer and force her to go cold turkey for a week. Web addiction is no laughing matter.
Chitose Get You!!: NOPE.
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