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I'm using my 5 Ghz frequency at the moment. No problems so far. Router upstairs/Switch downstairs.
Here the Switch is docked and located directly under the Wifi Router and only gets two bars. The iPhone 6 and 3DSXL both get 3 full bars. (Yes i know it is messy back there).
Here the Switch is un-docked and located directly under the Wifi Router resting on the dock, and gets 3 full bars but does occasionally drop down to 2. iPhone 6 and 3DSXL both get 3 full bars.
This is all the devices on my desk which is about 3.2m and a direct line of sight to the Wifi Router. The Switch 2 bars only, everything else is 3 bars.
Now on the dining room table, still line of sight but about 4.8m away. In the life of my network 50+ people must have sat in this very position and had 3 bars on their phones. The Switch manages just 1 bar, with the 3DS and the iPhone showing 3 bars as you would well expect.
This is the room directly behind the Wifi router, no line of sight, 1 single dry wall and only about 2.5m from Wifi router. Switch 1 bar only, 3DS and iPhone remain full at 3.
Finaly picture in the bathroom, two walls and about 5m away from Wifi Router. Switch stays at 1 bar, iPhone drops down to 1 bar also. 3DS jumps from 3 bars to 1 bar.
Hey guys,
It's a bit frustrating to keep seeing the "Hurr Durr it's your Wifi" posts when I think there are at least a few of us with very real issues with the wifi strength on the Switch being incredibly poor in comparison to our other devices.
I also think there are two issues being discussed in this thread, 1) The actual Wifi signal strength from the Switch to the router, and 2) The download speed for updates etc.
I will address point 1) first with images below. My network setup is a load balancing router which takes two DSL lines and has multiple devices connected through LAN wired and then the Airport Time Capsule for wireless devices which auto connects devices to 2.4ghz or 5ghz depending on their distance to the router (Protip almost everything connects to 5ghz). My network is fully capable of the latest A/C transfer speeds with my Macbook consistently being able to transfer data to my PC through Wifi at 38+ MB/S or around 305mbps. I've also scanned the apartment multiple times and there are no conflicting channels.
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So it is quite apparent that either a) my Switch has an underpowered Wifi chip and simply does not connect at the same strengths that we expect devices to connect at, or b) The software is reporting the signal strength incorrectly. Let's go back to the first docked picture though, there is literally no way you could get the Switch closer to the Wifi router than that in normal use to get 3 full bars!
The only saving grace is that even though the Switch drops down to 1 bar it does seem to at least keep that connection and I can browse the eShop even in the bathroom 8m and 2 walls away. No idea how fast it would download an update though, and this concerns me because at a hotel or resort you are not going to have the luxury of being so close to Wifi Routers to even have that 1 bar. I'll also end this segment by saying that out of around 5 Wifi networks my iPhone will pick up in my apartment, the Switch sees just 2 of them.
The number 2) discussion seems to be on download speed, now obviously signal strength has a huge impact on this, but i personally only have 55MBPS available for download, so that is about 6.8 MB/Sec which should be easily attainable even for a device only managing 1 bar. I think that the download speed issues are down to Nintendo server traffic, as they seem to be getting better...
All times (Japan Standard)
Test 1: Friday 11pm - Download: 1.1mbps
Test 2: Friday 11:30pm - Download: 1.3mbps
Test 2: Saturday 00:30pm - Download: 1.4mbps
^ And there and there abouts, it took me around 40 mins to download the Switch update last night at about 1.1mbps
Test 4: Saturday 1pm - Download: 7.8mbps
Test 4: Saturday Just now (8:30pm) - Download: 6.9mbps
Still a far cry from the available 55mbps BUT i am not actually in Japan (surrounding Asia area) and i do not know where the system is actually connecting too to measure the speed.
So there you have it, if any gaffers manage to speak with Nintendo support about this then please update us. The country i reside in has zero Nintendo support so if this isn't fixed via firmware update etc then my personal only recourse is to purchase a new Switch
Gimme a shout with any questions, hopefully this helps others.
You can't compare bars of one device against another. The different devices may have different thresholds for when they go from 3 > 2 > 1 bar. You need to actually be looking at the signal strength of each device.
Yeah, my signal is poor and the download speeds are bad.
Hey guys,
It's a bit frustrating to keep seeing the "Hurr Durr it's your Wifi" posts when I think there are at least a few of us with very real issues with the wifi strength on the Switch being incredibly poor in comparison to our other devices.
I also think there are two issues being discussed in this thread, 1) The actual Wifi signal strength from the Switch to the router, and 2) The download speed for updates etc.
I will address point 1) first with images below. My network setup is a load balancing router which takes two DSL lines and has multiple devices connected through LAN wired and then the Airport Time Capsule for wireless devices which auto connects devices to 2.4ghz or 5ghz depending on their distance to the router (Protip almost everything connects to 5ghz). My network is fully capable of the latest A/C transfer speeds with my Macbook consistently being able to transfer data to my PC through Wifi at 38+ MB/S or around 305mbps. I've also scanned the apartment multiple times and there are no conflicting channels.
Right Click > View Image to see full size or Open full album of pics on IMGUR
So it is quite apparent that either a) my Switch has an underpowered Wifi chip and simply does not connect at the same strengths that we expect devices to connect at, or b) The software is reporting the signal strength incorrectly. Let's go back to the first docked picture though, there is literally no way you could get the Switch closer to the Wifi router than that in normal use to get 3 full bars!
The only saving grace is that even though the Switch drops down to 1 bar it does seem to at least keep that connection and I can browse the eShop even in the bathroom 8m and 2 walls away. No idea how fast it would download an update though, and this concerns me because at a hotel or resort you are not going to have the luxury of being so close to Wifi Routers to even have that 1 bar. I'll also end this segment by saying that out of around 5 Wifi networks my iPhone will pick up in my apartment, the Switch sees just 2 of them.
The number 2) discussion seems to be on download speed, now obviously signal strength has a huge impact on this, but i personally only have 55MBPS available for download, so that is about 6.8 MB/Sec which should be easily attainable even for a device only managing 1 bar. I think that the download speed issues are down to Nintendo server traffic, as they seem to be getting better...
All times (Japan Standard)
Test 1: Friday 11pm - Download: 1.1mbps
Test 2: Friday 11:30pm - Download: 1.3mbps
Test 2: Saturday 00:30pm - Download: 1.4mbps
^ And there and there abouts, it took me around 40 mins to download the Switch update last night at about 1.1mbps
Test 4: Saturday 1pm - Download: 7.8mbps
Test 4: Saturday Just now (8:30pm) - Download: 6.9mbps
Still a far cry from the available 55mbps BUT i am not actually in Japan (surrounding Asia area) and i do not know where the system is actually connecting too to measure the speed.
So there you have it, if any gaffers manage to speak with Nintendo support about this then please update us. The country i reside in has zero Nintendo support so if this isn't fixed via firmware update etc then my personal only recourse is to purchase a new Switch
Gimme a shout with any questions, hopefully this helps others.
Which would be fair enough IF it wasn't ONLY the Switch that has this issue. I don't know what to tell you? Take any device that is in the general hands of the public and you will see that the bars match up quite nicely. The Switch is simply the odd one out and showing Wifi bars WAY outside the normal thresholds.
No device docked into a plastic sleeve situated less than 30 cm away from the Wifi router should have anything other than 3 bars at all times.
The same is to be said about being less than 5m away line of sight, no one at all, ever, would expect that to be 1 bar regardless of the threshold of reporting it.
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Gimme a shout with any questions, hopefully this helps others.
No problems here, downloaded the switch update, zelda update and all the neogeo games. Downloads were fast, connection never broke.
Wondering if OP and others have defective units? Or maybe very congested airwaves?
Spec wise it's pretty much on par with any modern high-end or upper mid-range phone. Technical specs are 802.11ac with 2x2 MIMO over 80 Hz bands with theoretical speeds up to 867Mb/s on 5GHz and 400Mb/s on 2.4GHz. Actual speeds will depend on antenna configuration and how good a signal is available to the user's wi-fi access point or router.
Wi-fi connectivity will depend heavily on the device's antenna design and whether any other components would compromise the ability of the antenna to get a good signal. Given that metal casings on phones like the HTC One can act as Faraday cages (ie they can block radio waves), the design and positioning of the antenna is extremely important if you want to get a good wi-fi connection. With how many devices use Broadcom wi-fi modules without issue, I'd assume HTC's antenna/case design is the more likely culprit there.
Regarding Switch, I seem to be getting a pretty good connection to a 5GHz network from a fairly mediocre access point on the far side of the house that many other devices have issues with. I haven't thoroughly tested it yet, but it seems good so far.
If people are having issues with any wi-fi connection (Switch or otherwise), I'd recommend the following:
- Use a wi-fi scanner app to see where the emptiest part of the spectrum is and manually set your wi-fi channel to that. Even if it's all pretty similar, manually set it to something. Some access points/routers have issues with switching channels too often in auto mode, and if nothing else by parking yourself in one channel you discourage other networks from using it.
- If your router/access point is running both 2.4GHz and 5GHz as a single SSID, try setting them to separate SSIDs (ie ssidname and ssidname_5ghz) and then connecting 5GHz devices to the 5GHz one. In theory running dual-band on a single SSID is supposed to work, but a lot of consumer routers and access points choke on it and you end up with much worse speed/reliability than two separate networks.
wait... neo geo games are that easy to buy? did you use an american cc? do you have to switch users to play them?
Nighthawk 7000 here too. If nothing else is in range set channels anyway it will help. Go highest channels for 2.4 and 5ghz since you have no competing signals. Stuff will be more reliable.Good to know as I have the 6400 (model down from the 7000 nighthawk) so I was concerned it was the router not playing nice with the Switch. Bought it literally a week ago.
My channels are on auto but there's literally no other Wifi in range so...
I'm from the uk, and the european eshop has the following NG games:
Neo Geo Shock Troopers
Neo Geo World Heroes Perfect
Neo Geo King of Fighters '98
Neo Geo Waku Waku 7
Neo Geo Metal Slug 3
So I didn't have to faff around changing regions or anything
I'm on 5ghz, the switch is inches from the router (nighthawk ac1900). The connection is fine I suppose, but I'm getting 8mpbs instead about 50mbps for download speeds. My tablet gets 40ish mbps 20 feet away and through walls. The Switch is the only device on the 5ghz channel.
Groovy2.4Ghz = better range, greater congestion
5Ghz = Less congestion, lower range
Configure smart. Configure, S-Mart.
Wireless extender via powerline adapter.For those of you on 5GHz, are you using a dual-band router? How do you get the Switch to stay on 5 GHz?
My Switch connects at 5GHz when I'm in the same room with the router, but as soon as I move to another room it switches to 2.4 GHz.
For those of you on 5GHz, are you using a dual-band router? How do you get the Switch to stay on 5 GHz?
My Switch connects at 5GHz when I'm in the same room with the router, but as soon as I move to another room it switches to 2.4 GHz.
Switch's download speeds are probably tested off of Nintendo's servers rather than a typical speedtest, so you might be seeing the actual download speed vs. best case theoretical.
I have a terrible connection when it's docked in my entertainment center, but pulling it out literally a foot away from it makes everything move super quick.
I need a new entertainment center.
Some routers implement "Smart Mode" where the 5 ghz and 2.4 ghz bands appear as one AP and it switches bands when it determines you are too far away for 5 ghz band to be reliable and it will automatically dump you onto 2.4 ghz.
Go in your router settings and disable this and force the router to present the 5 ghz and 2.4 ghz bands as 2 separate APs. Then set the Switch up so only the 5 ghz AP is configured. It will never look for the 2.4 ghz AP then and will stay on 5 ghz.