And if we remove all console games there would be zero console games.. And if we shaved our eyebrows off we would all look funny. What's with the shitty logic.
You know exactly why.
And if we remove all console games there would be zero console games.. And if we shaved our eyebrows off we would all look funny. What's with the shitty logic.
Fixed.League of Legends is a beast.
If you're a gamer and don't have (or are not saving for) a cheap laptop I don't know what the fuck you're doing with your life anymore.
Why do you think that is though?
My guess is that the console demographic isn't widening.
correct. the overall number of people playing on console is shrinking, but the $ spend is growing.
the casuals left and the hardcore base is concentrating
Today $99 early access games sell well. we have MTX and DLC as additional revenue driver
you can sell $149 controller. the tie ratio for consoles is growing. both Microsoft and Sony release new expensive console models instead of just a cheaper slim version
All that is driving revenue and $ spend.
What the console market lost? a cheap $249 / $99 Wii
Also funny how PC biggest market spend almost the least money on those games.
Hope Superdata releases this year's edition of this pic
And if we remove all console games there would be zero console games.. And if we shaved our eyebrows off we would all look funny. What's with the shitty logic.
It's rude and ignorant, glad someone stepped in so soon.I wonder if you guys actually saw the post he replied to ?
Doesnt that come off as rude ?
Is this for real? You can play half or more of the PC exclusive games on steam on a $200 Dell laptop. Anything else you can play on a console. Very few experiences require a "capable gaming PC".
Why do you think that is though?
My guess is that the console demographic isn't widening.
Lol. 500,000 split between both PS4 and Xbox one is a "foothold"?
https://zhugeex.com/2015/11/ps4-xb1-install-base-in-china-reaches-500000/
They're generally boring and require investment for the average player, hence fifa and cod popularity.
For the average Gaffer who is mainly interested in these experiences that is all that matters.
The Xbox 360 sold 1.6 million in Japan. What's the "foothold" that Microsoft has in Japan today?yep it is i think you just proved my point lol,nice quote from 2015 btw
09-16-2015
Dayum, Overwatch on PC alone is almost the same as this year's Call of Duty consoles' revenue. And I'm sure it cost way, waaay less than CoD.
because it does not get mentioned here enough:
console is digital pay2play games only.
so no ps+ or xbox live gold and no free2play console revenue (is not that big, but still a bit of the pie)
also no physical game sales and no hardware + accessories
here is an overall revenue breakdown estimate from newzoo
Yeah, I agree with this.
I think in a decade or two people will look back and think, "Hardware-exclusive gaming experiences? LOL!"
Man those numbers are bleak.
Console gaming looks doomed.
Going to be a lowest denominator free to play mobile future.
It makes me sad that large scale, retail experiences are such a small part of the industry now. I want more of these, not less.
Man those numbers are bleak.
Console gaming looks doomed.
Going to be a lowest denominator free to play mobile future.
Man those numbers are bleak.
Console gaming looks doomed.
Going to be a lowest denominator free to play mobile future.
Small? It's still a huge market just not very big digital yet, retail still dominant, remember those are Digital figures.
Do you even read before posting? Digital figures only lol but yeah Doomed OMG
Enjoying hassle free gaming from couch?
Booted up Rocket League no problem from my bed. What's the issue here?
What I keep trying to point out yet people keep hammering revenue revenue revenue is that digital is more important and mm ore profitable than retail. So while physical is the biggest revenue it's not the most profitable sector.
That is true, but people are reading those numbers wrong.
Ukie 2015 statement:
Digital Console and PC: 1224 (£m)
Mobile gaming: 664 (£m)
And UK has a pretty decent mobile adoption rate. Globally this might differ, as there are a lot of countries where nobody has a console at all.
But it is not like that pc or mobile are 10x bigger than console gaming. The graph isn't "fair" in that regard.
Jebus...that console number vs. mobile number is depressing as hell.
But what's truly shocking is even PC gaming is obliterating console gaming.
Can't be much profit for a lot of these console top 10s considering the advertising they get.
Small? It's still a huge market just not very big digital yet, retail still dominant, remember those are Digital figures.
Why is that depressing? That mobile number shouldnt be performing much better than console gaming?
These reports are sold at publishers and investors who are thinking "we are not making enough money! We need to get in on the it thing! What is the it thing? Oh my these fads are making much more money than we do, but we don't know anything about these fads, we must buy this report!".Yeah no sure we can trust these figures.
That VR figure especially looks way too high.
People are depressed about the thought of the core market being forgone for the new market of F2P and casual titles.
Remember in some ways, especially going forward where more and more F2P markets appear that it becomes a more risky market. Like I said the competition is just starting to heat up, but you can already see that many F2P titled exist in a winner take all ecosystem. There's one or two that make tons of money and the rest that merely exist somewhere on the fringes.
As long as there's money to be made in a market, things will be made. Everyone isn't simply going to switch everything to mobile yet because console still grows and makes money. They'll just grow and make more mobile games as well.
Microsoft lost its presence when it lost Japanese developer support that aint gonna happen anytime soon with ps4, to compare Microsoft losing support in japan to ps4 is asinine .theres nothing wrong with 2015 but my point being that was shortly after chinese launch its Apples to oranges to my quoteThe Xbox 360 sold 1.6 million in Japan. What's the "foothold" that Microsoft has in Japan today?
And what's wrong with a source from 2015? Did you check your own source at all?
Can someone explain why pc is so high? Does that include pc hardware sales such as gfx cards etc
And if we remove all console games there would be zero console games.. And if we shaved our eyebrows off we would all look funny. What's with the shitty logic.
I find it interesting that PC gamers spend so little cash on games outside of those areas. Like I said with PC having more or less 100% digital and consoles is like 20-30% and yet beat PC in revenue. If you wonder why PC often have to wait or get shitty ports of AAA this is probably the reason.
I find it interesting that PC gamers spend so little cash on games outside of those areas. Like I said with PC having more or less 100% digital and consoles is like 20-30% and yet beat PC in revenue. If you wonder why PC often have to wait or get shitty ports of AAA this is probably the reason.
No, again, that's because you are not correctly reading the data.
They are not "spending less cash" on retail titles; they are spending ballpark equal cash on more retail titles.
That is entirely different.
On digital downloads yes but real retail for PC is dead and on console digital is only third at most of sales.
Most AAA ports are not shitty. In fact they are often considered the definitive versions as the have a wider gammut of options, including better visuals, expanded framerate options etc. There's just often more work to be done to bring it to PC as well.
Most the time PC players simply have higher standards that need to be met in terms of system performance. For instance if the game runs like it does on a PS4 with better equipment, then people are going to call it a shit port. A lot of that is often user error or misunderstanding around the settings they are choosing and the performance cost it has. If you want to talk about that you should talk to Durante. He's made a point several times to thoroughly explain the fallacy of people complaining about PC ports when they just turn all the settings to ultra, don't get 60 fps and complain.
Or inversely that they need to make sure it runs on a wider variety of systems including low end systems. Often those people with computers near the minimum spec or even potentially under it get frustrated at the performance they get.
Certainly there are crappy ports, but I'd say that's largely not the case.
That changes nothing.
If you have an airport bookshop that only sells Tom Clancy / John Grisham / Michael Crichton / Steven King books, and you have a bricks and mortar bookshop selling an entire bookshops worth of books, and they both sell +/- 10% the same number of books in a year, you are saying that people spend less money on books from the bookshop, because the sales of Clancy / Grisham / Crichton / King are so much higher at the airport.